- kill all DNC staffers who aren't loyal to her

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/333555-report-slain-dnc-staffer-had-contact-with-wikileaks

Ouch!

Putting chest rials in the sky that was gonna turn the frogs gay

Give classified intelligence to Russia. Ooops Trump beat her to it.
Increase US military involvement in Syra. Oooops Trump beat her to it.

@Hauta

"discriminate against white men (mostly by supporting affirmative action)"

I think just hearing the phrase "affirmative action" was enough for half the nation to vote against her. I know I would.

Seriously? Is Jeff Kuta the only one with a beef against Hillary? Where is the rest of the fabric of America?

Whistleblowers are worth protecting.

@Zmaj, ... and that would be your right. Even I would prefer handling the remedy to discrimination a different way.

Jeff, I curious if you see any distinction between a whistleblower, a leaker, and a spy.

A different way? You mean like massive income redistribution?

So 100% estate / death tax; that way all the ill gotten gains of slavery can be redistributed (once - it can apply to everyone a single time, and only to people born before it was introduced). Then setup a system for giving equal opportunities to all citizens. Paid for by this estate tax. Shure we'd only be one life-time away from utopia, right?

A whistleblower is an insider. A leaker is a complicit outsider. A spy is an adversarial outsider.

You have a corrupt retarded traitor in your oval office that is a security risk to the whole world. Now we all need to become religious and start pray that we survive these 4 years.

The tax thing sounds like rich people problems. So is the worst of it the reverse discrimination?

Impeach the bastard!

@orathaic

"So 100% estate / death tax; that way all the ill gotten gains of slavery can be redistributed"

This reminded me of something I read recently. In the Ottoman Empire, "spahi" (knights) would receive land for their service. However, when a knight died, his land was confiscated and redistributed. It was the sultan's way of ensuring nobody became too powerful.

This is considered by today's historians to be one of the main reasons for the stagnation and decline of the Ottoman Empire, as it prevented almost any kind of major economic enterprise except those initiated the sultan (i.e. the government). Interesting, wouldn't you say?

*initiated by

@Zmaj, if the sultan kept the money for himself and did not create a class to support him, that is a fatal error. Say, how long did the Ottoman Empire last? A long time right?

The flip side is that he didn't have to raise taxes on anyone alive in order to finance new loyalties.

@Hauta

Yeah, 600 years or so. I see your point. But it was primarily supported by conquest. When that started failing, it couldn't sustain itself.

There's no telling what her real policy goals were. She said one thing, yet believed another. She admitted as much herself - politicians need "both a public and a private" position according to her. She is a chronic liar and I simply can't trust a word that comes out of her mouth. That's probably the biggest reason I didn't vote for her.

The "both a public and a private" position thing applies to every single politician out there. Hillary just got caught admitting it.

"The "both a public and a private" position thing applies to every single politician out there. Hillary just got caught admitting it."

That's why I dislike the vast majority of them.

Hillary Clinton did everything by the numbers. She must have made great sacrifices to distort her personality in order to be the person she thought people would like and trust. And she lost to someone who said whatever he felt like saying.

Politics are perceived as a comedy, but they have great potential for tragedies. I wish a new Shakespeare would appear in our age.

I hate affirmative action sooooo much. Makes it so much harder to get into better colleges in the states. Isn't there a stat that says affirmative actions basically forces Asians to get a higher SAT score by X amount of points in comparison to others? I just felt like during the election Hilary concentrated too much on racial issues. BEFORE all the shade comes flying at me, I do believe it is an important topic to discuss, but I also felt that she should have done a better job at spreading out her speeches.
@ Hauta why are you so horrid? lol You always make anyone who is slightly Right-Side oriented look like racist bigots.
The main reason why I didn't like her was that she has been in politics for too long. I'm not some dissenter that advocates for "Complete reset of political representatives", but I do believe that she has been in the game for so long that she probably does have some ulterior party motives (or favors to pay off/personal interests to pursue). IM NOT SAYING that Trump doesn't have these same flaws (lets face it he probably has a lot more flaws). I just feel that at-least we now have an idiot we can shake our heads in despair at, rather than someone who probably knows her way around so well, anything she does would have no footstep echoes.

There are a lot of far left SJW Marxists out there that want to censor free speech and any free of intellectual thought. They despise people who are religious and traditional or a centrist. It's sad, but there are a few people like that around here. Just ignore their click bait threads and let them ramble to themselves. It's better for everyone.

freedom*

I'm not going to suggest that Hillary is perfect, she, like all of us has human weaknesses. But she has a proven track record as a hard-working high achiever. I think for some, those I regard as ignorant mysoginists, simply being Hillary is too much, the idea that a woman could aspire to the presidency of the USA, and succeed, be a President of the USA.. those are concepts that threaten these clowns so much that they will fight, lie, spread false rumour and offensive innuendo, do anything to prevent her succeeding. Unfortunately for them, but most fortuitously for humanity, these ideas are unleashed..and millions of young women inspired to be ambitious. Hillary won't be President, but I'll bet there are young women already working towards fulfilling that destiny..there will be a woman who will be President.
I can think of one woman already who would make a better President than that Turniphead Trump.. Oprah. Get your minds around that idea. Not only will a woman be President one day, she may well not be a "Barbie doll" blonde with blue eyes.

Hell no I need my barbie dolls. I grew up with barbie and ken. You can't take away my dream White House ( cause they are white get it hehehe) I'm used to putting barbie and ken and ken and ken and ken and ken and ken together.

That's a cool story MajorMitchell, anyway, come back to reality. Most people voted for Trump because he had a hopeful and optimistic message about economic prosperity. She just wasn't a good candidate. Sorry. Now, as to your other points, of course! Hopefully America has a female president one day.. but she may not be a SJW Leftist Marxist! Hopefully she will be a Conservative and Traditionalist like Sarah Palin.

@Zmaj, yes thats very interesting, i guess that land continued to br owned by the state (the Sultan) but was granted on a life-time lease to the soldiers.

The up-side is you can re-use the land every generation to assemble more soldiers, and conquer more... The downside, well as you mentioned.

The difference with what i proposed is that it is a once off thing. Anyone born after this 'policy' was introduced would get an 'equal start' and be allowed to start accumulating wealth again - ok it would take years ~90 years before the majority was passing on their wealth again.

I must note, i was trying to come up with an extreme and possibly unworkable plan to contrast how little is currently being done with affirmative action (and how managable it is). But i'd definitely be interested in reading more about the Ottomans :)

@"That's a cool story MajorMitchell, anyway, come back to reality. Most people voted for Trump because he had a hopeful and optimistic message about economic prosperity. She just wasn't a good candidate. Sorry."

You have the crux of it. She represented the status quo, in a way few else could have. And under the status quo many millions of Americans suffered - as a result of a banking crisis they had nothing to do with.

It is only a pity the US doesn't have a better electoral system. Even France's system would be an improvement.

But on the flip-side, i am shocked to hear people saying that they didn't vote for Hillary because she had too much experience. That is usually considered a good thing. It has really been spun into a negative - and not by Trump, but by the media - it think that is an impressive spin.

Also, all the racism and misogyny spewing from Trump's mouth, makes it clear that (many) people will think of themselves first (and their economic position) and only worry about other people wen they have the comfort and privilege to do so. I guess that isn't too surprising. Look at all the wealthy white vegans. They have a comfortable enough life to care about animal welfare...

My primary reasons for not voting for Hillary were as follows:

a) She was more of a war monger than Trump, according to the campaign rhetoric of both. (Of course, Trump lied during the campaign.) Completely in the camp of the neocons, which is why so many of those neocon Republicans supported her. An enemy of my enemy is my friend. Trump?

b) She is horribly corrupt. Clinton Foundation, etc.

c) She was two-faced.

d) Lied about the email, destroying evidence, maybe worse (Rich murder?) etc.

e) She and the establishment Democrats cheated Sanders out of a primary victory.

Jill Stein was the better choice once Sanders was cheated out of the nomination.

"What was she going to do that was so bad?"

Dunno, it was a secret.

@JeffKuta, here's the pushback on the story that Clinton ordered Rich murdered for contacting Wikileaks:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoerner/the-private-detective-who-ignited-a-clinton-conspiracy?utm_term=.yeY7gWwAW#.mtdYRnmLn

In light of the article, what is your position on the matter?

I agree that the whole "Clinton body count" thing is more conspiracy than fact, but they do keep popping up all the time so it seems.

Why are there so many Hillary threads? She's irrelevant now. She lost.

Those that voted for Trump for economic prosperity and jobs are cursing themselves for being stupid enough to do it. Trump has less new jobs than Obama over the same length of time and most of those new jobs were announced before the election. They want him to stop wasting time over illegal voters and other conspiracies and do something for them,

Hillary was going to bring back Democrat death panels to deny health insurance benefits. Trump is going to let market forces to it automatically with higher premiums and less coverage.

"Trump has less new jobs than Obama over the same length of time"

I seriously wish people would stop using this statistic as praise of Obama. It's incredibly misleading. A lot of those "new jobs" are extra jobs people have to take up just to pay their bills, and that's not good.

Most of the jobs that were created during the Obama Administration are part time, low income. In order to make a living wage, people need two of those jobs. Check the details inside the numbers. It is setting the US economy up for a really bad unemployment spike. If we have inflation at the same time, the whole fiat-banking, US Dollar system may crumble.

I wish people would acknowledge that we are in the midst of the longest running expansion of the U.S. economy in history. It happened to coincide with the Obama Administration and the follow on after the Great Recession. It could have been better except for 100% obstruction from the Republicans in Congress.

dream on ^^^^ Democrat arguments like this are why Trump won. People know for a fact that our economy sucks. Our kids cannot find good jobs and there are more unemployed people in the US than in our entire history. When the service sector collapses and those low wage, part-time jobs evaporate, we're going to be in deep trouble.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/BUSINESS/06/21/ford.jobs/index.html

Ford cuts white collar jobs because blue collar ones are union protected. While most will be in Europe, so much for Trump job creation. It's over.

@eturnage: The facts are the facts. You can try to argue against them qualitatively if you want, but the numbers are real.

Where was that Republican jobs bill after they took over Congress in 2011? Never once, but they had time to repeal the ACA 50-odd times. Do-nothing, good-for-nothing GOP.

And what has the GOP done since Trump took office? Pretty much nothing. They are good at manipulating the system (e.g. gerrymandering and voter suppression) to win elections, but they have no idea how to govern effectively.