Alright thanks, if it goes on for a couple more years and he still does not draw I will email them

I think if the same exact moves are made 3 turns in a row, the game is supposed to end in a draw. So, if that has happened, you have the right to email the mods and get them to end the game (I think, not completely sure).

chess rules apply? lol

I believe so lol

No, but your situation is covered under the rules that says you shouldn't to anything to ruin the game for other people and refusing to draw basically ruins the game. Which is why the mods will force draws in some cases.

Mr. Bombadil is correct. If someone who is obviously stalemated refuses to draw, then they are basically waiting for a NMR to take advantage. That isn't gamesmanship and attempts to use the system, itself, to take advantage of the game. Email the mods (help-rules of webdip-near the bottom of the page), and we'll take care of it.

FortKnox e-mailed me about this, and now I will explain my reasoning. While gunboats have no messaging tabs, you can send messages through orders and actions. In the last few turns, I was trying to send messages for Turkey and Italy to first eliminate Austria. I wasn't sure if my orders were being observed by either. I think I got my response in Turkey's hitting Sevastopol as a "no". Only he can answer that. And that is why the game, http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=69032, finally ended.

I also told FortKnox that I found it interesting that in an early game, http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=1862, Vampiero had 17, and the other two of us had the other 17 about equally split. Vampiero forced that he had clearly won the game by getting 17, and one of the two of us had to give up an SC, otherwise he'd keep entering orders indefinitely. I looked it up and the conversation is still there about the mods declining to intervene.

I am also in a anonymous game now where I do not get why they all want to draw. I am the smallest of them! Moves are still being made (13 moves, 9 support moves, and 6 holds). I get the feeling that many people are going into games, eliminating a few countries and then drawing it to get the points rather than trying to win.

It was not my intent to wait for a CD/NMR. I was just trying to give the best chance for my messaging to be seen by the others. People who have played against me can probably verify that I don't try to take advantage. They may not like some of the decisions I make, but I think they would say I play fairly.

Weird, I can't see the order logs or the armies/fleets in http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=1862
Though I will point out that game was about 4 years ago, mod policies may have changed since then.

You were not in the wrong here Jefe. It is very reasonable to do what you did with the hopes of cutting down the number included in the draw.

And one common tactic of the 17 player is to pull back from the line to encourage a stab and then go for the win. Works sometimes especially with players who don't see the ploy for what it is.