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SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Citing works
Okay, I understand if you quote a survey you would do it like this (Blankflag 2013)1

1. BLANKFLAG, M. 2013. Blankflag's news thread. Webdiplomacy.
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08 Apr 13 UTC
But how do you cite classical texts because I've seen a number of methods online.

As an example, let's use Kant's Critique of Pure Reason. I presume you don't put (Kant 1781)?

And the reference?
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08 Apr 13 UTC
Also this can be general citations thread
blankflag (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
i think there is something called mla, and then there is a less popular one called apa. different style guides with different ways of citing. depends on what your teacher wants. or if there is no teacher than it depends on what field you are writing in. read some stuff in the field and see what is popular and copy it. that is the way to do it.

speaking of citing things, 2 examples of famous quotes that people got wrong and made no sense to people like me at all and i never understood them until i later found out they were misquotes.

one small step for man one giant leap for mankind - what? man and mankind have the same meaning here so what is this trying to say?
turns out it was
one small step for a man one giant leap for mankind

power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely ... ? what does it mean to corrupt absolutely?
turns out it was
power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely. - oh i see, "corrupts absolutely" just means "definitely corrupts" not some super-corruption or something... that kind of makes no sense.

hope that helps
jimgov (219 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
@SYnapse - Try this site. Just plug in the information and it makes an MLA style citation for you.

http://www.easybib.com/
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08 Apr 13 UTC
Kant, Immanuel, Paul Guyer, and Allen W. Wood. Critique of Pure Reason. Cambridge [u.a.: Cambridge Univ., 1998. N. pag. Print.

KANT, I. ed. 1998. Critique of Pure Reason. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press
SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Top is MLA, bottom is Harvard. Also I'm confused about in-text citations. Would I put (Kant 1781) (original date)? Publication date and page number - (Kant 1998:72)?

I know that Plato and Aristotle for example have their own referencing rules.
I for one almost never use re-publications. Original language if I can handle it. SO in fact, my style would be (Kant, 1781:72).

However, I got away with a lot because I used the EndNote software. It has a built in style guide and saves you a lot of headache by being able to archive appropriate quotes and to easily make a bibliography. I don't know if it still is what kids today use, but it was good in the day so it's worth a google.
Draugnar (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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Or just do like some people here and copy an entire tale, word for word, without any citation at all and swear it wasn't plagiarism.
Draugnar (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
power corrupts and absdolute power corrupts absolutley still makes sense. There is corruption (where one is somewhat evil but still has an element of good int hem, like Darth Vader) and absolute corruption (where one has no possibility of redemption or good left, like Emperor Palpatine).
blankflag (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
it still sounds weird though. its like saying "gay men wear pink" "totally gay men wear pink totally". ... its not normal english. you dont go around saying "this man was corrupted absolutely"....
ok i cant explain why it sounds weird and nonstandard english but it does
I'm still not quite on board with the whole notion that throwing Palpy in the well is akin to there still being good in him. If Palp is considered absolute corruption, but Vader isnt, I'd say we might be putting the bar a tad high.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA
Also, about the quote, just see the word 'absolute' as meaning 'the most', as its meant in this instance. Power corrupts. More power corrupts more. The most power corrupts the most.
ava2790 (232 D(S))
08 Apr 13 UTC
http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/tools_citationguide.html
ulytau (541 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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Palpatine is pure fun, not evil. People need to watch more canonical work, like Robot Chicken.
Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Apr 13 UTC
@TMoW - Luke could sense the good in Vader. But he didn't say anything like that to Palpatine.
LOVE Robot Chicken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F1d3QWsyk0
Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Apr 13 UTC
Robot Chicken is *the* best animated show for adults. Of course I do love Star Wars: Clone Wars and Tron: Uprising but they are for preteens/tweens on up.


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murraysheroes (526 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
What's the point in cheating?
I've wondered this about board games both board games and video/computer games. Please provide to me the behind-the-scenes into the psyche of the cheater.
-Does having more kills or WebDip points make you feel better about yourself?
-Is it really worth screwing over the other people involved in the game for you to get a meaningless win?
Please, help me get it.
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dubmdell (556 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
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Hey Draugnar
"I pledge $100 to the site if Agent K stays banned." Pay up, Draugy-boy! You got your wish! threadID=994301, page 4

Remember, http://i.imgur.com/O7Vmc.png
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
Nuclear Proliferation
Why do we let a country like North Korea do nuclear tests? Isn't that dangerous? Isn't it even more dangerous because they might sell the knowledge they acquire to islamic nutcases? Discuss.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
New issue of Diplomacy World
http://www.diplomacyworld.net/
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
07 Apr 13 UTC
CD Takeover Challenge
Old thread was locked... below are the current scores.
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blankflag (0 DX)
07 Apr 13 UTC
true or false: "your kid is yours, and totally your responsibility."
isnt it time we move forward and stop claiming that we have the right to decide whats best for our kids? or even saying "our" kids. as if parents own them. newsflash - those kids arent yours.
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King Atom (100 D)
06 Apr 13 UTC
The Vicarial Sandgoose Thread
That's right! Sandgoose has gots things to say...For those of you too pretentious to pop in at vDip, here's where we'll get words from the man himself!
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jimgov (219 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
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Holy Grail or Life of Brian
Both great movies. Both with classic lines. My money is on Life of Brian. Who ya got?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Help required
From draugnar or others who are wizards with computers, more details inside.
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yaks (218 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
EoG Quick Game -5
Did we really have to include italy on that one?
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Smoove7182954 (0 DX)
07 Apr 13 UTC
How do you move via convoy because when i try it it fails
I tried to check the intro to diplomacy but the pictures dont work for somereason
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kamikaze0214 (204 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
new game!
5 min, starting at 7!
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
Potential Reinstatement, please read and give your opinion.
Recently the team has been contacted by a formerly banned player Agent K, asking to be reinstated. Below is a statement of his to the community and the moderator team's thoughts on the topic. Please read through and let us know what you think or any questions you have.

-jmo and the WebDip Mods
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jmbostwick (2308 D)
04 Apr 13 UTC
North Carolina Exempts Itself From Constitution
http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2013/Bills/House/HTML/H494v1.html

In short: "North Carolina is exempt from the Establishment Clause, and thus can declare a state-endorsed religion if desired." Thoughts?
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
06 Apr 13 UTC
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Survey as to whether Agent K should be allowed to come back
I figure that this would be the most efficient way to collect the data.
Please vote yes, no, or if you have some specific conditions that you want to specify.
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/DXRYY5B
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
Privatization 5
I have converged to a position on this issue.
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Alderian (2425 D(S))
05 Apr 13 UTC
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April Ghost Ratings
The Ghost Ratings for April have been posted. But note there have been a few changes... (see inside)
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Apr 13 UTC
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Anger Management Thread
Got shit to say? Want someone to rot in hell with a knife in their back? Did you run out of Diet Coke and have to, out of pure desperation, turn to water in the morning? Blow of steam here!
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Tagger (129 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
Please join if you are a newbie!
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dubmdell (556 D)
06 Apr 13 UTC
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Why Democracy Doesn't Work
Proof by counterexample: threadID=994301
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
03 Apr 13 UTC
One for the boys ....... is porn a force for good or evil?
Does the free access and liberal attitudes to sex and pornography in some countries actually lead to more sexual indiscretion/abuse/violence/crime or does its availability lead to a safer society?
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Frank (100 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
Toronto Face-to-Face Diplomacy Game
I have never played the actual board game but would like to try. It should be after tax season so Lando can join us. Maybe a weekend in early May?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
06 Apr 13 UTC
I think Mujus muted me for saying "fuck" in the title of a thread.
Hurray! Good riddance to the asshole who thinks he can assert his personal moral code to restrict freedom of speech. Fuck yeah!

Fucking free speech rocks!
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
06 Apr 13 UTC
Phase clock issue
Anyone else having an issue. The clock says now and doesn't turn the phase over for about 1 minute despite repeated refreshes, then once it does the clock is at 3:45 or so.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
04 Apr 13 UTC
US foreign policy .... now they want to fight North Korea
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22021832
Why don't they train their diplomats to talk to people without bullying them. This is a crisis all of their own making...... idiots
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soxtober12 (528 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
New Maps?
Is there any change you guys will come out with a new map, the ones you have now are great, but it would be cool to try a new one.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
27 Jan 13 UTC
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Webdip Leagues - Spring 2013 signup!
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https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/The-php-League
Do NOT post below. Removing some-one else's name from the list will get you permanently banned from the leagues. (please bump this thread as needed)
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yaks (218 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
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What If Kestas Died?
What would happen to the site if Kestas died?
Would it erode away, it's unsolved bugs slowly making the game less enjoyable?
Or is there some emergency protocol that will let the other mods take power?
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