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SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Citing works
Okay, I understand if you quote a survey you would do it like this (Blankflag 2013)1

1. BLANKFLAG, M. 2013. Blankflag's news thread. Webdiplomacy.
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murraysheroes (526 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
What's the point in cheating?
I've wondered this about board games both board games and video/computer games. Please provide to me the behind-the-scenes into the psyche of the cheater.
-Does having more kills or WebDip points make you feel better about yourself?
-Is it really worth screwing over the other people involved in the game for you to get a meaningless win?
Please, help me get it.
murraysheroes (526 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
And yet again, I need to learn to re-read my posts before submitting.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
08 Apr 13 UTC
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From my experience, the screwing people over part is the goal, not the winning. They don't feel superior for winning the game, they feel superior because they were able to mess you up.

My younger boys play some Roboblox game or something like that, with a lot of different servers with various challenges and things, and there are a lot of people on there whose sole goal is to mess everyone else up.

It is like in minecraft going into someone's server and destroying their structures.

Or back in the Everquest days of getting a train of mobs on you and dumping them on an unsuspecting party.

I'm sure there are plenty of other non-diplomacy examples.
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
08 Apr 13 UTC
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The only way we'll know for sure is if we let cheaters come back, make an account, explain their rationale, and then ban them again. I don't know if I like that so much.

The other is to have cheaters come forward, label themselves as such and explain why they feel the need to cheat. I would welcome this.
murraysheroes (526 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
So it's the anonymous online outlet for the gaming sociopath or misanthrope? I guess it's better that they let it out in a game than in real life...
Tyran (914 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Well that's a challenge to the argument that games make people violent. In fact that stands to prove that games stop people from becoming violent.
spyman (424 D(G))
08 Apr 13 UTC
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I think there are a few types of cheats.
Some people who are new and metagame with friends don't even think if it as cheating. People form alliances in the game and what could be more natural than allying with your friend.
Playing with a multi is like change the game setting from hard to medium or easy in a computer game. Sure some satisfaction is lost because you are playing on the easy setting, but this is made up for for the satisfaction of winning.
Some players enjoy cheating the system. They are playing two games: diplomacy and cheat the system. They get a buzz in seeing how many multis they can create without getting caught. It's a challenge.
Some players think they have discovered a clever way to win. After all it is Diplomacy and isn't this the game where anything goes.
Some players have ego isssues and are delusional. They know they are cheating but somehow they are able to lie to themselves and convince themselves that they really are a top twenty GR player.
Some players are stupid. I remember one player who couldn't understand what he had done wrong. His excuse was that he was just making his multi play the moves that his ally would have played. What's the difference?
yebellz (729 D(G))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Based on what I've seen as a player and a moderator, I think spyman and Alderian have summed it up pretty well. I would have added my own specific thoughts, but it would probably be only just a more verbose rehashing of what they've already said.
dubmdell (556 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
It's about dick size. Evolution made us care about being better than everyone else. It's about dick size, even if you have to make everyone else shrink to look bigger.
murraysheroes (526 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
I totally get the "meta"s as well. I personally know several users, and I have made it a point to either play a private game with only friends and family, or only play with strangers because it would be too easy to look like you're choosing your alliances based on relations rather than strategy whether it's true our not. That's a far cry from cheating to me, but it's still unfair. I like spyman's rationale, though...delusion may be a big factor.


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dubmdell (556 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
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Hey Draugnar
"I pledge $100 to the site if Agent K stays banned." Pay up, Draugy-boy! You got your wish! threadID=994301, page 4

Remember, http://i.imgur.com/O7Vmc.png
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
Nuclear Proliferation
Why do we let a country like North Korea do nuclear tests? Isn't that dangerous? Isn't it even more dangerous because they might sell the knowledge they acquire to islamic nutcases? Discuss.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
New issue of Diplomacy World
http://www.diplomacyworld.net/
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
07 Apr 13 UTC
CD Takeover Challenge
Old thread was locked... below are the current scores.
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blankflag (0 DX)
07 Apr 13 UTC
true or false: "your kid is yours, and totally your responsibility."
isnt it time we move forward and stop claiming that we have the right to decide whats best for our kids? or even saying "our" kids. as if parents own them. newsflash - those kids arent yours.
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King Atom (100 D)
06 Apr 13 UTC
The Vicarial Sandgoose Thread
That's right! Sandgoose has gots things to say...For those of you too pretentious to pop in at vDip, here's where we'll get words from the man himself!
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jimgov (219 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
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Holy Grail or Life of Brian
Both great movies. Both with classic lines. My money is on Life of Brian. Who ya got?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Help required
From draugnar or others who are wizards with computers, more details inside.
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yaks (218 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
EoG Quick Game -5
Did we really have to include italy on that one?
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Smoove7182954 (0 DX)
07 Apr 13 UTC
How do you move via convoy because when i try it it fails
I tried to check the intro to diplomacy but the pictures dont work for somereason
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kamikaze0214 (204 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
new game!
5 min, starting at 7!
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
Potential Reinstatement, please read and give your opinion.
Recently the team has been contacted by a formerly banned player Agent K, asking to be reinstated. Below is a statement of his to the community and the moderator team's thoughts on the topic. Please read through and let us know what you think or any questions you have.

-jmo and the WebDip Mods
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jmbostwick (2308 D)
04 Apr 13 UTC
North Carolina Exempts Itself From Constitution
http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2013/Bills/House/HTML/H494v1.html

In short: "North Carolina is exempt from the Establishment Clause, and thus can declare a state-endorsed religion if desired." Thoughts?
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
06 Apr 13 UTC
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Survey as to whether Agent K should be allowed to come back
I figure that this would be the most efficient way to collect the data.
Please vote yes, no, or if you have some specific conditions that you want to specify.
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/DXRYY5B
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
Privatization 5
I have converged to a position on this issue.
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Alderian (2425 D(S))
05 Apr 13 UTC
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April Ghost Ratings
The Ghost Ratings for April have been posted. But note there have been a few changes... (see inside)
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Apr 13 UTC
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Anger Management Thread
Got shit to say? Want someone to rot in hell with a knife in their back? Did you run out of Diet Coke and have to, out of pure desperation, turn to water in the morning? Blow of steam here!
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Tagger (129 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
Please join if you are a newbie!
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dubmdell (556 D)
06 Apr 13 UTC
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Why Democracy Doesn't Work
Proof by counterexample: threadID=994301
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
03 Apr 13 UTC
One for the boys ....... is porn a force for good or evil?
Does the free access and liberal attitudes to sex and pornography in some countries actually lead to more sexual indiscretion/abuse/violence/crime or does its availability lead to a safer society?
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Frank (100 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
Toronto Face-to-Face Diplomacy Game
I have never played the actual board game but would like to try. It should be after tax season so Lando can join us. Maybe a weekend in early May?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
06 Apr 13 UTC
I think Mujus muted me for saying "fuck" in the title of a thread.
Hurray! Good riddance to the asshole who thinks he can assert his personal moral code to restrict freedom of speech. Fuck yeah!

Fucking free speech rocks!
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
06 Apr 13 UTC
Phase clock issue
Anyone else having an issue. The clock says now and doesn't turn the phase over for about 1 minute despite repeated refreshes, then once it does the clock is at 3:45 or so.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
04 Apr 13 UTC
US foreign policy .... now they want to fight North Korea
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22021832
Why don't they train their diplomats to talk to people without bullying them. This is a crisis all of their own making...... idiots
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soxtober12 (528 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
New Maps?
Is there any change you guys will come out with a new map, the ones you have now are great, but it would be cool to try a new one.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
27 Jan 13 UTC
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Webdip Leagues - Spring 2013 signup!
Please add your name here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoMTSPq4VDvPdHZTSHB5a1lmM0licUY4WExKaDVMZHc#gid=0

https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/The-php-League
Do NOT post below. Removing some-one else's name from the list will get you permanently banned from the leagues. (please bump this thread as needed)
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yaks (218 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
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What If Kestas Died?
What would happen to the site if Kestas died?
Would it erode away, it's unsolved bugs slowly making the game less enjoyable?
Or is there some emergency protocol that will let the other mods take power?
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