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08 Apr 13 UTC
Citing works
Okay, I understand if you quote a survey you would do it like this (Blankflag 2013)1

1. BLANKFLAG, M. 2013. Blankflag's news thread. Webdiplomacy.
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murraysheroes (526 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
What's the point in cheating?
I've wondered this about board games both board games and video/computer games. Please provide to me the behind-the-scenes into the psyche of the cheater.
-Does having more kills or WebDip points make you feel better about yourself?
-Is it really worth screwing over the other people involved in the game for you to get a meaningless win?
Please, help me get it.
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dubmdell (556 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
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Hey Draugnar
"I pledge $100 to the site if Agent K stays banned." Pay up, Draugy-boy! You got your wish! threadID=994301, page 4

Remember, http://i.imgur.com/O7Vmc.png
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
Nuclear Proliferation
Why do we let a country like North Korea do nuclear tests? Isn't that dangerous? Isn't it even more dangerous because they might sell the knowledge they acquire to islamic nutcases? Discuss.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
New issue of Diplomacy World
http://www.diplomacyworld.net/
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
07 Apr 13 UTC
CD Takeover Challenge
Old thread was locked... below are the current scores.
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blankflag (0 DX)
07 Apr 13 UTC
true or false: "your kid is yours, and totally your responsibility."
isnt it time we move forward and stop claiming that we have the right to decide whats best for our kids? or even saying "our" kids. as if parents own them. newsflash - those kids arent yours.
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King Atom (100 D)
06 Apr 13 UTC
The Vicarial Sandgoose Thread
That's right! Sandgoose has gots things to say...For those of you too pretentious to pop in at vDip, here's where we'll get words from the man himself!
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jimgov (219 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
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Holy Grail or Life of Brian
Both great movies. Both with classic lines. My money is on Life of Brian. Who ya got?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Help required
From draugnar or others who are wizards with computers, more details inside.
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yaks (218 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
EoG Quick Game -5
Did we really have to include italy on that one?
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Smoove7182954 (0 DX)
07 Apr 13 UTC
How do you move via convoy because when i try it it fails
I tried to check the intro to diplomacy but the pictures dont work for somereason
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kamikaze0214 (204 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
new game!
5 min, starting at 7!
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
Potential Reinstatement, please read and give your opinion.
Recently the team has been contacted by a formerly banned player Agent K, asking to be reinstated. Below is a statement of his to the community and the moderator team's thoughts on the topic. Please read through and let us know what you think or any questions you have.

-jmo and the WebDip Mods
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jmbostwick (2308 D)
04 Apr 13 UTC
North Carolina Exempts Itself From Constitution
http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2013/Bills/House/HTML/H494v1.html

In short: "North Carolina is exempt from the Establishment Clause, and thus can declare a state-endorsed religion if desired." Thoughts?
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
04 Apr 13 UTC
Just because NC declares that the 10th Amendment doesn't apply to states doesn't make it true. Completely unconstitutional.
rs2excelsior (600 D)
04 Apr 13 UTC
Technically, the entire bill of rights applies only to the Federal government, not the states. Many of the individual rights within have been incorporated via the 14th Amendment to restrict the state governments too by the supreme court. I don't know if the establishment clause has been incorporated or not. If not, it would be constitutional for NC (or any state) to establish a state religion, though it would probably lead in short order to a supreme court case incorporating the establishment clause to the states.
jimgov (219 D(B))
04 Apr 13 UTC
It's a resolution. Not a bill. It hasn't passed. It won't pass. If it does pass, it's unconstitutional. It's ridiculous.

Those are my thoughts.
jmbostwick (2308 D)
04 Apr 13 UTC
rs2 -- After looking it up, it appears that Everson v. Board of Education (a Supreme Court case in 1947) was the first time that the Establishment Clause was bound to the states, citing the 14th Amendment as justification. It's been established legal precedent now for just over 66 years.
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
04 Apr 13 UTC
r2, its illegal for any level of government to endorse a specific religion.
rs2excelsior (600 D)
04 Apr 13 UTC
@ 2ndwhiteline: based on the court case cited by jmbostwick, yes. But if you didn't have the 14th Amendment, it wouldn't be. The constitution applies to the federal government only except where it specifically targets the states.
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
04 Apr 13 UTC
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But...you do have the 14th Amendment. So why bother with hypotheticals?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
04 Apr 13 UTC
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Last time they tried that Andrew Jackson sent a shit ton of troops their way and it got them to shut up for 200 years.
jimgov (219 D(B))
04 Apr 13 UTC
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+1 bo_sox
Draugnar (0 DX)
04 Apr 13 UTC
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I second jimgov's +1 of bo_sox.
Mujus (1495 D(B))
07 Apr 13 UTC
Interesting how the courts have extended federal law to the states. At the time the constitution was written, many states, signatories to the constitution, had state religions. Here's a link to a chart showing which states had state religions, and from what year to what year. It also has very interesting excerpts from the laws of those states regarding religion. http://undergod.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=69
Mujus (1495 D(B))
07 Apr 13 UTC
The Supreme Court previously held, in Barron v. Baltimore, 32 U.S. 243 (1833), that the Constitution's Bill of Rights applied only to the federal government, that states were free to enforce statutes that restricted the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, and that the federal courts could not interfere with the enforcement of such statutes. Gitlow v. New York partly reversed that precedent and began a trend toward its nearly complete reversal. The Supreme Court now holds that almost every provision of the Bill of Rights applies to both the federal government and the states.

The Supreme Court relied on the "due process clause" of the Fourteenth Amendment, which prohibits a state from depriving "any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." The Court stated that "For present purposes we may and do assume that" the rights of freedom of speech and freedom of the press were "among the fundamental personal rights and 'liberties' protected by the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment from impairment by the states" (at 666).

The Court used the doctrine first enunciated in Gitlow in other cases, such as De Jonge v. Oregon, 299 U.S. 353 (1937), Wolf v. Colorado, 338 U.S. 25 (1949), and Gideon v. Wainwright, 372 U.S. 335 (1963), to extend the reach of the Bill of Rights. Constitutional scholars refer to this as the "incorporation doctrine," meaning that the Supreme Court has identified rights specified in the Bill of Rights and incorporated them into the liberties covered by the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitlow_v._New_York
Mujus (1495 D(B))
07 Apr 13 UTC
The above was a quote.
semck83 (229 D(B))
07 Apr 13 UTC
@bo_sox,

"Last time they tried that Andrew Jackson sent a shit ton of troops their way and it got them to shut up for 200 years."

Huh? What the heck are you talking about?

Anyway, as to the law, yes, of course it's unconstitutional, because the fourteenth amendment does incorporate most of the bill of rights against the states (a concept that people were already aware of at the time of its ratification).


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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
06 Apr 13 UTC
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Survey as to whether Agent K should be allowed to come back
I figure that this would be the most efficient way to collect the data.
Please vote yes, no, or if you have some specific conditions that you want to specify.
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/DXRYY5B
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
Privatization 5
I have converged to a position on this issue.
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Alderian (2425 D(S))
05 Apr 13 UTC
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April Ghost Ratings
The Ghost Ratings for April have been posted. But note there have been a few changes... (see inside)
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Apr 13 UTC
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Anger Management Thread
Got shit to say? Want someone to rot in hell with a knife in their back? Did you run out of Diet Coke and have to, out of pure desperation, turn to water in the morning? Blow of steam here!
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Tagger (129 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
Please join if you are a newbie!
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dubmdell (556 D)
06 Apr 13 UTC
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Why Democracy Doesn't Work
Proof by counterexample: threadID=994301
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
03 Apr 13 UTC
One for the boys ....... is porn a force for good or evil?
Does the free access and liberal attitudes to sex and pornography in some countries actually lead to more sexual indiscretion/abuse/violence/crime or does its availability lead to a safer society?
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Frank (100 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
Toronto Face-to-Face Diplomacy Game
I have never played the actual board game but would like to try. It should be after tax season so Lando can join us. Maybe a weekend in early May?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
06 Apr 13 UTC
I think Mujus muted me for saying "fuck" in the title of a thread.
Hurray! Good riddance to the asshole who thinks he can assert his personal moral code to restrict freedom of speech. Fuck yeah!

Fucking free speech rocks!
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
06 Apr 13 UTC
Phase clock issue
Anyone else having an issue. The clock says now and doesn't turn the phase over for about 1 minute despite repeated refreshes, then once it does the clock is at 3:45 or so.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
04 Apr 13 UTC
US foreign policy .... now they want to fight North Korea
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22021832
Why don't they train their diplomats to talk to people without bullying them. This is a crisis all of their own making...... idiots
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soxtober12 (528 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
New Maps?
Is there any change you guys will come out with a new map, the ones you have now are great, but it would be cool to try a new one.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
27 Jan 13 UTC
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Webdip Leagues - Spring 2013 signup!
Please add your name here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoMTSPq4VDvPdHZTSHB5a1lmM0licUY4WExKaDVMZHc#gid=0

https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/The-php-League
Do NOT post below. Removing some-one else's name from the list will get you permanently banned from the leagues. (please bump this thread as needed)
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yaks (218 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
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What If Kestas Died?
What would happen to the site if Kestas died?
Would it erode away, it's unsolved bugs slowly making the game less enjoyable?
Or is there some emergency protocol that will let the other mods take power?
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