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08 Apr 13 UTC
Citing works
Okay, I understand if you quote a survey you would do it like this (Blankflag 2013)1

1. BLANKFLAG, M. 2013. Blankflag's news thread. Webdiplomacy.
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murraysheroes (526 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
What's the point in cheating?
I've wondered this about board games both board games and video/computer games. Please provide to me the behind-the-scenes into the psyche of the cheater.
-Does having more kills or WebDip points make you feel better about yourself?
-Is it really worth screwing over the other people involved in the game for you to get a meaningless win?
Please, help me get it.
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dubmdell (556 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
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Hey Draugnar
"I pledge $100 to the site if Agent K stays banned." Pay up, Draugy-boy! You got your wish! threadID=994301, page 4

Remember, http://i.imgur.com/O7Vmc.png
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
Nuclear Proliferation
Why do we let a country like North Korea do nuclear tests? Isn't that dangerous? Isn't it even more dangerous because they might sell the knowledge they acquire to islamic nutcases? Discuss.
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We cannot prevent the majority of our nations obtaining nuclear weapons. It is a natural step for countries without nuclear facilities to attempt to obtain them for the benefit of their populace and improved security. Brazil will become a nuclear power. South Africa, Australia and Canada will become nuclear powers. North Korea has become a nuclear power. Sooner or later, people we don’t particularly ‘like’ will have nukes.

So what is the solution? The solution is instead, to look at proposals for a nuclear-armed world, instead of attempting to stop proliferation, which is now a lost cause.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Making nuclear weapons is much easier than it used be. Germany and Japan could both enrich Uranium from their civilian nuclear programs in weeks or months if they wanted to. (but nobody is worried they will, largely because of their allies and the history of them not doing so)

(we 'stop' other nations from acquiring weapons by offering them access to civilian nuclear power - via the NNP treaty - but this didn't work to stop India or Pakistan.)

That said there are two difficult steps - enriching Uranium, with centrifuges operating on Uranium gases (probably Uranium Fluoride) and once you have enriched enough a bomb is really easy to make (rockets are still much more difficult, but i'm sure another delivery system could be used)

Plutonium weapons also involve a difficult step, it is much easier to get your hands on Plutonium (from a nuclear reactor) but requires an implosion which is very complicated (though i guess modern computers could simulate the required shock-wave fronts... )

The solution? Support states, have them included in the international community to the point where they have more to lose by being left out.

The Marshal plan is a great example, the US supporting the rebuilding of Europe (because what happened after world war 1 in germany was a terrible result of that war) and including western europe (along with Japan, as it happens) in the American 'empire' a commercial enterprise - This allowed Europeans buy US goods and defend themselves from the Soviet Union (i'm sure different parts of the American political system were more or less interested in each of these goals, but both goals were achieved)

To include nations like Iran and North Korea (well you might want first to resolve the Korean war, and unify North and South... ) in the international community, give them more so they don't have more to lose from war than they can possibly gain...

China is not a threat to 'world stability' because it is thriving on the trade relationships it has with the US, Russia, Africa, and Europe.... How to include Korea or Iran is a difficult question, but that is what you should be asking.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Apr 13 UTC
The thing about the Marshall Plan is that it was incredibly expensive. It's safe to say now that it was a major success and in my mind on of the real high points in American history, especially after a tragic turn with the wars, but it would be near impossible to accomplish today for any of the seven powerful nations but Germany. The rest have their own issues to deal with, as does Germany, but once Berlin is fully built up again thy should be okay to start importing more like they did before the wars. If nuclear power is going to work the same way, it certainly will be awhile before the United States (or another power) can intervene in order to assist another nation in building up without having to use nuclear power.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
08 Apr 13 UTC
@bo_sox:
"@Steephie ... the Marshall Plan is one of the most notably one-sided deals in history. It was out of pure desire to repair Europe. Some would argue that they expected repayment, but they certainly weren't expecting physical compensation."

Again, I disagree with the word pure... How about strengthening capitalism? Weakening communism? Also it was good for their economy right?
Yonni (136 D(S))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Orthaic, I think you're overstating the simplicity of creating a bomb. For the bomb to have a nuclear explosion and not just be a dirty conventional bomb, the geometry, timing, and electronics are quite advanced. Now, I have no idea how realized these technologies are in non-nuclear states. It may be a relatively small speed bump like you suggest but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Apr 13 UTC
The Marshall Plan was not intended to weaken communism or strengthen capitalism. Be mindful that the aid was offered to the Soviet Union as well, though I'm sure the United States didn't want to do so. When the USSR rejected it, the leaders of the US probably rejoiced and drank all night.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
@Yonni, Uranium fission bombs are really easy - once you can enrich them, you can accidentally set them off. (no problems with geometry, or timing, but the enrichment is difficult)

Plutonium bombs on the other hand are really tough. (much easier to enrich, but it blows itself apart before the chain reaction has a chance to use up all the fuel, thus leaving you with a dirty bomb...)

But of all the difficulties, technology has gotten easier since the 40s when the US and USR first managed to build their nukes.

India had enriched Uranium from it's civilian program, and just had to enrich to a higher percentage - and had help from the international community building this civilian program.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
The marshal plan meant peace in Europe, which was exactly the opposite of the treaty of Versailles after world war 1. You have to look at it not from the perspective of the cold war and the eventual development of the European Union, look at it as a lesson learned from the first world war, and the same mistakes not being repeated.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
08 Apr 13 UTC
"The Marshall Plan was not intended to weaken communism or strengthen capitalism. Be mindful that the aid was offered to the Soviet Union as well, though I'm sure the United States didn't want to do so. When the USSR rejected it, the leaders of the US probably rejoiced and drank all night." Russians rejected because it would strengthen capitalism and weaken communism... So why wouldn't that be the reason for Americans to offer it in the first place? If Russia accepted they probably wouldn't have stayed communists much longer, right? And peace works for the US too of course...

Again, I agree it's a good move, but I think it's not really that purely to help the people, they gained from it themselves too...
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Apr 13 UTC
How would that strengthen capitalism? It would simply allow Russia to rebuild with someone else's money. They said no because they didn't want to accept the American help, not because they thought it would strengthen America.


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orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
New issue of Diplomacy World
http://www.diplomacyworld.net/
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
07 Apr 13 UTC
CD Takeover Challenge
Old thread was locked... below are the current scores.
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blankflag (0 DX)
07 Apr 13 UTC
true or false: "your kid is yours, and totally your responsibility."
isnt it time we move forward and stop claiming that we have the right to decide whats best for our kids? or even saying "our" kids. as if parents own them. newsflash - those kids arent yours.
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King Atom (100 D)
06 Apr 13 UTC
The Vicarial Sandgoose Thread
That's right! Sandgoose has gots things to say...For those of you too pretentious to pop in at vDip, here's where we'll get words from the man himself!
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jimgov (219 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
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Holy Grail or Life of Brian
Both great movies. Both with classic lines. My money is on Life of Brian. Who ya got?
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Maniac (184 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Help required
From draugnar or others who are wizards with computers, more details inside.
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yaks (218 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
EoG Quick Game -5
Did we really have to include italy on that one?
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Smoove7182954 (0 DX)
07 Apr 13 UTC
How do you move via convoy because when i try it it fails
I tried to check the intro to diplomacy but the pictures dont work for somereason
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kamikaze0214 (204 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
new game!
5 min, starting at 7!
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
Potential Reinstatement, please read and give your opinion.
Recently the team has been contacted by a formerly banned player Agent K, asking to be reinstated. Below is a statement of his to the community and the moderator team's thoughts on the topic. Please read through and let us know what you think or any questions you have.

-jmo and the WebDip Mods
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jmbostwick (2308 D)
04 Apr 13 UTC
North Carolina Exempts Itself From Constitution
http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2013/Bills/House/HTML/H494v1.html

In short: "North Carolina is exempt from the Establishment Clause, and thus can declare a state-endorsed religion if desired." Thoughts?
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
06 Apr 13 UTC
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Survey as to whether Agent K should be allowed to come back
I figure that this would be the most efficient way to collect the data.
Please vote yes, no, or if you have some specific conditions that you want to specify.
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/DXRYY5B
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
Privatization 5
I have converged to a position on this issue.
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Alderian (2425 D(S))
05 Apr 13 UTC
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April Ghost Ratings
The Ghost Ratings for April have been posted. But note there have been a few changes... (see inside)
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Apr 13 UTC
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Anger Management Thread
Got shit to say? Want someone to rot in hell with a knife in their back? Did you run out of Diet Coke and have to, out of pure desperation, turn to water in the morning? Blow of steam here!
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Tagger (129 D)
07 Apr 13 UTC
Please join if you are a newbie!
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dubmdell (556 D)
06 Apr 13 UTC
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Why Democracy Doesn't Work
Proof by counterexample: threadID=994301
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
03 Apr 13 UTC
One for the boys ....... is porn a force for good or evil?
Does the free access and liberal attitudes to sex and pornography in some countries actually lead to more sexual indiscretion/abuse/violence/crime or does its availability lead to a safer society?
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Frank (100 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
Toronto Face-to-Face Diplomacy Game
I have never played the actual board game but would like to try. It should be after tax season so Lando can join us. Maybe a weekend in early May?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
06 Apr 13 UTC
I think Mujus muted me for saying "fuck" in the title of a thread.
Hurray! Good riddance to the asshole who thinks he can assert his personal moral code to restrict freedom of speech. Fuck yeah!

Fucking free speech rocks!
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
06 Apr 13 UTC
Phase clock issue
Anyone else having an issue. The clock says now and doesn't turn the phase over for about 1 minute despite repeated refreshes, then once it does the clock is at 3:45 or so.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
04 Apr 13 UTC
US foreign policy .... now they want to fight North Korea
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22021832
Why don't they train their diplomats to talk to people without bullying them. This is a crisis all of their own making...... idiots
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soxtober12 (528 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
New Maps?
Is there any change you guys will come out with a new map, the ones you have now are great, but it would be cool to try a new one.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
27 Jan 13 UTC
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Webdip Leagues - Spring 2013 signup!
Please add your name here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoMTSPq4VDvPdHZTSHB5a1lmM0licUY4WExKaDVMZHc#gid=0

https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/The-php-League
Do NOT post below. Removing some-one else's name from the list will get you permanently banned from the leagues. (please bump this thread as needed)
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yaks (218 D)
05 Apr 13 UTC
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What If Kestas Died?
What would happen to the site if Kestas died?
Would it erode away, it's unsolved bugs slowly making the game less enjoyable?
Or is there some emergency protocol that will let the other mods take power?
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