Who said it wasn't stupid? Offensive...not really.

What's offensive is the extreme media bias in reporting this stupid statement and making more of it than there is...while IGNORNIG the REAL RAPE story of the democrat Congressman who raped an underaged male.

1. Yeah...no.

I know plenty of women who are rather offended at the mention of "LEGITIMATE RAPE," krellin.

And...again--do you need the media to pacify you?

2. Really...I...I need to ask--

How is "legitimate rape" NOT offensive in your mind?

I'll take this thread a little more seriously when you do it, pal.

Maybe we can also agree that attacking the other party instead of promoting the benefits of your own is rather stupid. Maybe proposing that our President who was only confirmed and sworn in by ever government official wasn't born in the United States is rather stupid. Maybe proposing that a presidential candidate didn't file his tax returns and has used loopholes that every rich person uses to manipulate money out of the poor is rather stupid. Maybe the fact that the middle class is more charitable than the rich is rather stupid. Maybe our entire country has aspects of being rather stupid. We've got a lot of issues. Both parties. Not just GOP, not just Dems. Both parties.

3. I'm EQUALLY sick of that therm "the media."

Sorry, but contrary to whatever conspiracy theories you may believe in...

There is no one, single, monolithic "media."

CNN, MSNBC, FOX, BBC, ABC, CBS, Al Jazeera (to really go international)...

If you think they all have the same angle and can be put under a cohesive umbrella known as "The Media," you, quite simply, are ignorant.

Because there are *many* documented instances of women LYING about rape, moron.

And there are many *more* documented instances of women SUFFERING about REAL rape...

@PE:

I don't ask for a pacifier every time Biden says something stupid...

I don't jump up and point.

Perhaps others on the Left here (see: Putin) do, but not me.



If you're Left, and stupid, you're still stupid.
If you're Right, and stupid, you're still stupid.
If you're a Yankees fan, and stupid, you're still stupid...but deserve extra punishment.

(Damn Yankees!) ;)

Of course there are, moron, but that doesn't mean that all claims of rape are true. God...what is so fucking difficulty to grasp about that.

WOW, krellin...

You just essentially dismissed "legitimate rape" by saying "Well, women lie?"

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WOW.

krellin...does your alleged WIFE know you think women lie about rape?!

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I suddenly worry for that wife...

The problem with the term "legitimate" is that we're not talking about ACCUSATIONS. We're talking about actual rapes.

There are such things as illegitimate rape accusations. That's what the whole lying thing is about. There's no such thing as illegitimate rape. This is pretty obvious. And the context of his statement clearly cannot refer to lying about rape because he's talking about restricting abortions, which can only occur if the woman has been impregnated. Also obvious.

So no, there's no defense of his statement.

@Obi - re "monoithic media". You are just ignorant. Listen to various media outlets and you will here them use the EXACT same phrase for things all the time...different networks, supposedly in competition...all using the same talking points. If you can't see that....then I pity you. You are either willfully ignorant or stupid.

See, I posted regarding your second, fourth, and fifth sentence in that above post in another thread krellin. Thanks for taking my advice. STOP INSULTING PEOPLE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT PROVE ANY POINT OTHER THAN THAT YOU HAVE NONE

Right.

Because Bill O'Reilly, Jon Stewart, Anderson Cooper, Joey Behar, Geraldo Rivera, BBC presenters, and then folks ALL WROUND THE WORLD on Al Jazeera all have the same opinions.

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Really?

Not just American channels, but all channels, BBC and Al Jazeera included?

Why, krellin...PLEASE, DO enlighten me...how is it the whole world apparently is controlled by a media that has the same opinion no matter if they're based in Los Angeles, New York, London, the Middle East, or anywhere else?

(Do we Jews all REALLY control the media and banks of the world?! I haven't heard that conspiracy theory in all of a few weeks...huh, maybe I should apply for a job in World Domination then, eh?)

Obi, we can be Jew buddies. The fourth new Jew crew. My ex and I had one, then my religious school class had one, and then Israeli buddies and I had one, and now obi and I have one. Suck on that one bitches.

Cool--

How shall we manipulate the media to mess with krellin's mind next?

There's this myth about false rape reports that says they're often used to be vengeful about consensual activity that the woman later regretted. And yes, that definitely happens...infrequently compared to the number of rapes that occur, but it happens. There's also a feeling that a rape report is pretty much an instant conviction...in reality, fewer than one in four result in conviction. So the implication here that if you're pregnant you weren't actually raped seems to me to undermine even those one in four convictions.

But really, stupid things get trumpeted around no matter who says them. I mean, how about John Kerry voting for that bill before he voted against it or whatever the soundbite was. Bill Clinton telling us that whether or not he committed perjury depends on your definition of "is." We can laugh about the ridiculousness while simultaneously being outraged by the implications.

However, actual illegal acts tend to bubble up, get prosecuted, and move on. That's as true if the guy in the restroom is a Republican or a Democrat.

Yeah, and let's go blow up embassies or something. Let's go carve up Christian children and drink their blood. That's fun to us.

"So the implication here that if you're pregnant you weren't actually raped" Who ever said that? Good god...you people are just making up your own things now in order to slander the guy...because you are biased left-leaning....it's hillarious.

But...in truth...extreme stress *can* delay ovulation...thus a woman raped *prior* to ovulation may in fact not ovulate, reducing the occurrence of pregnancy. That's what the idiot was referring to. Again...a totally stupid thing to say...but if people would stop the theatrical hysterics maybe these issues could be discussed in a sensible manner.

But that does NOT mean a raped woman won't ovulate, or if she already did, she can get pregnant...but NOBODY ever said or implied pregnancy means a woman was not raped.

Also...if even a smallest fraction of rape accusations are FALSE and made up, then it is correct to say "legitimate" rape....as opposed to "Oh shit...I'm pregnant...DADDY, that boy raped me!" or whatever the scenario is.

Also -- the REAL issue -- ie that the RAPIST should be punished, NOT the baby in the womb...is what he was talking about...which you have all specifically ignored because the media has created a false story line and buried the real point of his statement.

From all of the above, only one thing can be deduced with certainty: krellin lost his virginity at 27.

"Also -- the REAL issue -- ie that the RAPIST should be punished, NOT the baby in the womb...is what he was talking about..."

Unless you can make the rapist carry the baby to term, this is punishing the victim.

Krellin, you didn't address anything in my post to you, which pretty much slapped down everything you said after I posted. Please reread and revise your stance accordingly, thanks.

"Also -- the REAL issue -- ie that the RAPIST should be punished, NOT the baby in the womb"

And the woman must be punished by having to carry that baby for 9 months, jeopardize her job, and possibly not be able to afford it?

Sorry, krellin--hate to break it to you, but women are more than mere breeding machines...

More false equivalence from Obi. Way to run interference for the GOP. No wonder you live in Anaheim.

Actually--I live an hour away from Los Angeles.

And I've said that repeatedly.

So...learn to read. It's a vital skill to learn so you can more effectively misread.

And how is my advocating for a woman's right to choose, as I did above, pro-GOP?

...Are you ANTI-Choice, Putin? That's not very liberal at all...