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John Viva (157 D)
20 Sep 13 UTC
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What is the point in "Anonymously + Without chat"?
As far as I understand "Diplomacy" game is all about negotiation. But I see many games here with no chat - what is the point?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
14 Sep 13 UTC
Argueing on webdip forums..
Why do we do it? what do we achieve?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTN9Nx8VYtk

Is there a better way to do things?
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LakersFan (899 D)
17 Sep 13 UTC
Fracking Flood Disaster in Colorado
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/15/1238996/-Is-there-a-media-blackout-on-the-fracking-flood-disaster-in-Colorado
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Triumvir (1193 D)
18 Sep 13 UTC
Back into the swing of things
Coming back to play after 2-years away. Looking to start a new game. Anyone interested in a 1-2 day Classic game? I prefer anonymous PPSC but would play WTA if there was more interest. Who wants in?
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hecks (164 D)
19 Sep 13 UTC
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Diplomacy Quotes
Everyone has a quote (literary, historical, movies) that sums up how they play Diplomacy. What's yours?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
21 Sep 13 UTC
When politics negates your democracy.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24183135
If your a Saudi princess there are no problems treating black people like shit ...... when human rights abuses are ignored you realize that even democracy has a price
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Maniac (189 D(B))
20 Sep 13 UTC
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Good parenting?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-X-one-direction-tickets-sydney-Friday-25th-October-/171129708772

I'm taking bets that this gets withdrawn.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
18 Sep 13 UTC
Subs for The Masters
I need two and then this tournament can be finished. Two players of good quality who will not drop out and will see this finished.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
21 Sep 13 UTC
This Time on Philosophy
This is NOT a thread about religion. No affirming Jesus as divine-ergo-correct, we're just comparing philosophies. If you want to argue the miracles are somehow parabolic--ie, that the Bread/Loaves one demonstrates a tenant of his philosophy-fair game, but no arguing on whether or not he "did it." So let's play the Jeffersonian game and just compare arguably the West's two most important philosophic influences--Socrates or Jesus, who has the better life view?
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dirge (768 D(B))
19 Sep 13 UTC
Human Rights Watch believes White south africans being murdered should be ignored.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_farm_attacks

Human Rights Watch, a group which respects its own activist credentials, believes that anyone who cares about White Africans (caucasian people who are native to Africa) being raped and murdered is racist.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
20 Sep 13 UTC
Banned by a moderator: Duplicate
What is the difference between a "multi" and a "duplicate" ?
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blankflag (0 DX)
20 Sep 13 UTC
was it all a dream?
at first i thought yeah maybe, but then i was not so sure
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
17 Sep 13 UTC
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WASHINGTON NAVY YARD.
Nope. No problem here AT ALL.
BWAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

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SYnapse (0 DX)
20 Sep 13 UTC
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Been diagnosed with a painful hernia
After lifting a 25kg book shelf by myself. I'm 23 years old and really thought this only happened with heavy weights/old age. Please, think twice before you lift anything gentlemen.
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
20 Sep 13 UTC
Pope says Church must end obsession with gays, contraception, abortion
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-church-cannot-obsessed-gays-contraception-abortion-163220900.html

I found this pretty fascinating considering the significant reversal it is from previous church leaders.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
19 Sep 13 UTC
Have you ever wondered .......
..... why we don't have a better life
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blankflag (0 DX)
16 Sep 13 UTC
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9/11
so... for those official theorists i think i can still give you more on 9/11 because this one obviously did have high ranking american official involvement and because it was so significant to the world. and it shows how coverups are possible that involve academia, government and the media working on concert.
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
16 Sep 13 UTC
Abolish the NSA
Its been a while since I've been this pissed at the actions of the US government. But I'm pretty mad after reading this economist article:
http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21586345-covertly-weakening-security-entire-internet-make-snooping-easier-bad
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
17 Sep 13 UTC
American Healthcare
Americans! As someone who has recently had a whole ton of major surgery, I'm very glad I don't live in your country. If you do, and you're wondering why you pay so much money for such a poor healthcare system, watch this:

http://www.upworthy.com/his-first-4-sentences-are-interesting-the-5th-blew-my-mind-and-made-me-a-little-sick-2
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Emac (0 DX)
18 Sep 13 UTC
Favorite Urban Dictionary Definitions
Urbandictionary.com is a really fun site. Post our favorite definitions from it.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
15 Sep 13 UTC
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After Obama
I've recently criticized Barack Obama rather severely. He deserved every letter of it. The alternative? I've said it before and I'll say it again: Jon Huntsman Jr. That's the guy I really hope (for the US at least) that he'll succeed this absolute clown of a President Obama.
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mellvins059 (199 D)
19 Sep 13 UTC
Server not Processing Game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=125826#gamePanel
Everyone is readied and it says server not processing game. Anyone else have this problem?
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HITLER69 (0 DX)
19 Sep 13 UTC
Fantasy NHL?
anyone playing? First time fantasy player here... threw down $20 to make the season a little more interesting
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rhoffman (100 D)
19 Sep 13 UTC
cu13
russia
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
12 Sep 13 UTC
NFL Week 2: Pick 'em--RGIII vs. Rodgers, Peyton vs. Eli, and SEATTLE vs. SAN FRAN!!!
We begin tonight, the Jets taking on the Patriots, so I'll post this now...in a battle of teams coming off hard Week 1 losses, the Packers and Redskins square off...the Battle of the Manning Brothers is renewed as Peyton and Eli match up...and in the main event...on the kind of game you WANT on Sunday Night Football...it's Kaepernick, Harbaugh and the Niners vs. Wilson, Carroll and the Seahawks! So...PICK 'EM!
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
16 Sep 13 UTC
For those that were recently saying racism is dead in America...
You suck.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/a-lot-of-people-are-very-upset-that-an-indian-american-woman
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PSMongoose (2384 D)
18 Sep 13 UTC
Preventing Civil Disorders?
A majority of my last few games have had one or more civil disorders. Any ideas about how to prevent them?
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
16 Sep 13 UTC
Our favorite webdipper is back!
I happened to notice the following active player in the cheating link from earlier: userID=26333

Lets all welcome back the best meme/player on this site, Bob Genghiskhan!
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
17 Sep 13 UTC
I can't access my work email
Should I go play with the MR scanner and get something else done, or call it a sign that no work should be done today and spend the whole day on Webdip and youtube?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
12 Sep 13 UTC
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Daily Bible Reading
There used to be a thread about daily Bible reading, did it manage to achieve anything or change anyones lives for the better? If not what was the point of doing it? Why would a person read the same book every day?
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JRKjellen (0 DX)
13 Sep 13 UTC
I'm no particle physicist, but my understanding of what Krauss is saying in this book is that there were quantum fields with no particles in them - called vacuum states - which he calls 'nothing'.

His (embarrassing) interview with the Atlantic reveals this, I think.

Krauss says:

"But I am certainly claiming a lot more than just that. That it's possible to create particles from no particles is remarkable---that you can do that with impunity, without violating the conservation of energy and all that, is a remarkable thing. The fact that "nothing," namely empty space, is unstable is amazing. But I'll be the first to say that empty space as I'm describing it isn't necessarily nothing, although I will add that it was plenty good enough for Augustine and the people who wrote the Bible. For them an eternal empty void was the definition of nothing, and certainly I show that that kind of nothing ain't nothing anymore. "

And later...

Anderson: It sounds like you're arguing that 'nothing' is really a quantum vacuum, and that a quantum vacuum is unstable in such a way as to make the production of matter and space inevitable. But a quantum vacuum has properties. For one, it is subject to the equations of quantum field theory. Why should we think of it as nothing?

Krauss: That would be a legitimate argument if that were all I was arguing. By the way it's a nebulous term to say that something is a quantum vacuum in this way. That's another term that these theologians and philosophers have started using because they don't know what the hell it is, but it makes them sound like they know what they're talking about. When I talk about empty space, I am talking about a quantum vacuum, but when I'm talking about no space whatsoever, I don't see how you can call it a quantum vacuum. It's true that I'm applying the laws of quantum mechanics to it, but I'm applying it to nothing, to literally nothing. No space, no time, nothing. There may have been meta-laws that created it, but how you can call that universe that didn't exist "something" is beyond me. When you go to the level of creating space, you have to argue that if there was no space and no time, there wasn't any pre-existing quantum vacuum. That's a later stage.

Even if you accept this argument that nothing is not nothing, you have to acknowledge that nothing is being used in a philosophical sense. But I don't really give a damn about what "nothing" means to philosophers; I care about the "nothing" of reality. ***And if the "nothing" of reality is full of stuff, then I'll go with that.***
SYnapse (0 DX)
13 Sep 13 UTC
Given the time period, the Bible is remarkable well documented history book. The only thing close in comparison is the Indian stuff like Gilgamesh. Of course it will not stand up to scrutiny 3000 years later, but it is still a remarkable work of literature
SYnapse (0 DX)
13 Sep 13 UTC
Another thing you guys haven't mentioned is that it was a great work of propaganda, recompiled during the Judean revolution against Rome - the book of Revelations for example being one of many "apocalyptic" books written at the time prophesising the downfall of the Roman Empire.
dark_seraph (100 D)
13 Sep 13 UTC
Except SYnapse, if the writers didn't feel something was important, they left it out of the Bible. It's a biased book, even more so than most history books.
SYnapse (0 DX)
13 Sep 13 UTC
The same can be said for almost anything. Herodotus "Histories" is largely biased in similar ways. Or look at our own history. We are told that we (Britain) beat the Nazis and Napoleon, when we really owe a lot of that to Russia. The Americans are told that they won the Space Race, when the U.S.S.R. put the first man in space. We're taught about World War II but not about how the British fired on and destroyed the French fleet in Algeria. etc
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Sep 13 UTC
History is written by the winner. That's no secret. The Bible is not a historic writing, though.

In the modern world, we distort the Bible so wildly through all these crazy interpretations and new sects of religions that we forget to distinguish between what is fiction and what is history. The Old Testament is divided on purpose; for some reason we forget that. The first section includes the supposed creation of the world and all of the fruits of nature. The second includes Moses and the Israelites' journey through the desert and out of slavery to Canaan. The third talks of the kingdom of Israel. It doesn't take too much work to understand that the first two sections here are meant to be metaphorical fiction. (The third is more debatable.)

Here goes -

Adam died at a tragically young age - 930. I can't imagine living such a short life, especially in such a beautiful world that he lived in. I hope that my genetics, which run directly from him, allow me to live to the ripe old age of 2500 like most of my neighbors that moved a few years back. I want to be a multi-millenarian! But unfortunately Adam died so young so I just don't see it happening. If only I were descended from Noah...

But my goodness, I don't know what could have happened in the second section of the Bible. There must have been some rampant disease or something that took Abraham at 175 years old. It's like killing a child! And he must have passed it on; Isaac only lived to 180. Jacob was hardly alive a day before he passed.

Do I have to go further? Can you PLEASE drop the sentiment that the Bible is history? The first two sections are complete metaphor for something - I have my ideas of what, you have yours. That was probably the point of making it so deep, hardly giving us the tip of the iceberg. The third section maybe is historical; King David and all of those other guys in there are real and they actually, you know, died in the 60s and 70s? But come on, man.
dark_seraph (100 D)
14 Sep 13 UTC
You've got the sectioning wrong, bo_sox. It's divided, yes, but not like that. The types of books are the books of Law (the first 5), History, Wisdom, and Prophecy, in that order. The only real historical account in the Bible of anything that documents close to real history, is 1st and 2nd Maccabees, which were about Alexander the Great's conquest of the known world in the historical (1st Mac) and spiritual (2nd Mac) sense. And most protestant bibles leave those books out.

The book of Genesis is written as an explanation for the people of that time, we still use it as truth in Christianity to hold on to some of the vestiges of when Christians were a Jewish sect.

Oh, bo_sox, that's explained in the Bible, sometime in Genesis, I think, I don't know if that's the right book, it says God decided man wouldn't live more than 125 years to slow the spread of evil.
dark_seraph (100 D)
14 Sep 13 UTC
It was definitely some time after all the genealogies in Genesis.
JRKjellen (0 DX)
14 Sep 13 UTC
Beyond confirmation that some characters and places actually existed, the Bible as history is unreliable. For example, the Israelites never conquered Canaanite Ai or Jericho. They couldn't have, Ai and Jericho were long destroyed before Israelites established any kind of presence in Canaan.

There also is no evidence that the Israelite exodus ever took place, nor that Kings David & Solomon ever existed.

philcore (317 D(S))
15 Sep 13 UTC
Synapse, the epic of gilgamesh was sumarian, not Indian. Gilgamesh was Noah. Or the inspiration for Noah. Just as the hammarabi law code was the inspiration for much of leviticus and dueteronomy. Same region, same stories, different god(s). Moses didn't actually find stone tablets from god, he found stone tablets of cunaeiform writing on it from 1000 years earlier written by men, just like him. He was the first archaeologist. But since the people following him around in the desert for 40 years wouldn't understand archaeology, he just told them that god gave them to him.
philcore (317 D(S))
15 Sep 13 UTC
@synapse: " Hey people who hate the Bible so much, how many books have you written?"

That's a great point. I've also never recorded an album, so I guess I have no justification for hating the Jonas brothers, Justin beber, or even Barny the purple dinosaur.

And I've never made a tv show, so I should stop hating on Honey BooBoo, the kardashians, teen mom and Jerry Springer.

I've never run a country, so I should stop hating on Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Sep 13 UTC
@ 'I've never run a country, so I should stop hating on Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot.'

These guys really had it tough! Elected on a campaign promise to bring change, and they really did it! Not to mention the inherent difficulties of doing so...
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Sep 13 UTC
So does repitition help learning? Does repitition help learning?

Or is rote memory a factor in inhibiting open-mindedness?
philcore (317 D(S))
15 Sep 13 UTC
Orth, wrong thread or drunk?
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Sep 13 UTC
This thread clearly asked, why do people read the bible everyday - that is repitition.

I don't get drunk and post on webdip, i get drunk and play with me friends... Maybe fall asleep...
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
15 Sep 13 UTC
I think that is one of the biggest problems ..... denial.
Before you turn the corner you need to be honest to yourself, I think you have a lot of friends here that can help you, that can metaphysically hold your hand, but it's you that have to walk through that door.
Step 1 is honesty, just admitting you have a problem will alleviate a whole world of hurt.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Sep 13 UTC
I've got lots of problems, but posting while drunk isn't one of them.

People not believing that i'm sober is a much more serious problem for me!
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
15 Sep 13 UTC
We hear you Bud ........ waaaasssup !!
philcore (317 D(S))
15 Sep 13 UTC
Orth, the repetition thing was far too removed, contextually, from the OP that I think it is just a cover. You are hiding from the truth. That's no way to get healthy.

Speaking of drunk posting. If anyone has the opportunity to try dogfish head 90 minute imperial IPA, I would recommend doing just that. It's a very nice 9% IPA.
dark_seraph (100 D)
16 Sep 13 UTC
Okay, to answer the OP, people read the bible everyday, but they read it at the beginning to the end, within the span of a year. Every day has a bible reading to go with it in Christianity. They don't reread the passages they read the day before, they just keep moving.
dark_seraph (100 D)
16 Sep 13 UTC
It's a meditation on each part of Scripture prescribed by religious leaders to bring about enlightenment in the form of religious experience.

You gain from it what you *want* to gain from it.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 Sep 13 UTC
I want to gain million of tonnes of gold, will that work?
dark_seraph (100 D)
17 Sep 13 UTC
Spiritually and mentally, you don't get anything physically from it. Unless you're being paid to read from the bible.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
17 Sep 13 UTC
Totally willing to read for cash, maybe i should advertise!


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