Founders: George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and Alexander Hamilton.

President: Ronald Reagan/?/elected

General One: George S. Patton
General Two: Sun Tzu
General Three: Stanley A. McChrystal

Diplomatic Master: Henry Kissinger

Damn. I forgot about naval conflict. Substitute McChrystal for Bill Halsey.

Having read your posts more carefully, obiwan, I have to strenuously disagree with your argument against the Founding Fathers. Sure, they lived in a different time. The point is, they adapted incredibly well to that time, figured it out, understood human nature, and realized how to proceed best at that time.

To suggest that they would fail to do so again because times have changed is to suggest that they only succeeded then because they were unthinking automatons, programmed to take certain actions, and that those actions fortuitously worked at that time. This, with respect, is laughable. There is every reason to think that Hamilton, e.g., would figure out a new time just as well as that time (something he was INCREDIBLY good at), and govern well now, just as he governed well then. Yes, of course, he'd make different specific decisions.

Founders: John Locke, Theodore Roosevelt, Benjamin Franklin, Franklin Roosevelt, Mohandas Gandhi

President: Dwight Eisenhower
First Lady: Eleanor Roosevelt

General: Winfield Scott
General: Sun Tzu
Admiral: Horatio Nelson

Diplomat: George Marshall

For the first time I think I mostly agree with Putin. Churchill, while a great leader in wartime, was extremely arrogant and pro-imperialism in peacetime.

@ ural

Good choices. I would have picked Nimitz or Halsey over Nelson, but your choices are very good otherwise.

Okay - this might be a little cheeky, and my country might not last long, but it sure would be fun.

Founders:
obiwanobiwan
Putin33
Marti the Bruce
semck83
ulytau
Fasces349

President: President Eden (that one was obvious)
First Lady: King Atom


Military Leaders:
Navy: Thucydides
Army: Darwyn
Air Force: Tettleton's Chew

Diplomat-in-Chief: Spyman

Hahaha. You really want TC running your air force and your schoolchildren treating Putin as a hero?

My Dream Team: Founders: 1. Martin Luther -( author of 1543 educational treatise, " On the Jews and Their Lies." A great thinker to shape the morality of my nation. 2. Richard Wagner -(1813-1883) German composer and essayist. Innovative, noted for his operas. His essays provide valuable insight to this great artist. The inspiration for my nation! 3. Henry Ford -(1863-1947) American Industrialist, known for his evolved, progressive thinking. A perfect nation builder. 4. Heinrich Himmler -(1900-1945) German military commander. A martyr for Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the disabled, and many other low-class unfortunates. Quite possibly, one of the coolest people of all time. 5. Joseph Goebbels -(1897-1945) Reich Minister of Propaganda and a martyr for the same dregs as Himmler. It is probable that he regularly sucked Hitler's cock and licked Hitler's balls and asshole. He also let Hitler fuck his wife, and raised Hitler's love-child(until he murdered the little sweetie). In other words, he was livin' the dream, baby! .

President/First Lady: Edward VIII -(1894-1972) Party animal, who would rather let Herr Hitler sort it all out. Wallis Simpson -(1896-1986) Eddie's squeeze. Same qualities PLUS she'd suck everybody's dick.

Military Leaders: 1. Frederick II -(1712-1786) King of Prussia. Frederick the Great. Historically renowned military asskicker. When your nickname is " the Great", you've done something right. 2. Adolf Hitler -(1889-1945) Savior of the World. Heil Hitler! 3. Julius Caesar -(100 B.C.-15 B.C.) Roman general, statesman, and author. IMHO the greatest general of all time.

Diplomat: Pope Benedict XVI -(1927- ) possessing both German and Vatican citizenship, this wise statesman advocates a return to traditional Catholic values.

And diplomat: Klemens Von Metternich
And F*** you mapleleaf

@Kalel: excellent choices for founding fathers, however I disagree with the rest. TC has to be a founding father for this to succeed.

Imagine, me, TC, Putin and Obi in a room trying to write a constitution. LMAO would that be fun.

Hey obi, what do you think of my Dream Nation?

My nation requires only one person to do everything, which is Diplomat 33, except ill need a first lady, yet to be determined.

I think your list is pretty uninspired, mapleleaf!

No room for Jerry Falwell, Fred Phelps, Benito Mussolini, Dr. Mengele as your Surgeon General, maybe (sorry if I spelt the Doc's name wrong, as we've established, I'm jsut a greedy Jew, not a smart one.)

COME ON...

Picking Wagner and Hitler to try and get to a Jew is like picking the Yankees to win the World Series--

Uninspired and lacking in balsiness...

And from how much you go on about "Fag-naur," and the way you keep sending him and myself so many love notes, really, maple, just come out already...

Just admit it, maple.

If you're gonna troll me for internet forum intercourse, AT LEAST raise the quality of your foreplay, man!

(This should be interesting...)

obi...obi...obi...

You disappoint me.

EVERYBODY(except for Caesar) on my list has a Hitler connection.

Hitler makes everything fun. ;0)

But that's my point!

Hitler's too EASY a shot to take!

Step that Anti-Semitism up a knotch, for God's sake, be creative in your crushing of my kike-ness!

ROFL, i can just picture Patton as a Diplomat.

he wouldn't be a good one...

He'd be a great one.

"Now remember:

No bastard ever negotiated peace for his country by dying for it...he did so by making the other bastard do so!"

:p

That's why he would be a great one. We live in an us or them world. He would pick us every time.

@obi - How is my admiration of Hitler antisemitic? It isn't. He was a passionate National Socialist.

I love and admire those of the Jewish faith as well.

Why do you admire Hitler? He was a terrible military leader. If Hitler had been more militarily competent, WWII would have been very different.

Easy!
Founders: Robespierre, Benjamin Franklin, Peron, Ernst Junger, James C. Scott
President/Consort: Vladimir Ulyanov (Lenin) and Wu Zetian
Generals: Lin Biao, Cromwell, Napoleon (sure there's a danger of a coup with all three but it's a risk worth taking)
Diplomat: Talleyrand

I'd wager it would be a really interesting country to live in as well as militarily unbeatable and diplomatically flexible.

i've built my own nightmare nation, i call it Huge Brittain (or Austria if you prefer that one :))
founders: Jack the Ripper (i'd swear "he" didn't work alone :))
rulers: Jack the Ripper 1 and "his" wive (if "he" had one)
military leaders: Hiawatha, Donald Duck and Tarzan
diplomat: Atilla the Hun

any ideas to make this nation even worser??

oh, and Jack the Ripper 1 is not a dictator nor President, the people crowned him to king because he killed the queen of england and with that freed Huge Brittain (Australia)...

and i meant Australia, not Austria...

I revise my entry. All of them are Tettleton's Chew. Founder, President, General, Diplomat, and ESPECIALLY the as-of-yet-unnamed Economic Adviser.

@Gf06 - I don't talk to cops.

Go taze a few 11 year olds. You'll feel better.

"I'd wager it would be a really interesting country to live in as well as militarily unbeatable and diplomatically flexible."
Sun Tzu and Subutai are the 2 greatest geenrals every, neither of which you have.