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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
21 Jun 15 UTC
ODC Round 1 Board 8
has finished. GG to everyone.

Result: Three-way draw between Germany (Valis2501), Austria (guak), and Turkey (MKHAUS).
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retardedarcher (323 D)
20 Jun 15 UTC
World Diplomacy map balance
I'm in two games of World Diplomacy; one as China and the other as USA. Both of these countries have the same problem: They are surrounded by countries, and those countries have no incentive to go anywhere else because all the SC is bordering China/USA, and they don't really have secure SC.

Don't get me started on USA. All the SC a territory away from each other, unable to support. I know it's hard to balance a map for 20 people, but it's ridiculous.
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ILN (100 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
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The Illiberal Persecution of Tim Hunt
http://reason.com/archives/2015/06/13/the-illiberal-persecution-of-tim-hunt
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fulhamish (4134 D)
19 Jun 15 UTC
Homophobia?
On a related, but perhaps more serious note, I see that Stephen Fry and his new husband have at a problem on their Honduran honeymoon.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11672513/Stephen-Frys-honeymoon-wrecked-by-homophobia.html

Shoud they have shown more consideration to local sensibilities? Should we condemn Honduran and by extension, for example, Pakistani, homophobia in the forthright terms we use in the UK or the USA? I am not sure, what do people think?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
19 Jun 15 UTC
Mental illness vs gun rights
"Anyone with a mental illness diagnosis should surrender all of their constitutional rights, right now, rather than at all compromise the right to bear arms of self-declared sane people."

Disuss.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
20 Jun 15 UTC
In between stabbing out eyes and large black tarps
I understand 1st amendment rights allow free speech, and I know censorship is a slippery slope to slimy stalinism, but isn't 'instant coverage' of news causing/accentuating many of the 'racial' issues we have nowadays. what restrictions COULD we put in place???
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
14 Jun 15 UTC
Anyone at Weasel Moot?
I want to hear about it!
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vexlord (231 D)
10 Jun 15 UTC
How to speak in public
New game! public chat, anon, 101 D. 3 day phases so everyone can have a say. If you have never tried it, public chat is a lot of fun. come on in, the water is fine!
gameID=162652
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Best Diplomacy Variant?
**NOTE: I'm sure this has been posted before, so please don't hate if it's the thousandth time you've seen it.**
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Sevyas (973 D)
19 Jun 15 UTC
slow, full press, anon, wta game
Anyone interested?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 Jun 15 UTC
Tipping in Japan
Apparently, not so cool.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
18 Jun 15 UTC
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Christian neighbours outraged by "relentless" gayness.
This caused me to lol

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/woman-criticised-by-christian-neighbours-for-having-a-relentlessly-gay-garden-is-crowdfunding-to-make-her-house-even-gayer-10328310.html
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
17 Jun 15 UTC
New Forum Game: Fallacy Bingo!
See: www.relativelyinteresting.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/logical-and-rhetorical-fallacies-explained.png

Step one: identify a logical/rhetorical fallacy on the front page of the forum.
...
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
18 Jun 15 UTC
"Sounds good buddy!"
http://www.psmag.com/health-and-behavior/diplomacy-detecting-a-coming-betrayal

Researchers use transcripts from online Diplomacy games to identify signs of imminent betrayal.
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The Czech (39715 D(S))
19 Jun 15 UTC
Need England gameID=163146
Need replacement player
gameID=163146
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Mapu (362 D)
18 Jun 15 UTC
Obama gave his 14th statement
Obama has now given 14 statements mourning a mass shooting since he took office. Is there an answer for these events or do we have to accept them as a fact of life?
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krellin (80 DX)
15 Jun 15 UTC
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Ban/Boycott Apple (Human Rights Abuse)
Continuing a long stream of human rights abuses, Apple is identified as a bigoted company again - and with it Apple users who support the company. In willful disregard of feelings, Apple disses the long oppressed Ginger population. Ban/Boycott Apple and Apple Users NOW!!

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/mar/02/petition-calls-for-redhead-emojis
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TrPrado (461 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
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June GR?
Any news on June GR? Is this a sign for integrated GR?
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krellin (80 DX)
17 Jun 15 UTC
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The Sky....
Is **fucking blue***. And other controversies...

I know you (collectively wise) fellow players will have issues with me here....so bring it on...
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EmmaGoldman (1001 D)
16 Jun 15 UTC
new game
Join Bread and Roses, 130 pts bet, classic game, ppsc, anon players and 80% reliability rating to keep down chances of unreliable irritating players
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JamesYanik (548 D)
16 Jun 15 UTC
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I'm starting to like this
There was a thread a little while back, commenting on how Italy has 'no serious chance, in a game of experts, to solo'
JamesYanik (548 D)
16 Jun 15 UTC
Apart from the immediate move to Tyrolia, the Lepanto, and a Piedmont/Tyrrhenian attack, I've found a nice little combination of moves that can help create a strong position for Italy.

Naples -move to- Ionian Sea
Rome -move to- Naples
Venice -support hold- Trieste

Ionian Sea -convoy from- Naples -to- Tunis
Naples -move to- Tunis (via convoy)
Venice -move to- Tyrolia

build army in Venice

Convoy the army to albania, and attack however you'd like with Tyr-Ven. The simple fact is that it isn't too hard to get at least either Russia or Turkey on your side, and it's fairly easy to stake claims on Trieste, as well as either Greece or Vienna. As long as France holds true, it's a decent strategy that can get you quite a few SCs early. Also, the initial support hold from Venice, usually eases Austria (as they begin to believe whatever lies you said about Lepanto-ing)

here are some of my more recent games in which I've tried this tactic out, to some decent level of success.:
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Espi (338 D)
16 Jun 15 UTC
Now we all know your italian moves, woohoo!
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
16 Jun 15 UTC
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Or you could be smart and not attack Austria until Turkey is no longer a threat.
DarkAssassin21 (119 D)
16 Jun 15 UTC
Honestly Italy is my favorite country to play as. It's diplomatic capabilities are beyond everyone else's. Unlike Germany, it can easily go east or west. An alliance with Austria is my favorite one
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
16 Jun 15 UTC
To be honest; people struggle as Italy because the default option in every single game is a Lepanto. Even if you're going West as well, it's still a Lepanto. And that's better for Austria than Italy. Even in Wintergreens people open with a Lepanto half the time.

Think outside the box and Italy is far more fun.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
16 Jun 15 UTC
(NB: thinking outside the box does NOT involve Ven -> Tri in S01. Usually).
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
16 Jun 15 UTC
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Sometimes when playing Italy the right thing to do is the stay still for a turn, and many people are not willing to do so, hence they fail miserably.
wjessop (100 DX)
16 Jun 15 UTC
"the stay still"

I like the sound of that.
wjessop (100 DX)
16 Jun 15 UTC
I agree with the others who said that Italy really is great fun, it has a lot of options and is fairly hard to kill off in the early to early-mid game, which means you get a lot of chances to claw on through the game.

Caution and opportunism seem to sum up what others above have mentioned, and I'd agree that any form of Italy needs to bear both of those in mind.
cb6000 (100 D(S))
16 Jun 15 UTC
Bohemian crusher is my favorite Italian opening...designed to be anti-Austrian....can be anti-German or anti-Russian depending on how the game has gone.

Move to tyr, ven in spring; boh, tyr in fall. Works well with an Austrian ally if he has stomach for it.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
16 Jun 15 UTC
If you can look beyond either A) The Lepanto or B) The Trieste attack, Italy has a lot of great options.

Bohemian Crusher is a bit dodgy, but it can work. I personally prefer those that work with the more distant powers though. The Tyr - Mun, Ven - Pie opening with a brave Germany for a 1902 attack on France through Burgundy is a nice one.

Koniggrantz Freakout is a much better way to hit Austria early on. Also requires a brave Germany though.

The I/T for Greece in 1901

The Blue Water opening (by far the best Lepanto variant out there).

And many others.
ssorenn (0 DX)
16 Jun 15 UTC
I love Italy.
wjessop (100 DX)
16 Jun 15 UTC
ssorenn's all about the love.
ssorenn (0 DX)
16 Jun 15 UTC
You know me so well WJ
wjessop (100 DX)
16 Jun 15 UTC
I know him so well...
ssorenn (0 DX)
16 Jun 15 UTC
HR, I tried to get you to sign off on that once, when I was Italy and you were Germany. We could have killed vashta and you would not have any of it.
ssorenn (0 DX)
16 Jun 15 UTC
WJ, what do you know?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
16 Jun 15 UTC
Extended blue water lepantos where Italy is in the Aegean in 1901 are killer.
captainmeme (1723 DMod)
16 Jun 15 UTC
Not really the point of the topic, I realise, but A Rome-Apulia does everything A Rome-Naples does, but gives you a bit more flexibility with the army - if Austria attacks you, you can give Venice support, whereas you cannot with A Rome-Naples.
ssorenn (0 DX)
16 Jun 15 UTC
(+1)
I agree with the captain.
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
16 Jun 15 UTC
I'm a fan of A Ven - Pied in S1901, especially in gunboat. Good way to neutralize an otherwise powerful France and its very difficult for France to retaliate without going out of his way.

Of course, should France choose to retaliate, you're probably fucked, but hey, such is life.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
16 Jun 15 UTC
Why Rom - Nap instead of the more conventional Rom - Apu?
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
17 Jun 15 UTC
I dislike the French opening unless you're going F-Nap -> Tyr, A-Rom -> Nap, and a hyper aggressive start against the French. It's the only way you can get anywhere without total reliance on German support.
ssorenn (0 DX)
17 Jun 15 UTC
See, I disagree. It takes balls from the Austrian to believe in the Italian. Fleet in Naples takes Tunis from ion. The only time the French see it coming is when two more fleets are built.
uclabb (589 D)
17 Jun 15 UTC
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I strongly disagree that Italy has no chance to solo in a game of experts- Italy is probably third after France and Russia. Being good at Italy is a sign of being a good strategist, as Italy is all about controlling the pace of the game. No one can attack you in 1901, and a good strategist can take that and make it so no one can attack you the whole game. The key thing to realize with Italy is that when no one can attack you, you can take on a position of power in negotiations. Perception is reality when it comes to Italian power
ssorenn (0 DX)
17 Jun 15 UTC
If my man uclabb says it, it must be true +1^
JamesYanik (548 D)
18 Jun 15 UTC
maybe not 3rd, and Russia isn't THAT strong


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orathaic (1009 D(B))
17 Jun 15 UTC
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Satirical newspaper produces political satire
waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/17/first-thing-ill-do-as-president-is-fuck-an-intern-in-the-oval-office-hillary-clinton
That is all.
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KingCyrus (511 D)
16 Jun 15 UTC
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I Saw Something Beautiful Today
Today, I had the privilege of working with a group from the MDA (Muscular Dystrophy Association).
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Hindu_Warrior (100 D)
18 Jun 15 UTC
How to leave a game?
How to leave a game ?
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fulhamish (4134 D)
16 Jun 15 UTC
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Perhaps the world's conspiracy theorists have been right all along
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11671617/Perhaps-the-worlds-conspiracy-theorists-have-been-right-all-along.html

Views?
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
18 Jun 15 UTC
Hot ketchup.. but not like that!
http://rare.us/story/a-man-scanned-a-qr-code-on-a-ketchup-bottle-to-a-enter-a-contest-but-thats-far-from-what-happened/
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ILN (100 D)
16 Jun 15 UTC
Eliminate Gas Tax, Pay Per Mileage Instead
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/pay-roads-bridges-mile-fee

An interesting solution to fixing america's decaying infrastructure, plus it's a system where those that use road infrastructure pay the most, and those that use it the least pay the least; no freeloaders.
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
15 Jun 15 UTC
Game of Thrones Finale
For the Watch.
30 replies
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
16 Jun 15 UTC
Fantasy Fiction Series: Please Recommend
Hi guys, I haven't read much fantasy fiction (or any kind of fiction other than the scholarly peer reviewed kind) in a couple of years. Can you please recommend a completed series or near completed series that is fairly new? Thanks.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
17 Jun 15 UTC
CGP Grey on the UK's recent election
Worst election result ever? CGP seems to think so:
http://youtu.be/r9rGX91rq5I
Disuss.
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