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Great story man.

Republicans don't get points for doing the basics of governing. This focus on the debt ceiling does nothing to solve the real fiscal mess we're in. It does, however, create real risks that the whole rotten edifice of our debt and obligations will crash around us now, not on our terms but on the market's.

Republicans need to cave on the Obamacare defunding. They've already won on budget cuts. They're going to win the long game on Obamacare since it's such a disaster in practice. But this behavior of shutting down the government and opening up the possibility of default is wholly irresponsible. The Congressional party need to lose this and get entirely new leadership. Speaker Ryan by the end of the year is my bet. The ideologues have had their run at strategy and it's been the disaster sober Republicans have said from the get-go.


People like krellin may cling to Cruz-style magical thinking, but in reality this is the wake-up call for the adults (the still deeply conservative adults) to get back in charge of the party. Only an embarrassing defeat like what's coming in the next 9 days can make the kooky caucus lose its grip. Like I say, get ready for Speaker Ryan and a more likely Chris Christie nomination, since Paul and Rubio are tarred by this debacle.

I believe the correct thread for bullshit about the sequester is this one: threadID=1056983

you guys dont know anything about hockey sticks
yet again the media consumers lack really basic facts
and cannot make informed decisions on their own

the original ipcc report showed world temperatures historical and present
it was in the shape of a hockey stick
there was no temperature change for hundreds of years or something
and then in the last ten or twenty years it just spiked up
it is called a hockey stick because of the shape

now somebody questioned the graph
because it seemed to make no sense at all to anyone with common sense

now there was a model created that generated this graph
given input - recorded temperatures, atmospheric co2, etc

the model, needless to say, failed the test miserably.
in fact, it was shown that even if you put completely random data
it still generates the same hockey stick
it generates that temperature graph independent of what is put in

in reality temperatures were always changing
and the warming period that ended 10 or 20 years ago
was not special in any way.

but this piece of fraud got into academia
and you have subsequent papers citing it
just like you have all those papers citing the results
from the climategate team
or anything else.
you have bs building on top of bs...

but this has to be one of the most blatant examples of fraud
and you guys do not even know about it

terrible. how did this get in the wrong thread? ah whatever, enjoy it whatever thread it is in it is still gold

I'm gonna +1 that for humor ^

source blankflag?

just do a google search, this was the first result
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_stick_controversy

kind of funny, the wikipedia propaganda
they have no picture of the actual hockey stick graph
in the article about the hockey stick controversy

the top graph is what the original (first) ipcc report graph looked like
http://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/hockey-stick-comparison.gif