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blankflag (0 DX)
17 Apr 13 UTC
gmo gene silencing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FI7n_caiTvE#! is there anything to this?
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datapolitical (100 D)
10 Apr 13 UTC
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Blankflag's website
I honestly think blankflag's personality and website are just one massive troll, perhaps even on himself. The alternative is a little bit too horrifying to comprehend.
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2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
11 Apr 13 UTC
Group D-5 GT EOG
My thoughts on the deciding game of group D, gameID=110162.

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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
16 Apr 13 UTC
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Area 51 1/2
Even though everyone thinks that there is suspicious activity in Area 51, the real action is at Area 51 1/2, where Elvis, Michael Jackson, and everyone who has "disapeared" go to. They are hidden at Area 51 1/2, which is located at the East Pole in the Southwest Pacific.

And yes, Elvis and Michael Jackson are alive, just like the Wizard of Ox (not a typo) and the Truth Fairy are as well. Don't question me.
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SplitDiplomat (101466 D)
16 Apr 13 UTC
Gunboat challenge
gameID=115271 has one wild card.The participants joined till now are:2WhiteLine,Lando,Barn3tt,Fairfax and myself.The sixth player most probably will be The Czech,I'm sure he'll join it as soon as he gets online.Based on interest shown the wild card will be given to the best positioned gunboater.So among these players:
4.Partysane,6.CSteinhardt,7.cspieker,15.guak,16.thatwasawkward and so on
the wild card goes to...?
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dubmdell (556 D)
30 Mar 13 UTC
EOG Game 16 Around the World Gunboat Tournament
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dubmdell (556 D)
23 Mar 13 UTC
EOG: Game 10 Around the World Map Gunboart Tournament
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
15 Apr 13 UTC
How much money do you need to live from rents without a job?
Bit of reasoning with it would be nice. Just curious what you guys think.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
16 Apr 13 UTC
Area 51
It does exist, does it? So what are they doing there? Is there an official statement on what they're doing there or is it classified? Or what?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
16 Apr 13 UTC
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Boston Marathon Bombing/Explosion Take 2
Blankflag, keep out.
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dipplayer2004 (1110 D)
16 Apr 13 UTC
Takeover opportunity
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=114568
Need someone to take over Argentina.
Decent position, interesting situation
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blankflag (0 DX)
16 Apr 13 UTC
ber->mun + mun->ruhr + kiel->hol = pro
i came across this game and cant help but sit in awe at germanys mastery of the game. i dont think ive ever seen anything like it gameID=115218 did it give anyone else an erection lasting over 3hrs?
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
16 Apr 13 UTC
Colonial Diplomacy
It says "present but not active." Can we please re-activate it? It is my all-time favorite variant and it was even a retail one for a time. It seems like a very viable option for play.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Apr 13 UTC
Spring 2013 leagues.
https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/The-php-League/leagues-spring-2013
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I == G-Sim (283 D)
16 Apr 13 UTC
Has anyone ever seen this move made in spring of the last turn?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=113386&msgCountryID=0

I was France and the three of us executed quite a beautiful western triple in a public press only game. I think the idea was proposed to the entire board in 1902 and met little resistance except for maybe turkey in the Mediterranean.
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Halt (270 D)
16 Apr 13 UTC
Featured Games
What's a featured game? What makes it special aside from a high buy in?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
11 Apr 13 UTC
Mild Weather We're Having
Hey guys! It's -2ºC in Reykjavik right now! How's the weather where you are? Try to include the temperature in the city you're in (and please tell state/territory/province/country as well).

(P.S. - this is actually remotely important to me. I was told to ask real people so weather.com isn't an option.)
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jimgov (219 D(B))
14 Apr 13 UTC
Gunboat for people with a brain
gameID=115165 Since HumanWave has complained about his gunboat games, I've decided to set him up with a good one. Of course, he is invited. And I hope that Split and The Czech will join. I'm sending all three of you the password. If anyone else that is good wants in, just PM me. I will post the player list before we start.
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Omagunagitya (426 D)
15 Apr 13 UTC
Gunboat
There's gotta be 6 other people out there that meet these conditions:
A. want to play gunboat
B. have 3 hours
C. cant do anything about what happened in Boston
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Dejan0707 (1608 D)
14 Apr 13 UTC
Italy - The Exception
"Italy - With Italy we come to the exception - the one area in which it is generally agreed that the admirable balance of Diplomacy breaks down. Italy does not have as good a chance of winning as the other six countries." - Quote from Richard Sharp book called diplomacy.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
15 Apr 13 UTC
Boroughs F2F Cancelled
Not that many people care, but I'm a bit too busy at the moment to host this. Will try again when I have more time to prepare.
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guak (3381 D)
15 Apr 13 UTC
Sitter needed
Need a sitter for live game. Has gone for too long and I need to leave. My mobile phone does not support mobile webdip so wont be able to log in more orders. Important position in the game. Thanks to anyone that can help
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jimgov (219 D(B))
12 Apr 13 UTC
Another Global warming study?
http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/11/17708881-where-did-global-warming-go-the-deep-ocean-experts-say?lite
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/grl.50382/abstract

Just to see how many forum members' heads will explode.
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KoiL (100 D)
25 Mar 13 UTC
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Behold 9/11
First top 5 reasons I believe 9/11 is a conspiracy.
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SunZi (1275 D)
26 Mar 13 UTC
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@blankflag "..they havent yet closed down free speech online so they have to counter the truth with a load of nonsense."

Have you ever wondered if maybe all the 9/11 conspiracy theories are part of the nonsense designed to distract people from what's really going on?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Mar 13 UTC
The conspiracies are - shocking - conspiracies. They don't mean shit.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
27 Mar 13 UTC
@ spyman

You should encourage KoiL to join some games. He's got an account, he should play if he has the time.
blankflag (0 DX)
27 Mar 13 UTC
sunzi - what are you talking about *conspiracy theory*? i am talking about figuring out what happened on 9/11. it is never a distraction to come up with what really happened.
and whoever was asking what could they possibly gain from it, well what did they possibly gain from all those gladio part a bombings in europe? you realize they are not always perfect. even though most of their actions remain covert, gladio in italy at least was partly uncovered. i guess the politicians decided they had enough of hiding the truth about government involvement in bombing civilians in their own country.
so if you had heard someone say *oh you know those bombings in italy that killed all those civilians and children, you know nato was behind them with the cooperation of the italian government?* would you have called that a conspiracy? yes. statements like *the conspiracies are - shocking - conspiracies* dont convince me.
blankflag (0 DX)
27 Mar 13 UTC
anyway if you want to find out the truth look into some independent media like boiling frogs post... or james corbett. those are ok. or maybe some people on republic broadcasting... like michael rivero or something. just dont watch bs disinfo likely put out by the conspirators themselves or at least helped by them. like loose change or that piece of garbage called zeitgeist or any other crap like that.
KoiL (100 D)
27 Mar 13 UTC
Gunfighter I might bother myself to answer later, but It's ended for spyman & myself.

You'll love this I'm sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4yGICFsi8
Tolstoy (1962 D)
27 Mar 13 UTC
"The conspiracies are - shocking - conspiracies. They don't mean shit."

'To conspire' means "to breath together". It suggests a plot worked by more than one person, which is exactly what the government and media claims happened in the plot which culminated in the deaths of 3,000 people on September 11th 2001. The official explanation constitutes a literal "conspiracy theory".

I find it fascinating that many (probably even most) believe one set of conspiracy theories - those proposed by the media, government, and other authorities - to be gospel truth that can't be questioned without severe annoyance, but believe that any other conspiracy theory simply cannot be true. I wonder how closely this tracks with the percentage of the population willing to electrocute someone on the orders of someone dressed in a doctor's costume as demonstrated by the Milgram Experiment.
spyman (424 D(G))
27 Mar 13 UTC
I watched the video KoiL. It ridicules anyone who tries to debunk 9/11 conspiracy claims.

Since you have posted a few my times since I thought we stopped I shall slip one more post in. I am not introducing new material; I going to expand one of the points that I made.

The thing is this: It is pretty much impossible to prove, categorically, that there was not/ is not a conspiracy around 9/11. This is because it is impossible to prove a universal negative.

For example: You can't prove that the US government is NOT controlled by aliens (from outer space). For all we know the aliens might be invisible and might have planted devices inside the brains of the president and his staff, devices which are nearly impossible to detect, and that the hosts are unaware of, and that control the hosts actions.

Given the outrageous nature of the Truthers' claims, the onus is on the Truthers to prove their case. I will concede that Truthers don't have to show their case is certainly true, merely they must demonstrate that their theory is more likely to be true than competing theories (that is, the debunkers' theory).

The same principle applies to the debunkers. The debunkers don't have to absolutely prove that Truthers are wrongs, merely that the Truthers' are unlikely to be right, given the evidence before us.

Going back to your point about the collapse of the towers and the way it resembles a controlled demolition... okay you haven't actually spelled that out yet, but you have said that there is no way the building were brought down by the airplanes and the resulting fire.

Your first point supporting this argument is that the no skyscraper has ever collapsed in this way (resembling a controlled demolition) before. Your claim is that this shows that there MUST be another cause. Note the emphasis on the word MUST. If this word is too strong for you, then we shall define MUST to mean more likely to be true than false.

I don't have to show, in my rebuttal of this point, that the Truthers' whole theory is wrong. That is not what I am trying to achieve. I don't pretend that the Truthers' argument is dead in the water at this point. All I need to show is that your claim that their MUST be another cause is false. All I have to show is that it is PLAUSIBLE that, even though the event was unprecedented, that the building COULD HAVE collapsed because of the planes and the ensuing fire.

We know that the planes + fire = collapse theory is plausible because the facts are their for all to see -- including engineers from all around the word. And guess what, most think it is indeed plausible. Yes there is a minority of Architects and Engineers who disagree (apparently). But that is okay. I am not trying to prove the buildings were destroyed by the plane and fire (at this juncture anyway), merely that would not be impossible for the buildings to have been destroyed by the planes and fire. That planes + fire = collapse is PLAUSIBLE.

Now we all know about the planes and the fire. We have proof that they exist. Thus if we are talking about causes, the pendulum of probability swings toward the official story and away from the Truthers. At this point at least.

Now KoiL you said that I had failed to rebut your point. I don't know why you said this because my rebuttal was there in green and white text for you to read. I assume that you mean that I had failed to PROVE the Truthers' wrong. If this is the case, you misunderstood what I was doing. I was not, at this point proving the Truthers' wrong about their whole theory, merely that your point that their MUST have been another cause is clearly false. There MIGHT have been another cause, but certainly not MUST. You need to present more evidence.

Now KoiL do you still maintain that I failed to rebut your point?
KoiL (100 D)
27 Mar 13 UTC
spyman. "I watched the video KoiL. It ridicules anyone who tries to debunk 9/11 conspiracy claims."

Sure but it does it with the debunker arguments :)

Where' your sense of humour lately matey? lolz
I'll take in the other part of the post, but in answering it means
KoiL (100 D)
01 Apr 13 UTC
Yes I had thought we'd finished, so I'll just answer your points lastly then.

You say: "The thing is this: It is pretty much impossible to prove, categorically, that there was not/ is not a conspiracy around 9/11. This is because it is impossible to prove a universal negative."
Your assuming this question is a universal negative like proving the existence of God. It’s actually quite simple to prove a universal negative or the non-existence of anything. All you would need to do is demonstrate a logical contradiction within the universal claim. Atheist use it all the time. You're doing it here.

Your saying then that it is seen as faith based to claim that any of these points/facts do not exist. Are you saying that its logically flawed because it's impossible to prove a negative, or perhaps more intellectually honest to say otherwise?

Truthers aren't looking to prove Aliens control the US Govt. Spyman lolz. (It's like you've read the handbook on how to debunk) Like me their stating that to believe your story. There would need to be 26 storeys of pan-caked floors after the collapse. Not dust, and molten metal that remained burning for weeks after the event. Even if I was to except your proposition that it was an unprecedented event, and that planes + fire brought the Towers down. The fact remains Building 7 was not hit by an airliner. Also to except the internal collapse theory of that building which you support. One needs to ignore the computer modelling of that theory. In that the corners fall in on themselves. When the footage clearly showers a symmetrical decent. At free-fall btw. As in NO resistance. Exactly like the Towers collapse. How people on mass refuse these simple facts are as frightening as the event itself!

But your right, If you cannot discern the difference between what the Govt. scripted/popular theory is vs. what is and of itself quite obvious. Then my conclusion is that it is the most unbelievable set of coincidences since the spark of life itself, and therefore agree with you.
You would also expect me to believe people can tell the future. Such as multiple first responders remarking on video camera about B7 that "the building was coming down", and to "Move back!" See link below. Even Occam's razor suggests they knew it was coming down because their superiors told them it would.

Just a throw away thought here, but Building 4,5,6 where all standing after having the towers fall on them, and were gutted by fire. Yet they still stood there in the aftermath. Coincidence again I guess.

As for why would they need to do it? Look at the tenets. All the major players in the conspiracy itself. Dept of Defence. F.E.M.A. The Secert Service the CIA for example. What better way to clean away any evidence. The SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission). Who held all the documents of hundreds of upcoming corporate law suits. One in particular is the $70 billion fraud by ENRON. Why would they need to do all of this at all? How about control of the 2nd largest oil deposit on the planet in Iraq as a glaring motive? It's like a waste of any further time on that other than to say the owners had only recently reinforced the building. http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_07.htm
It was also the 'bunker' for the New Yorks Mayor's Dept. yet after getting there once the attacks commenced they were asked to move to another building. This was before any fires were reported in Building 7. On the walk from B7. Giuliani is quoted on film as saying. "The Trade Centre Towers were coming down". See link below. Is it another amazing ability for the Mayor to read the future, or just another coincidence among the many that keep the official story alive.

If this short video does rock you. You'll never be moved. This is about Flight 93. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUzrHHDu96U&list=FL2AxnnctuKbgRFCTPOrQj4Q&index=8

News to hand 911 author of 2 books found dead in an apparent murder/suicide along with his teenage children & family dog. http://leaksource.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/the-mysterious-death-of-911-conspiracy-author-and-expert-pilot-philip-marshall/
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2013/03/mini-me-murder-of-911-author-former-pilot-and-kids-and-dog/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWEEXEjW90&list=FL2AxnnctuKbgRFCTPOrQj4Q&index=7

He was a pilot who ran drug missions for the CIA, and turned whistleblower. He bragged he had new damming evidence for an inside job. As of last week rubbed out. What I expect to hear from mainstream media is that he was a bad man. Beat his wife. Killed his children to hurt his wife. on and on blah blah. His friends say he was enjoying life, and looking forward to the publication of his next book. We'll never know will we, or will we? And around and around we go.

The truth is there. It's simply that most refuse to see it. Even when it's in their faces. To except anything other than the official story is just too brain numbing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFidciVopu4&list=FL2AxnnctuKbgRFCTPOrQj4Q&index=3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWZELJA_fSU&list=FL2AxnnctuKbgRFCTPOrQj4Q&index=4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ySUrEiVFIM&list=FL2AxnnctuKbgRFCTPOrQj4Q
blankflag (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
consider the following http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3leCgi_xYHA&feature=player_embedded
but it is 10 minutes long.
but you can stop watching when he starts talking about religion and atheism.
blankflag (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
so i was watching ryan dawsons 911 documentary. and he came up with a good historical example of what is going on now. apparently britain wanted to win economically the seas, but couldnt afford to have a lot of wars, so they would hire 'privateers' - pirates who were secretly connected to the british aristocracy. they would only attack ships from other countries and would be secretly paid off by the british elites.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
This just reminded me of the onions view of the 9/11 conspiracy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_OIXfkXEj0
blankflag (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
and how about those anthrax attacks?

conspiracy - it came from a us bioweapons lab.

and then - admitted true.

then some guy who doesnt socialize much in the lab is claimed to have done everything on his own. then before trial he dies of a tylenol overdose. then somebody else goes public with proof that he couldnt have done it. then he also dies.

and that guy was very sneaky putting 'death to america' 'death to israel' 'praise allah' in the letters.

so could this have intelligence agency involvement since just a few people died and just a bit of terrorism? since you all cant believe thousands of american deaths could be by the intellingence agencies.
FlemGem (1297 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
@ blankflag - there wasn't anything "secret" about privateers. Privateering was part of warfare back then, and every major power used privateers. The payoff was not secret at all - there were written contracts and official permission granted by the government - called "letters of marque and reprisal". The US constitution allows the US government to issue letters of marque and reprisal, and the US used privateers in both the Revolution and the War of 1812 - I would guess that privateers made up the largest part of our naval warfare capabilities during those wars, though I can't say that for a fact. Now I believe international law may have banned use of privateers - anyone else out there know for sure?
blankflag (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
i am talking about when they were using them outside of wartime obviously
blankflag (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
actually at flem gem, i dont think you are getting the analogy

in the privateer example, there were two groups
1. the public including people working on ships and british low ranking military
2. the elite aristocracy and spies
these groups existed in all countries.
now in britain, they wanted full control over when they went to war so they didnt want to know spain was attacking their ships unless they decided it was time for a war. same as all the other countries.
so group 1. were lied to. they believed that pirates were evil doers who were just radical anti-state actors. they believed the propaganda that was fed to them.
group 2 knew full well what was happening but just fed propaganda to the public.

if people working on ships knew spain had killed their friends, they would have demanded a war.

and there is an additional benefit that corrupt people in group 2 could use this covert power to help out ships they had financial interest in while attacking other ships.


now lets compare that to 911.
there are two groups
1. the public including people working at wtc, rescue workers, low-ranking us military, etc
2. the elite and spies
german high-ranking spies know just as well that al qaeda as an independent organization pulling this all off themselves is bogus, the same way the spanish high ranking officials knew the independent pirates going around outside of any state power was bogus.
it is really only group 1, the television audience who doesnt know what it happening.
HumanWave (337 D)
10 Apr 13 UTC
So sad people need to fill their empty lives with this drivel. I guess the titanic couldn't have been sunk by an iceberg because the architect stated it was "unsinkable" (this relies on the fact the architect really said that about the WTC which I severely doubt)
Fasces349 (0 DX)
10 Apr 13 UTC
@Blankflag: I don't think you fully understand what a privateer is. Privateers were essentially mercenaries. As flem pointed out they were used during wartime (not peace time). What the letters of marque and reprisal did, was commissioned private companies (hence the name privateers) to assist in the war.

The privateers job was to capture enemy ships and enemy admirals, to which he would then sell to his commissioner for a profit. Or to steal cargo from enemy merchant.

Privateers would be absolutely useless in the example you give. There is no profit for a pirate in attacking an enemy warship, they go after merchants. Privateers didn't exist during peace time, because it didn't make sense for them to exist during peace time. You don't attack foreign merchants during peacetime because otherwise that country will start attacking your merchants (or declare war on you). You attack them during wartime because you don't want the enemy to make a profit. Also the royal navy back then was the most feared force on the planet, there are stories of Portuguese and Dutch merchants flying the Union Jack, rather then the flag of there respective nations, to deter pirates, as most pirates would avoid British ships like the plague, to avoid stumbling upon the British navy. Had the aristocracy found out that one of their merchants been sunk by the French or Spanish, the British would have demanded repercussions and would have gotten them.

The French and Americans were the most frequent users as they were a way to combat the royal navy, as it was far cheaper and easier to recruit privateers then actually build, maintain and supply a frigate.
blankflag (0 DX)
10 Apr 13 UTC
ok maybe it is semantics. but what i am saying is that in peacetime the british would support pirates who would rob from ships that were not british, and claim to everyone and to other nations that they had nothing to do with it. and when they did manage to "catch" those pirates they would execute some of them and deny responsibility.

maybe you are using some propaganda definition that says this only happened in wartime and the public was fully aware of the relatitionships, but that is not the case.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
10 Apr 13 UTC
The British navy would protect British ships and would only defend British trade routes (or those of other countries that they happened to stumble upon), not those of other countries, but a pirate is not a privateer and just because the British didn't go out of there way to protect Spanish merchants, it doesn't mean that they supported piracy against the Spanish.
blankflag (0 DX)
12 Apr 13 UTC
yes but they did. speaking of 9/11 i am watching colbert and clinton. what is the deal with this "clinton global initiative university" 9/11 symbolism, anyway?
blankflag (0 DX)
12 Apr 13 UTC
you can see the logo at the top-left of this site
http://www.cgiu.org/
HumanWave (337 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Do you actually believe that you are intelligent or is pretending to be on this site some kind of coping mechanism
blankflag (0 DX)
15 Apr 13 UTC
on the topic of conspiracy i had nothing to do so i read the now locked thread on conspiracy that i had commented on but didnt fully read. did several members of this site seriously put down that bigfoot could exist? if they were not joking then that is a tipoff that there is something funny going on here. nobody believes in that. it is only used as the most comical theory to use to lump together with people who start to question coverups.


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blankflag (0 DX)
15 Apr 13 UTC
variants
is ancient medeteranean (i cant spell) a popular variant for less than 7 players? what about south america? i heard its better
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blankflag (0 DX)
13 Apr 13 UTC
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why is stock market price the measure of economic performance
of course the elites like it because they own most of the stock market, but how effective has their propaganda campaign equating stock prices with economic performace been on the average man?
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Captain Canuck (178 D)
14 Apr 13 UTC
Who do I contact when I suspect "Foul Play"?
I suspect a multiple user in a particular game. Who do I contact to check it out?
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twinsnation (503 D(B))
14 Apr 13 UTC
passwords
Please send me password for euroopa, and wheedes wond world. i would like to join game
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jimgov (219 D(B))
13 Apr 13 UTC
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New, fun drinking game
New drinking game everyone! Every time blank says some form of the word "elite," you take a drink. I plan on being absolutely hammered before nightfall. Whose with me?
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HumanWave (337 D)
14 Apr 13 UTC
Distressing gunboat tendency
I'm new here but i thought I'd give my thoughts about gunboats thus far
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