Computer hacking ...... what a great story, it's just like the REAL world.
We've got a computer hacker in the UK who hacked the Pentagons computer system (or was it NASA) looking for aliens.
Of course the UK govt won't allow him to be extradited from the UK to face justice because he is white...... and he's got problems.
I demand justice.

It's shocking, isn't it Nigs? It's almost as if the government were listening to overwhelming public opinion!

Yes but not U.S. public opinion.and the UK public are biased against Americans
If only the govt had listened to public opinion on the economy we wouldn't be heading for a triple-dip recession

Britain's the most isolated place in the world economically. If they hadn't listened to public opinion, they'd have been in the EU and would *already* be in a triple-dip recession.

We are in the EU :-)

..... but we don't have the EURO

Nod, Nod wink, wink - I wonder if the guy we didn't extradite is now working for the UK government?

I have no inside information to support this rediculous idea so don't ask me how I dreamed up such a fanciful notion as I've said too much already

Separating monetary and fiscal integration (i.e. have one without the other) was never going to work and so it has proved, it was an economic failure waiting to happen but it was delayed by an extended period of economic growth that masked the issues but they were still there.

The British don't have the EURO
but since friday they also don't have a TRIPLE A RATING.

Ow dear.

Leave it our Johann our Chancellor is a miracle-worker, and humble with it. An all-round lovely guy doing wonders for the UK economy using super-advanced economic strategies/concepts that other modern economies discarded years ago.
we call the current strategy the Dad's Army approach.
Put on a hard hat, don't panic, just 'Keep Calm and Carry On'.
Who do you think you are kidding Mrs Merkel, if you think we're on the run.....

NigeeBaby and Octavious: I don't know much about this story, but you will probably find this case of British extradition interesting:
http://www.newstatesman.com/2013/02/impossible-injustice-talha-ahsans-extradition-and-detention

Case in point, the whole world's main economic sources are all crashing and Britain is *last* to experience anything. That is a good sign.

@ JECE - I know of this case but you know what, we have a govt that is comfortable with the situation. It looks like a huge miscarriage of justice but really who cares, not the people who matter ..... what price justice when politicians get involved.

@ Redhouse

We have two AAA ratings, in fact. Moody's given us an AA1, but variety is the spice of life ;).

@ JECE: I confess I don't find British extradition law particularly interesting. It's a tedious and murky area that needs cleaning up, but not one that I have any enthusiasm for. Politicians, as always, get motivated when massive public opinion pushes them, as in the hacking case Nigee mentioned. There is some debate on whether the power to make an intervention should be in the hands of Ministers, and I'm not sure where I stand on it.

The temptation is to take the case of a white chap and a Muslim having different experiences and jump on a racism bandwagon. I suspect the truth is simply that the parents of Gary McKinnon were far better at running a publicity campaign. Generally victims of the extradition treaty come from all races and backgrounds.

@Santa - I asked the question because of this exchange:

Yellowjacket (840 )
11:37 PM
I disagree with this decision. Hacking into another player's account is well within the spirit of diplomacy.


semck83 (226 )
11:39 PM
True, YJ, but only if you're in the game.

For anyone who cares...
@Lee, no, I'm not married, not even with Azogar. But we were friends, some time ago. That's sad and bitter.
As Jmo explained, I changed my password (I always do when someone sits for my account) but I didn't think about the consequences of using Azogar's mobile connection for once (so, we're not dealing with sitting...). Thus, I never allowed him to use my account, THREE MONTHS AFTER, even if my fault ended up giving him the chance.

None of us have ever worried about someone using our account without permission. I have never once worried about a hacker. Hell, I've never even worried about a key logger here. There's no reason to put a tad bit of blame on BreathOfVega here for doing the same thing we all do - not worrying and not thinking about it.

Yeah, BoV is definitely a victim, not someone to blame.

Thanks. I'm not used to worry when I am playing and having fun. If I did, I'd probably stop having fun.
I am going to take a break for a bit (not that this is of any interest for you), but I am at least glad that you won't consider it was my doing anymore.

It wasn't your doing in the first place. That was quite obvious if you managed to ignore the rumors and simply looked at the map. I was skeptical but I don't recall a time when I thought it was simply you jacking the game up.

While nobody is going to ensure that this kind of thing can't happen anymore, it might be worthwhile to put some serious effort behind stopping any chance of this again. Maybe it would be worthwhile to automatically log a player out if they've been online for a certain period of time (let's just say a week for simplicity's sake).

@bo - They said kestas had changed something so this technique will not happen again (assuming it was a "keep me logged in" login from before a password change used to do the dirty deed).

@BoV - Anyone blaming you would be like blaming the owner of a house that was burglared because he didn't have the latest state of the art security system. You were the unlucky first victim of a loophole in the security.

Draug and bo: I thank you again. But since I KNOW that it's elementary to log off when using others' connection, I know that I am partially at fault for giving him the chance to hack my account. What it's bitter is that I did not really expect him to do it.

If I left my house's door opened, I would blame myself if something happened. That's aside blaming the burglar, of course.

Anyway, when I say "you won't blame me for it" I mean you as a site. I can't play full press with my english, but I am quite interested in keeping my name clean, at least.

@BoV .. if you lived in certain places, leaving your house door open wouldn't be terribly out of the ordinary. Sounds crazy to us, but the point is that this really is one of those places. I would never expect someone to walk in even if it was open on this site.

@Draug .. yeah, I know, I saw that. I'm just looking to take the precautions necessary to cover anything in the future. Like they say, you can't beat a felon by chasing them till they get tired; you have to get ahead of them at some point.

I'm sure KEstas thought it through and not only closed that loophole but half a dozen other ways he thought it might be hackable.

@bo

There are standard ways of preventing this sort of thing that are more than adequate for this site. I'm sure Kestas is already on it. There's no need to implement crazy "security" features that inconvenience players and don't actually add any security.

abge, this is sort of my go-to image for bo_sox these days.
http://i.imgur.com/U9mt72m.png