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LegatusMentiri (100 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
the ultimate nation building diplomacy war game?
You have been charged to design the next big strategy game. What do you put in it?
Fighting.
LegatusMentiri (100 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Of course, but what kind of fighting? Turn based wars or real time? Complex technology trees or simple ones?
No technology tree, no turns. The game consists of two people hitting each other in the face with rocks over and over until one loses consciousness. The "strategy" part is in figuring out which rocks to use.

Try this at home.
LegatusMentiri (100 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Hmmm, well THAT was awkward.
Tyran (914 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Real time and complex trees like command and conquer
The Magician (120 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
1. It would be a board game. I like human interaction best in person. I only come here because it takes a herculean effort to get a board game of diplomacy together.

2. Turn based. Gives you time to talk and eat pizza.

3. No tech tree, but should have several unit to choose from. Why? because...

4. There should be Multiple paths to victory. the thing I hate with most games is that after a while you discover there's one best strategy to employ in order to win. I want three or four equally good paths to winning. not four different victory conditions like in Civ 4 or Illuminati the card game but four different strategies.

5. Something that takes about an hour to play. I like hard games but other poeple have limited brains.

6. Not a conquest game. Again, I like them, but women don't and I have female friends and would like them to play.
Competing tribes of Kardashians.
The Magician (120 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Wait a few more things.

7. A game that rewards strategic thinking and minimizes luck.

8. A game where a large number of stupid people can't just hang up on the smartest person.
LegatusMentiri (100 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Magician, i can truly appreciate your desire for a board game you can play with women, but it's a little hard for a programmer to make a board game well.
LegatusMentiri (100 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
@hanged man - now THAT would probably sell quote well!
Yes, Kardashians are very quotable.
I'll put Obama in it.

Wait, now the game's ruined.
Tyran (914 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Stupid people....sigh
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
09 Aug 12 UTC
The rules should be simple. I hate any game where you have to constantly consult the rulebook or decide on ambiguity in game design. Have a simple goal with many straightforward ways of achieving that goal. Above all else, keep it easy to learn, but difficult to master.

Oh, and make CDs illegal :)
On a more realistic note, I have actually created a semi-board game I like to call "European Crisis".

I used some flags (national flags for ARMIES, naval jacks for NAVIES, and air force icons for AIR FORCE) and placed them on a map of Europe (from the mid-Atlantic to mid-Russia) that was published by National Geographic in 1975, so there's East/West Germany and the USSR.

Either way, it involved something like 60 or so countries (not all European; I also added in African and Middle Eastern countries. Only the tip of Africa can be seen from the far-out European map, so I have to flip to a different page to get a map of Africa and continue from there.

Anyways, there were 60 countries but I could only get 6 players max so I we left some countries out (mostly African) and each player got 7 countries with special rules:
a) they were not allowed to ally
b) they were not allowed to support each other unless in real life they are allies

It was very complex and fun. There was diplomacy, pacts, battles, wars, campaigns, a United Nations-like organization called "NOW", which stood for "Nations Of (the) World".

The rules were basic: it was turn-based and each player was allowed one order per flag (unit). The unit could either battle another unit that was less than or 1" away or it could move 1". Like Diplomacy, support moving/holding was essential. Another army about 1" away can support the other army, dislodging the enemy army. If an enemy army is dislodged 7 times, then it is "destroyed", which it is removed.

It is fun yet complex. Sorry for poor explaining, this game is nearly impossible to explain.
The Magician (120 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
If a programmer can't make a board game, what good are they? Kill them all, I say and get me someone who can make a board game.
LegatusMentiri (100 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Well let new rephrase that, i hadn't planned on making a board game when i started this thread. And i definitely would beat a disadvantage since i only have experience with the electronic world.
There's a couple of games I'd love to play:

1. Turn by turn WWII type game with at least seven players (France, Germany, Italy, Japan, UK, US, USSR, China would make a nice 8th) daily turns, ideally, control of units down to at least division sized, that affords me strategic control, and no fixed diplomacy, but perhaps subject to certain preexistent conditions (e.g., US can't enter into the war until attacked). It would be fascinating to game out some scenarios, especially for Japan (like invading Siberia or not attacking US possessions in the Pacific until after the rest of the colonial powers get knocked out of Asia); ludicrously complex, but fascinating.

2. A game that really, really accurately represents guerilla warfare.
kaner406 (356 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
A ''city'' building exercise, but in this case the city is a virtual representation of your you country.
It starts out preindustrial times, and you need to 'build' your region
Simultaneous turn based
Different tech choices according to goverment / economic plan
Population growth steady, and at some point the population will no longer be able to be sustained.
The player whose 'city-state' collapses the last & with least damage wins.
LegatusMentiri (100 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Interesting thoughts though wouldn't it be better to go back to the creations of the war? What if the Japanese had supported an Indian revolt against England?
LegatusMentiri (100 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
@kaner - interesting concept. How about we take it further and the players represent political factions in this city state? They quarrel for control between what is right for now and right for long term.
I'd like to see something very geographically focused. Neighborhoods, rather than nation-states, fighting. Like Santa Monica vs. Long Beach (Los Angeles); Hell's Kitchen vs. Greenwich Village (NYC); Knightsbridge v. Chelsea (London); etc. Reenactments of WW2 or other real major historical battles/geopolitical settings are tired.
kaner406 (356 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
@LM - The important factor would be the end-game collapse. The collapse could be triggered a number of ways. Anyway it's a pet concept of mine for a board-game (something like Alhambra, or Porto Rico), but you could easily transfer it into a computer program. Set each playing into the same city - bring in ideas of trade, different polities and policies influencing the type of collapse that the city brings upon itself - and how devastating it happened to be.
The Magician (120 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
*sigh* So be it.

How about something different? I've seen/played a million conquest and civilization building games. How about a game of ideas? You control a prophet or philosopher and you travel the world trying to get people to adhere to your beliefs and then you suffer/benefit form the consequences of it. The more followers you get, the more power you get, but the more diluted your philosophy becomes.
That kinda makes me think of Populous.
Well if we're going to computer games, I hate tech trees. You choose skills at the beginning and they don't change. The game gets harder, but you succeed based upon skill and cleverness, not leveling up.

For board games, perhaps a slight mix of Catan and Diplomacy, where you have armies that can travel, and move twice as fast along roads, and you can fortify you cities or sack a city. If you sack a city, the other player can't get any resource cards from it. Its a rough idea, but I'm sure you can build upon it.


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stauros (159 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC
Ancient Mediterranean
2 for Ancient Mediterranean. Looking for more.

gameID=96962
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
09 Aug 12 UTC
Trouble getting up in the morning?
Please +1 the post which is true for you (or add the correct option)
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Hydro Globus (100 D)
08 Aug 12 UTC
WebDip rules question
Is there a difference between drawing or cancelling a game if no players have been defeated, the scoring is WTA, and four (!) players are NMR?
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krellin (80 DX)
24 Jul 12 UTC
Ban the G***
Ganja....the drugs....pot...hashish...cocaine...meth...Hell, ban cigarettes...ban it ALL....BAN THE GUNS!!!!.....and you know what happens? BLAKC MARKETS! We can't keep HUMAN BEINGS from crossing the border. We can't stop drugs. You Anti-gun fools think you can ban guns????
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Rhyme621 (356 D)
07 Aug 12 UTC
Quick rules question
If a country support holds a country that is support moving a country, is this the same effect on the country that's holding as if the same country was to hold and another country was to support hold it?
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thatwasawkward (4690 D(B))
08 Aug 12 UTC
First person to post loses.
Oops.
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dangermouse (5551 D)
08 Aug 12 UTC
I'm back!
Looks like we've still got a few old timers out there. Hello again to them and a first time to the newer players.

I see the forums haven't changed much, 50% philosophical debates, 49% trolling and 1% game related stuff.
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FlemGem (1297 D)
07 Aug 12 UTC
any home brewers out there?
I just started my first batch yesterday, just curious if anyone else has any experience to share.
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
07 Aug 12 UTC
The Greatest Comedians of All Time
My personal opinion would be the Marx Brothers, but who do you think are the greatest comedians?
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SplitDiplomat (101466 D)
08 Aug 12 UTC
10 SC-s Germany replacement
gameID=96898,live game.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Jul 12 UTC
If at first you don't succeed...
... Send in the Physicists.

http://phys.org/news/2012-07-physicists-classics-hidden-truths.html
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
07 Aug 12 UTC
So Jesus, Mohammad, Moses, Buddha, Vishnu, and Hitchens all Have a Beer Summit... :P
Just for a change of pace, as we're wrapping up The Great Debate now (sorry again for my last submission being a bit late, Thucy) and because it'd be interesting...
One nice thing about Judaism/Christianity/Islam if you're atheistic like me...
One nice thing about atheism and its authors/books if you're theistic.
Let's see if we can all get along... ;)
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Putin33 (111 D)
07 Aug 12 UTC
Most Overrated Philosophers
By overrated I mean philosophers whose reputations are excessively high in light of their originality, insight, or quality of work.
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seth24c (5659 D)
07 Aug 12 UTC
EoG Gunboats can FLY!?!?!?
gameID=96865 france is the kind guy that if you knew him in real life you would beat his face in. If he would have stayed in cd we would have had the stalemate, but then he comes back and supports austria into burgundy.
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Klaas (229 D)
07 Aug 12 UTC
World map Dark Summer still missing a few
gameID=96591
Join us, we are still a few players short! Would be great I we can get going.
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2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
07 Aug 12 UTC
wta gunboat 198
See below.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
06 Aug 12 UTC
How do you convince the Board to let you Solo?
See below
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William Flint (220 D)
07 Aug 12 UTC
2 more needed for beginners game
Bunch of new players looking to have a practice game. Game starts in 13 hours, standard game, 1 day/phase. Contact me for password if you're interested. game url is http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=96734#gamePanel
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
06 Aug 12 UTC
Wikipedia is broken.
Why isn't wikipedia working today?
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gramilaj (100 D)
27 Jul 12 UTC
Chicago World Diplomacy Championship
Hey everyone, I've been away for a while, but I was wondering if anyone from the site would be attending World Dip Champ in Chicago in 2 weeks?
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dipplayer2004 (1110 D)
02 Aug 12 UTC
Classical Music
In a classical listening mood today, as I work here in my home. Any suggestions? I already have the following in my playlist:

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krellin (80 DX)
06 Aug 12 UTC
Why is ONE national News???
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/08/06/7-people-shot-following-detroit-princess-cruise/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57487094/sikh-temple-shooting-suspect-identified-as-wade-michael-page-motivation-unclear/
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2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
31 Jul 12 UTC
Handball
...the fuck did I just watch?
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Conservative Man (100 D)
05 Aug 12 UTC
My opinion on a certain subject keeps changing.
I'm trying to keep this as ambiguous as possible, because before when I've come on here with similar problems, all I've been getting is other people's opinions on the matter, which isn't what I want. I want help in forming my own opinion. Whether or not that's possible without telling you the problem, I don't know. We'll find out. More inside.
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urallLESBlANS (0 DX)
06 Aug 12 UTC
Teaching racism
I've seen this interview of Morgan Freeman before, and I know its pretty old, but I saw it again recently, and I felt like discussing it.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
06 Aug 12 UTC
Work Ethic
Is it hypocritical that those who gripe the most about bad work ethic post during the work day?
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Gerry (3173 D(S))
06 Aug 12 UTC
Anonymous
How I can enter a game as "Anonymous" player? And have I understood right that After the game the players will be shown?
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Svidrigailov (100 D)
04 Aug 12 UTC
Film
Another one of my passions, what are you favorites? perhaps we can get a discussion going too.
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madarn (105 D)
05 Aug 12 UTC
How do I get email announcements if something happens in my games?
Hi. Read the FAQ, but didn't find anything about it.
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