yes
yesterday i played a live game with no one going cd and everyone showing up
still most games 1-3 people leave early or dont show up, but getting a little better i think

and the greatest thing was i won as austria!

Congrats! I'd like to play you sometime, maybe tomorrow

it's been awhile since my last live game. Maybe I should start one today

Good to hear.

Well as long as henrytinkler isn't in them you should be fine.

Ghost, do you ever play live games?

@Crazyter
Did you get my message?

We also need to work on getting people to agree to short pauses... I have had things come up recently and turned to the mods both times! I feel bad like I'm trolling the mods.

i agree, though i'm sketchy on gunboats. but regular non anon live games seem to be running better

Yeah short pauses would be wonderful and a way to make sure everyone comes back on time

@Dave-no I 'm glad you flagged me down here-saw no messages whatsoever in that 5 min phase chaos! Well as I recall G had a fleet in ENG. But yeah he had very few fleets and was very open to a stab where I could have nailed him for 4-5 centers and maybe won the game. I didnt do it because he was a super cool ally an because in less than 5 mins I couldnt plan out a precise careful stab and get it all properly executed . Near the end I had enough time but then I was getting tired, the game was ending just before midnite which was cool, and besides he had started shoring up his defenses better by then.

Crazyter: no, but its still good to hear. :)

Well as a player who just started on this site, I think it runs very smoothly. I have played Dip for decades, but this is the first on-line experience that I have had that is nice. Thanks for whoever put it together. I hope to stay for a long time.

One thing I don't like is that the game starts when it has 7 players. I have only played live games since joining a few days ago and in one of them I missed the entire first year because it started early. In two other games, other people missed the first year which unfairly swayed the game (in my advantage in one). I think the start time should remain the same, no matter when the 7th player joins.

That being an option would make sense.

THats a really good idea. Either that or a "start" button that everyone pushes when they arrive so when all 7 arrive, the game starts.

yes...I have played on other sites before and the "start" button became a problem because everyone HAD to click start in order to begin. There were players who would simply wait a few hours until the others had left and then click start and have the whole game to themselves to solo. I think a combination of the two would be a good idea...or just an option when creating a game.

Yeah there needs to be a way that the game starts when all 7 people are there, not before. and no one can trick it. So 22 maybe your suggestion about an exact strt time is best.

@Crazyter
well, my message basically pointed out the irony that in E-G alliances as Germany you had 4 fleets for 10 units, but your super cool ally built no fleets the entire game!! :-)
So yeah, you basicaly go it... just wondered if you think I was right about the fleets looking back at our game?

@Dave-NO! he was so vulnerable to a stab-look about 1904 , 1905. I could have taken hol, bel, den, kiel,etc ANd maybe I should have since my GR rating is going down again with too many draws!!!!!!

The circumstances of this game were unusual in 3 regards:
1. I needed more than 3-4 mins to think through the precise tactics of how to best pull off the stab and
2. He kept feeding me more SCs in the east via convoys,e tc. so I had no reason to stab yet, I kept thinking I'll do it later.
3. with New years, I was feeling generous and it was getting late so I agreed to the draw

but I did have 13 centers still at the end and even then I could have probably stabbed him and won the game. SO if any of the above conditions 1,2, or 3 had not been present , then I would have stabbed and probably won the game. If the game had not been live, I would have thought very carefully about the pros and cons and timing and exact tactics of the best way to do a stab. If he had been alittle less generous, I would have stabbed. If it had not been so late on New Years, I would have stabbed at the end of the game.

That being said, I could be totally wrong. Based on your #18 GR Dave, you probably have a better handle on this than I do. COngrats on that btw !!!!!!!!!

lol, I don't at all feel like a deserve it... honestly, live games are probably easier to win...
But I still think you could have defended with armies and been more flexible, you looked like you were planning a stab, I mean 40% of your units useless!
ah, that was a good game... I'm annoyed we drew

I love them and I wish they could be anonymous but unfortunately all the times I've played that way have been blatant cheating and there's no way to prevent it or end it in a live game before it causes irreparable damage.

Even a premade anonymous game I participated in was somewhat shady, everyone in the game knew one another and by the third year they knew who I was and everyone else by process of elimination and that was dumb.

Thanks crazyter, but unfortunately you might have to put up with some bugs in the near future because variant support will be coming out later today, and I'm sure there'll be bugs (though I have tried to be thorough in testing)

do we want variants if they bring bugs?

I say no.

the variants code has been run on other site right? most of the bugs have been cleared up, we'll just have to put up with a week or two of minor issues until they are all sorted out...

@Dave-yeah that was a wonderful game. Why are you annoyed that we drew? Also I'd like to get your comments on draw versus wins-please see forum thread on honor.

@dave; hopefully it won't be too bad, and once it's done it should improve things at least for some

@orathaic; actually this variant code is different to gilgatex's one, which was worked on bit by bit by jayp and gilgatex and so ended up not being ideal (especially not if the goal is making variants not site-specific)

I'm not really annoyed we drew, just that we weren't able to finish off a good game due to people not making the time and stuff... I wasn't expecting to win, but a five way was unexpected.