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Rait (10151 D(S))
28 Dec 07 UTC
Something I've never seen
I think I'm joining the party who claims that there should be no secondary objectives (like ensuring Yourself a place within the first 3 or similar) in games besides winning the game. I find it pretty unbelievable that 3! corner countries could cooperate against the rest of the countries for 1,5 decades without making a single move against each-other. Not trying to be a sour loser, but this is really amazing. I will comment further after the game is finished, but I simply had to burst out the emotion.
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masys (0 D)
31 Dec 07 UTC
No points and no game.
I seem to have been caught one of the games that disappeared. I signed on to a 100pt game. That game disappeared and so I have no points. Do I get reset to 100 as some point?
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diegohb (470 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
Bye bye
Well. I heard enough. All this people: Wooble, mightyrobot, Anlari, TimuraKhan, The Mahatma, Raga, El_Perro_Artero, dangermouse, Thucydides, jesuschrist, haer, Locke, gokhan1735, aoe3rules, think different than me. They are clearlly more than the people who agreed with me. So it is time to step aside.I will finish my games, but I will not answer to any press. Bye bye.
aoe3rules (949 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
what?
haer (433 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
Now i must say that you are being a bit silly.
I'm sure many of the people you just counted (like myself) agree that multi accounting and talking crap sucks.

But we don't agree on the ways you want to use to stop it, that's all.
Labond (140 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
Good bye. I'm not sure why the song and dance of annoucing it, but I hope you find a Dip. site that you prefer.
alamothe (3367 D(B))
28 Dec 07 UTC
there's no better dip site currently! please stay, let's hope things will improve soon...
diegohb (470 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
I dont think things will improve alamothe. Not with this kind of comunity...
MarekP (12864 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
> I will finish my games, but I will not answer to any press.

So you are going to spoil games for about 20 people that have no relation to your problem... If you really want to leave the site, wouldn't be better to ask Kestas for putting your account into CD?
Karkand (2167 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
See ya! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
Lynius (100 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
Well, leaving the site isn't necessary... I'd recommend just starting a new account and playing clean this time.
whoami (178 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
I am personally convinced that diegohb is a metagamer simply because he has decided to leave the game after an accusation. I don't believe that this is the course of action that a person would take if they were honest.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
28 Dec 07 UTC
I'm not sure that I was against you? Just what you said... it's not as though I was saying, "get out." Although I stand by my opinions, in the end, that's all they are, opinions.
arthurmklo (879 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
What you are now doing pretty much means that you are metagaming, even if you didnt. If you are innocent, why dont you stand up strong and stay here, you dont need to care too much on opinions, just as Thucydides said.
Google (131 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
I personaly believe diegohb is not cheating. For a cheater, he may cancel his account easily and register another instead. No need to burn energy here.
Signalseven (116 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
The posts by Thucydides and arthurmklo are correct. The only innocent man who ever ran was Dr. Richard Kimble. Even then he was innocent running made even him look guilty and I was watching from the beggining. i knew he didn't do it. :)
mightyrobot (202 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
I find your behavior both in the games and in the forums to be strange and rude. How you act is your choice to make, but I am not asking you leave. I do ask you to think about your behavior. What might cause people to accuse constantly accuse you of things you say you do not do? Either you are doing these things, and you should stop. Or, you aren't, and you should defend yourself firmly and respectably. Your overdramatic behavior here leads me to believe that you have issues you need to work out either way.
mightyrobot (202 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
<i need to type more carefully...>

correction to 3rd sentence:
...might cause people to constantly accuse...
anlari (8640 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
I think Diegohb is a really troubled person.

Many of us have been accused of metagaming, often with less to base accusations on, and in much worse ways, by telling it to eveyone privately or just telling it in public. All I did was to tell him about my suspicions directly and only implying my suspicion to another player, without ever starting a huge rumour or bringing it to the forums.

First he called me names in return, which I thought was normal, perhaps bad sports at worst. Then he brought it to the forum himself and I thought he was just acting stupidly and very angry for some reason.

Then he started two threads with names like 'Anti-Anlari crusade'. I thought his suggestions were arguable at worst, but the way he directed them in such a hostile way to me was very immature at worst.

Now he is saying he is leaving the site because people did not agree with him, which really makes me think he has issues and can't deal with people not obeying to his will.

And guess what I just saw! Two games named Anlari1 and Anlari2 filled with accounts named Metagamer, Anlari1, Anlari2 going up to Anlari6.

I don't care about the harassment campaign he seems to be trying to launch - it is not working anyways, but I am starting to pity him.
What I thought was a whining, immature kid now appears more like a very troubled person. Seek psychological help, for your own sake.
anlari (8640 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
And I don't think I need to say that those games and accounts have nothing to do with me.
warrenthegreat (147 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
I hate it when people cheat. And when people waste my time.
kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
28 Dec 07 UTC
I am being a slack with bringing out the phpDip updates, but I had a more important web project for a relative's charity which also had a deadline which took up some of my hobby time.

Hopefully you can all bear it a while longer, but if not you can always subscribe to the phpdip mailing list at the phpdiplomacy sourceforge site and come back when things are more bearable.

Remember the current version was written back when phpDip had around 1/20th the number of regular visitors than it does at the moment, so some parts are definitely going to get strained. It's almost surprising there aren't more problems with the current system.

Anyway happy new year,
Locke (1846 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
I dont have a problem with you diegohb, i often vote against reforms to the system and it doesnt mean i hate the person suggesting them!
If you're still around in the new year i'd be quite happy to set up a game with us in it to show there's no hard feelings.......i might even ally with you :p
The Mahatma (1195 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
Hello everybody,
As anlari and others have pointed out, diego is clearly not quite right in the head. May I suggest that we all ignore him until he goes away - no more messages on this thread or any other that he is involved with.
Mahatma
warrenthegreat (147 D)
29 Dec 07 UTC
ok no more messages on this thread starting when?
alamothe (3367 D(B))
29 Dec 07 UTC
happy new year, Kestas!! don't worry we are still patient :-)
aoe3rules (949 D)
30 Dec 07 UTC
wait, i just realized something. diego, is HB your initials?
diegohb2 (100 D)
30 Dec 07 UTC
Yes, why?
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Dec 07 UTC
"This kind of community?" Sure, there are cheaters, but I think most of the people who play here are rather honest, just like with any scandal, just the "few" spoiling things for the "most". I think, personally, that there should be SOME kind of punishment, but not anything like immediate banishment.

Three things I'd like for the New Year:

1. Cheating Policy of some kind.
2. MORE TOUNAMENTS! The 1st was fun, though I exited early.
3. Make the "Dip-Awards" avatars you can put next to your name. It'd be kind of cool (but best stabber might not work out too well lol.)

Well, goodbye, diegohb2. I think I played you in a game recently. Wish you wouldn't go, but if you must, good luck mein khaver.
warrenthegreat (147 D)
30 Dec 07 UTC
It's harsh but fair
isbian (106 D)
30 Dec 07 UTC
Why is there a diegohb and a diegohb2??????

Look, diegohb, there are scammers, cheaters, hackers, metagamers, jackasses, etc. in EVERY single multiplayer game you will EVER play. Don't just leave because one person slanders your name.

However, if you simply cannot live with that, maybe you should go.
bartdude24 (100 D)
31 Dec 07 UTC
whatever happens to diegohb, can you please put your moves in the games you are playing right now? I just waited a full 24 hours because you didn't finalize any moves, and now I have to wait another 24 hours so you can finalize a retreat. make it better for everyone please.
aoe3rules (949 D)
31 Dec 07 UTC
diegohb: nevermind, i just thought of something.


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Charleyzard (2 D)
31 Dec 07 UTC
Supporting a convoy
I'm not sure how to successfully support a convoy. FOR EXAMPLE

(this is completely fabricated)
Germany wants to convoy from Kiel to Livonia
Austrian Army in Warsaw agrees to support.

How would austria designate the order to support Germany's convoyed unit?
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Darwyn (1601 D)
30 Dec 07 UTC
GFTD6
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2136

This finalizes that the last three survivors of game six of the Grand Festive Tournament are: Otto Von Bismark, thewonderllama, and Darwyn.
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Caesar (127 D)
30 Dec 07 UTC
Bring it On
Hey guys, I just made a new game, so come join it. The cost is only 7 pts.
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Raga (140 D)
30 Dec 07 UTC
Error?
Error triggered: An assertion, $this->mode != DIPLOMACY or (count($this->USERMEMBERSHIPS) == 7 and count($this->MEMBERSHIPS) == 7), was not met as required..

The details of this error have been successfully logged and will be attended to by a developer.

-----

Anyone else gotten this error before when trying to view one of your games, or know what happened? Hopefully it doesn't last too long. =/
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
30 Dec 07 UTC
Can't open the 'games' page
I can't open the games page.
Kestas, please help!!!
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
23 Dec 07 UTC
Of Warp Factors and Wookies.........
OK, for some reason, the Holiday Season puts me in a Sci-Fi mood. Since we've done the whole "Greatest Diplomacy player" thing, and basically drew between Bismark, Alexander, and Ghengis Khah (still think Alexander should have won), let's do Sci-Fi: if you want, of course.

There will be three heats- a Trek Heat, a Wars heat, and then, the winners of each heat will move on, and then we'll combine the two lists, figure out who got the 3rd most votes, then 4th, etc, until we have 7 players for the final.

So, in the Trek heat we have:

Kirk
Spock
Picard
Data
Sisko
Worf
Janeway
Khan (Gotta do it: KKKKKHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!)

In the Wars heat:

Anakin/Vader
Luke
Padme
Leia
Yoda
Palpatine
Obi-Wan

Sorry if your favorite didn't make the list................

Shalom, Live long and prosper, and May the Force be with you!

(Wow- I AM a huge nerd- ah well.)
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thewonderllama (100 D)
30 Dec 07 UTC
Is diegohb throwing a fit?
Or is it Smart Jason?

Or yet a new fun player on the harrass-the-phpdip-community scene?!?!
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pitirre (0 DX)
24 Dec 07 UTC
dip awards 2007
the year is finalizing and the awards has come in so we can get an idea of who's who in 2007.

best dip playing site; stabbeurfou.org

best dip forum; phpdiplomacy

best extra feautures in a dip site; bounced

best dip graphic; php diplomacy

new player of the year; pitirre

best game of the year; paranoid eyes

best stabber of the year; pitirre (with a 5 consecutive stabs to the same player)

best country to play in this year; france

and the best dip player of the year ; rait

thank very much for the nominees and better luck next year, 2008...and keep lying, backstabbing and make older people cry.
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Nick Douglas (408 D)
29 Dec 07 UTC
New game: "Win or die" with 101 bid
All alliances must end some time. (DEAR ALLIES: Sometimes that's in the last move of the game, and it will totally be your choice, and you'll beat me, honest, now just do what I tell you.)
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Charleyzard (2 D)
29 Dec 07 UTC
New Game: Maelstrom
Please join everyone!
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GumboGino (320 D)
29 Dec 07 UTC
gid=22481 stuck at due now for the last 2-3 hours
What's to do when this happens ?
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Diplomaholic (100 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
Help can't retreat
For some reason my fleet in sc of Bul moving to Aeg can't retreat to Greece after bouncing in Aeg. What can be done to fix this?
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whatusername (100 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
death
death

hoho wait what
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opripom (2853 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
[BUG] Due now for 12 hours
Kestas, please check this game - http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2543 (globaldomin). Thank you.
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hanker (769 D)
22 Dec 07 UTC
Beware these Players (One Player?)
The players are Putin, Tsar, Comrade and Spetznatz. I am currently playing in Fast Players in which I was informed by these players that they are allied because they all know each other in "real life", go to the same high school and participate in a model UN together. Pre game alliances make for boring and predictable games. Fcuk that shit. As I mulled over whether to abandon the game on principle I began to suspect these players were the same person. A scan of their games shows a pattern of playing together. They mysteriously log on within minutes of each other in quick succesion year after year. When I gave these players a heads up of an outing on the forum, they all responded with 1 minute. If not the same player, their level of collusion is troubling. It brings no fun to the game played this way. Kestas, I am asking if you could please investigate and shut down this game.
i.e. Fast Players Only Game ID #2516 http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2516
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DumbDrummer (150 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
Self-dislodgement
What are the rules on self-dislodgement?
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diegohb (470 D)
24 Dec 07 UTC
Acused of metagame (diegohb & ssabia)
On the game "Isaac newton" Anlari is acusing me (and Ssabia). He is suspicious because Russia (Ssabia) is attacking Germany (Anlari) after Germany was keeping Russia out of sweden from the beggining.
In the first game I won, Ssabia finished 2nd. Despite the fact that ssabia and I had won games on our own, when we play a game together there is always a smart ass acusing us of metagame (and some other stupid who believe this) . And that leave us with no choice of allies, and therefore, we must work together.
Please, analize the case end post your opinion. If enough people think I am guilty of metagame, I will quit this game.
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MarekP (12864 D)
24 Dec 07 UTC
Bug: Retreating from Bulgaria(NC) to Greece
In the game Turquoise Days -- http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2423 -- Turkey has just retreated from the Norther coast of Bulgaria to Greece. Is this a known bug?
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diegohb (470 D)
27 Dec 07 UTC
Anti-Anlari crusade (vote here)
Please vote here YES or NO if you agree with this suggested changes:

1) Implementation of some sort of ip-verification-system (to stop multiaccounters)
2) Anonymous games. (to stop the false acussations)
3) Winner takes all points (no points for 2nd place) and in case of draw the points are divided equally between the drawers.

Please, do not discuss here (use the other post).
3)
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Diplomaholic (100 D)
20 Dec 07 UTC
Question: Negotiations
Hello, could someone please help me? I am starting my 1st game. How are negotiations usually done? By e-mail?
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Caesar (127 D)
28 Dec 07 UTC
Join Blitzkrieg
Join my game, Blitzkrieg. The pot is 50 points
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arthurmklo (879 D)
27 Dec 07 UTC
Why is it so hard to open games?
Recently, since I got a few points back, I opened/joined a 100+ point games, but the problem is, not enough people is joining. I have been opening a few in a row but still no one is joining. Is using your points really that hard. There must quite a lot of people that has more than 100+ points...
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Google (131 D)
27 Dec 07 UTC
Welcome to game "一一一"
I created a game named "一一一". Welcome to join it. : )
(GMT+8)
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oziodip (297 D)
23 Dec 07 UTC
it's possible to check for a metagaming situation?
in this game http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2449 i notice strange moves of italy and france, i notived that they finalize and login at the same time, i noticed they joined phpdiplomacy 13 and 14 dec..
obviously they are allied in the game...
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diegohb (470 D)
27 Dec 07 UTC
Anti-Anlari crusade (discuss here)
Hello. I saw enough games ruined by characters like Anlari. To stop this desease, I suggest 3 changes to this website:

1) The hardest to accomplish. We need some sort of ip-verication-system to stop the multi-accounters (or to make the job hardest for them)

2) This is very simple. The games should be ANONYMOUS. That means, none knows the identity of the other players until the game is finished. That way you stop the "Anlari" behaivior ("XXX is metagaming!!! look at game YYY!!! Do not ally with him!!! etc etc)

3) This one is simple too. Lets bring back to life the true spirit of the game. On the Diplomacy Rulebook (4th Edition (C) 2000 Hasbro) is writted: "As soon as one Great Power controls 18 supply centers, it is considered to have gained control of Europe. The player representing that Great Power is the winner. However, players can end the game by agreement before a winner is determined. In that case, all players who still have pieces on the board share equally in a draw". If we apply this to the point sistem: a) the rulebook says there is only 1 winner, so the winner takes all the points (no points for 2nd place). b) if a draw is declared, the poins are divided equally between the players who survived (no matter how many units).

Please, discuss here and please vote YES or NO (to the suggested changes) in the other post.
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
27 Dec 07 UTC
Kestas, please reset my mail to [email protected]
you banned that account for multi-accounting, right?
Since I've turned over a new leaf please set my email to that one.
This current email of mine is nonexistent.
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bajeezus (574 D)
27 Dec 07 UTC
Draw Request
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2216

Between Dant818 and myself. I'll let him give the final word
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