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Triumvir (1193 D)
08 Oct 13 UTC
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A New Site Feature
I know less than nothing about how this would have to be implemented, so feel free to ignore this. Would it be possible to add a feature that allows people to "follow" games that they aren't in?
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WarLegend (1747 D)
11 Oct 13 UTC
Coming out....
Of retirement. Havent played a game in about 5 months, and have been spoiled by high quality play for to long to be satisfied by a random game.

Looking for 6 other good, reliable players who send a lot of press. Who wants in!?
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
14 Oct 13 UTC
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Happy Thanksgiving!
To all our neighbours in the nourth.
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smoky (771 D)
14 Oct 13 UTC
Join
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
13 Oct 13 UTC
Blankflag Memorial Classic
in honour of our friend blankflags latest silencing i thought it would be cool to have a game the only special rule is that in your press you have to type like blankflag with no capital letters or other punctuation

join to my game gameID=127466
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
14 Oct 13 UTC
Passion of the Christ
I've just watched that for the first time ..... whoever made that film must have loved the Jews.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 Oct 13 UTC
NFL Pick 'em: Week 6--Can the Giants Get A Win? Should the 'skins Change Their Name?
We start Week 6 with a game that looked a LOT better before the season started, the Giants and the Cowboys. The Cowboys and Redskins play on Sunday Night, an always-fun match-up (what do you think about the Redskin name, by the way, change it or no?) and there are plenty of interesting games with the Pack and Ravens going at it, the Saints and Patriots going head-to-head, and more. So, Week 6, here we go...PICK 'EM!
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Oct 13 UTC
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Protest by Congress
Not against Congress... actual people from Congress protesting... http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/8/us-lawmakers-arrestedatimmigrationrally.html

Start of something big maybe?
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damian (675 D)
10 Oct 13 UTC
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Are you a fuloughed US employee? Do you like free stuff?
Apparently GOG is giving away free video games to anyone who sends them an email with a picture of them, and their furlough notice. I remember some people complaining on this forum about being furloughed by don't remember who. So public notice y'all. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/128554-GOG-Offers-Free-Games-to-Furloughed-U-S-Employees
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
13 Oct 13 UTC
Good News for Arizonans........
...... bad news for Washington politicians
The Grand Canyon has re-opened.
Anarchy in the USA, profit-making tourist attraction back in business.
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Invictus (240 D)
12 Oct 13 UTC
Nobel Peace Prize Continues to be a joke
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/12/world/chemical-weapons-watchdog-wins-nobel-peace-prize.html

How can you give the peace prize to a chemical weapons watchdog the year chemical weapons are used in war? They had one job.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Oct 13 UTC
Shoddy Peer Review in Open Access Journals
As reported in Science (http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6154/60.full):
Open Access Journals may be more likely to accept suspect papers (as they are paid by the authors) as demonstrated by Bohannon, who submitted a clearly false paper to several hundred journals, to be rejected by less than half.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
11 Oct 13 UTC
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This is of no surprise.

Before anybody jumps off the deep end and concludes peer review is meaningless (looking at you, krellin), be aware that these journals are not prestigious, and nobody doing real science either submits to them or reads them.

If you have to pay to get something published, that's called advertising, not science.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Oct 13 UTC
Overall, this is correct. The problem is that there were some journals owned/operated by some very well-known publishers, such as Elsevier. It seems those publishers have mostly taken action to immediately close down their less reputable journals, but it still remains that you have to be particularly careful when dealing with open access journals.
krellin (80 DX)
11 Oct 13 UTC
@YJ - I have never suggested that "peer review" is meaningless. But peer review in no way equals "100 % accurate and unbiased" - which is what I have suggested many times and presented evidence to support. Abge is only supporting my past claims in a different manner.

If a bunch of bought-and-paid-for “research” scientists review your paper – and said paper is say a corollary or closely tied to your research (for which you are highly compensated to conduct…) there is a good chance that your review of his work is going to be biased positive because, you know, if his research is fraudulent, then yours might be, too.

So of course there is no guarantee of integrity in peer-review.

This does not mean there is no value to peer review – on the contrary, I believe it does add value – but it is not a guarantee of anything.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
11 Oct 13 UTC
Fair enough.
krellin (80 DX)
11 Oct 13 UTC
yj - damn you and your agreeableness...
fulhamish (4134 D)
11 Oct 13 UTC
Not too sure about the title of the thread - it seems a little prejudicial and generalist to me. Anyway putting that aside, there is another point of view:

''The real problem for science today is quality control. Peer review has been at the heart of this, but there are too many failures – both in open access and traditional journals – simply to plod ahead with the same system. We need new approaches and numerous individuals and organisations are working on these, such as the open evaluation project.

The creative potential offered by digital communication of scientific results, an area in which open access journals are leading the way, is exactly where we need to focus. And if we do so, we will solve the problem of the broken peer review system that Science and the gonzo scientist have uncovered.''
http://www.theguardian.com/higher-education-network/blog/2013/oct/04/science-hoax-peer-review-open-access
krellin (80 DX)
11 Oct 13 UTC
You can not eliminate fraud and bias when humans are involved.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Oct 13 UTC
I'm a huge supporter of the proliferation of science literature and I think open access journals have a large part to play in that. People complain about the peer review process and yet no one seems to be able to come up with reasonable alternatives. Open Access Journals, however, seem to be particularly vulnerable to corruption.
fulhamish (4134 D)
12 Oct 13 UTC
Even if one were to accept your premise that open access journals are more prone to fraud the ever more prohibitive monetary cost of closed journal subscription remains. Indeed, the article I referenced made mention, I think, of Harvard having to cut back on their e library resources. I wonder what might be the greater evil - the possible heightened susceptibility of open journals to fraud or the ever more restricted access to scientific research afforded by the status quo. One thing that might well help is that all journals, open or closed, stipulate that all raw data is presented, perhaps as an internet addendum. Another might be that grant giving bodies include an allowance for open access publication in their costing. In any event it seems wrong, on a fundamental level that publically funded research is not made available for that same public to freely read.
I have in mind in particular the reluctance of the Hadley centre to publish their raw data or even make it available when other researchers request it.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Oct 13 UTC
"In any event it seems wrong, on a fundamental level that publically funded research is not made available for that same public to freely read."

I could not agree with you more.

However, I think I would argue that inaccurate science is much more damaging than locked down science. The reality is, if you really need to find an article, you can get it. But, the proliferation of bad science that looks legit could be extremely damaging to real publications' credibility as well as science literacy in general.

Randomizer (722 D)
12 Oct 13 UTC
Open access journals are the scientific equivalent of vanity presses for regular authors. Peer review is somewhat better, but there has been enough fraudulent scientific papers published there too.

Releasing raw data only works when that hasn't been faked too and with computers that's easy to do. All you need to do is run a program that generates data to fit the desired result and add a random element to each point to make it look real.
fulhamish (4134 D)
13 Oct 13 UTC
‘’ However, I think I would argue that inaccurate science is much more damaging than locked down science. The reality is, if you really need to find an article, you can get it. But, the proliferation of bad science that looks legit could be extremely damaging to real publications' credibility as well as science literacy in general.’’

I am not sure that this is an open or subscription journal issue. May I point you in the direction of the ever expanding C.PubMed database? It seems to form a pretty workable template to me. Here is the FAQ page in case you are interested:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/about/faq/#q9
fulhamish (4134 D)
13 Oct 13 UTC
‘’Open access journals are the scientific equivalent of vanity presses for regular authors. Peer review is somewhat better, but there has been enough fraudulent scientific papers published there too.’’
Peer review is very much part of the best open access journals (e.g., see my previous post on C.PubMed)
‘’Releasing raw data only works when that hasn't been faked too and with computers that's easy to do. All you need to do is run a program that generates data to fit the desired result and add a random element to each point to make it look real.’’
I agree that a case of outright fraud is possible via this data manipulation. However, at least, if the data is published, one has the opportunity to repeat the experiment and confirm or not the datas’ validity. I, however, am much more interested in bias. That is how the authors interpret the data and how statistically valid, or otherwise, their iterpretation is (e.g., historic tree ring data used for climate change proofs). It might also be that honest arithmetical mistakes have been made. Whether it is fraud or bias or plain old adding up mistakes, the wider scientific community therefore gets to perform the function of almost a super peer review corpus if required. Surely that can be no bad thing?


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Hydro Globus (100 D)
12 Oct 13 UTC
Rules question passing by
Can a Fleet in Bulgaria (nc) support a move to Greece?
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josunice (3702 D(S))
12 Oct 13 UTC
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Enhance the Forum, Please!
Add "follow" like mute thread function to prioritize to top, and please add a category in thread creation for "diplomacy" and "non-diplomacy" so we can filter one or the other at any time.
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Otto Von Bastard (302 D)
08 Oct 13 UTC
Support holding a unit which is supporting another units move?
If a unit is supporting a move, can another unit behind it support hold it or does that not work because the unit it wants to support hold is not holding?

Say Rumania wanted to support move a unit but I wanted to support hold Rumania from Bulgaria would that protect Rumania or would it not work?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
11 Oct 13 UTC
The Web of Fear's a Source of Joy Again--9 DOCTOR WHO EPISODES RECOVERED! :D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24467337

That's really great, and just in time for the 50th anniversary too...even if we want to say maybe that timing is a little "too" good, hey, they're missing episodes recovered, and all of them from Troughton, who is awesome in the role...I'd love to see these!
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
08 Oct 13 UTC
The Blame Obama thread
What is Obama's fault? Let's make a list.

I'll start off and say terrorism is Obama's fault.
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dr. octagonapus (210 D)
12 Oct 13 UTC
Can I get some feedback from someone
gameID=127434
not my best game but normally I play horribly as Italy
If anyone who professors the SoW games has some free time i'd like to get some feedback. Especially because live full-press games are very different from less speedy games
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
12 Oct 13 UTC
Weall love Saudi Arabia ....
....... they got cheap oil !!
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/2013/09/28/Driving-affects-ovary-and-pelvis-Saudi-sheikh-warns-women.html
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semck83 (229 D(B))
11 Oct 13 UTC
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A Nobel in Two Pages
Physical Review is making available for free the papers that won the Physics Nobel Prizes this year (for the prediction of the Higgs boson). One of them is two pages, and the other is three. That's not so uncommon in physics, but it's still remarkable how tersely a great idea can be communicated. Here is the link for the interested:

http://prst-ab.aps.org/edannounce/2013-nobel-prize-in-physics
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Putin33 (111 D)
12 Oct 13 UTC
World Cup Qualifiers
In terms of CONCACAF, Mexico is the brink of having to fight New Zealand in a playoff to get in. I had the pleasure of seeing USA defeat them in person and secure our spot in Brazil. How is everybody else looking?
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krellin (80 DX)
09 Oct 13 UTC
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Debt Service without Raising the Ceiling
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/liveblog/live-updates-the-shutdown-4/?hpid=z2#c1e3ada3-dc00-41 D8-92cb-327c5c814d82

Yes, we can service our debt and not default on our credit without raising the debt ceiling. Just like YOU, the individual, can prioritize your spending at home (say, cancel cable when money gets tight)...so can the Fed. QUIT LYING OBAMA AND ALL YOU LIBTARDS!
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
08 Oct 13 UTC
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America doesn't want to lead the free world?
Okay, bye guys, see you, it was fun and you did better than some others. Hello Vladimir, just so you know, there's no one in the cockpit and the door's open. Happy birthday. The world is yours.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
07 Oct 13 UTC
US commando raids in africa
-Chinese commandos sieze a man in a New York street and fly him to China to face trial for orchestrating "free tibet" terrorist attacks - justice?
-Iranian paramilitarys kidnap Barack Obama and put him on trial for the casualties he orchestrated in Pakistan - justice?
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Putin33 (111 D)
07 Oct 13 UTC
Happy Birthday Vladimir Vladimirovich!
S Dzhem Rozhdeniya!

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SYnapse (0 DX)
11 Oct 13 UTC
Economists I need your feedback
on this

http://bryanblears.com/2013/10/10/economic-republicanism/
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krellin (80 DX)
11 Oct 13 UTC
Obama Blinks First - Utak Open Fed Parks
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/10/11/232090272/utah-allowed-to-re-open-national-parks-and-foot-the-bill

The REAL question is this - the Utah can pay $1.67 million to open the parks, to generate $100+ in revenue, why are YOUR tax dollars funding the park anyway? PRIVATIZE or give parks to the states, and these stupid problems go away...
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
09 Oct 13 UTC
We're in the world news...
...and almost no one here (in my country) seems to know.
Basically Dutch policemen arrested a Russian diplomat who abused his children. That's the story I believe. Is this bad? Good? Legal? Illegal?
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Antracia (3494 D)
11 Oct 13 UTC
Replacement Player Needed
British Columbia, Fall of the American Empire, replacement needed due to banned player: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=126986

Thanks :-)
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blankflag (0 DX)
10 Oct 13 UTC
official freedom weekend thread
truckers plus bikers plus veterans in dc
the media will not be able to ignore it
democracy in action gogogogogogo
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