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basvanopheusden (2176 D)
07 Dec 15 UTC
Help me buy a scientific computing desktop
Inspired by the other thread, can I ask you guys for some more advice? I'm looking to buy a desktop for $1000-2000, to use for my work in the lab. Almost every project I do has a serious numerical computation component to it, so I want to max out on computational power. I don't care about graphics though.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
07 Dec 15 UTC
Trump: Ban ALL Muslims from entering the USA
Is this guy for real?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35035190
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Peregrine Falcon (9010 D(S))
03 Dec 15 UTC
Most or least favourite to play
I was just curious what people's most and least favourite countries to play were and why. Does it correspond to the rankings of which countries win the most games?
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peterwiggin (15158 D)
16 Jul 15 UTC
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Welcome to the Peanut Gallery
A few of us have been talking about having a game where anybody not in the game can comment on it. Well, it's happening! gameID=164615
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I have never seen such praise for Italy not getting a build in 1901. I am personally very confused.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
24 Jul 15 UTC
You don't understand. When you don't play by the book, it depends if you're a friend (Italy) or not (Germany)
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
24 Jul 15 UTC
Diplomacy is not a game of strategy Stack, it's a game of diplomatic gains. The lack of a build is overcome by the stunning diplomatic gains. The power to influence every country on the map far outweighs delaying a build 2 turns.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
24 Jul 15 UTC
https://i.imgur.com/aqzlXHN.gif
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
24 Jul 15 UTC
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What point are you trying to make Valis, because it just seems like you're trolling right now. Explain your thoughts please.
I am not convinced, jmo, because I'm not sure how "delayed" the build is. It might never come! Someone could attack Italy because they are weak. It would be really bad for Italy if France suddenly built F Mar or Austria and Turkey decided to ally in the face of the big risk he is taking.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
24 Jul 15 UTC
1) It's a Peanut Gallery. As Statler and Waldorf remind us, the point is to have fun.

2) I'm trying to understand when out-of-textbook play is praised or not. Yes, we often come to the conclusion that Germany should not bounce Sweden, but we also often come to the conclusion Italy should have a build in 01. Why is one brilliant and the other abysmal especially without access to press? It's the appeal to authority on one case and then appeal to probably-good-reasoning-behind-the-scenes that I'm trying to dissect. I'm here to throw peanuts *and* to learn.
I would love to be Austria here. Italy's completely dependent on Austria to get centers, Russia is already a good ally. Just direct italy to smyrna and play gre-ion at the appropriate moment.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
24 Jul 15 UTC
One of the earliest DiplomacyCast topics was all about how Italy needs centers and can't just sit on 3/4 hoping to get big or stalemate-liney later. There's plenty of reasoning and people with hundreds of games in the school of thought that Italy should be pro-active.
I can sort of see the logic. A big part of your ability to influence others moves via your diplomacy is having units in places that matter, because your words don't mean a whole lot if you're toothless. Arguably, Italy has done this very well with just three units in important strategic spaces: Boh is obvious, Ven is just the smallest threat on Austria and of course valuable for defense, and Aegean is one of the most valuable naval spots in the east in 1901. Italy couldn't have done that while getting build.

But it takes a lot of confidence in Austria to try this. Austria could end Italy's game right now.

I'm going to guess that something Austria said had a lot to do with Germany's move to Sweden, and that Germany has received some promises which make the bounce a lot more sensible.
See, I think that the person who has more power in this situation is Italy, not Austria. Right now Austria cannot conduct a fall stab. Any stab of Italy would have to be a spring stab. Which gives Italy's very strategically placed units plenty of time to assist R or T in royally fucking Austria from behind. Meanwhile Italy can pretty much do as he pleases with those armies behind Austria.

Which brings me to a larger point. Why did he not put an army in Tyrolia. To me, Boh+Tyrolia is a much, much stronger position than Boh+Venice.
thorfi (1023 D)
24 Jul 15 UTC
Because Boh, Tyr allows the possibility of a fatal 2SC Austrian Spring Stab, whereas Boh, Ven doesn't?
I think it is also important that Boh+Tyr opens up the possibility of a supported attack on an Austrian SC, whereas Boh+Ven does not. It looks considerably friendlier to Austria to me, and has the added benefit as well of defending Venice. I am not sure how much stronger Boh+Tyr is when considering that using the added attacking power the two adjacent units provide can only be done against Austria, and can only be done while somehow exposing Venice.
VillageIdiot (7813 D)
24 Jul 15 UTC
Here's my take on what's going on.

I think we've got some overlapping triple 'alliances' going on with Germany being the common factor. There's the WT that everybody is talking about last round that probably was really a fake out to set somebody up out west and there's the CPA which is why you're seeing some highly aggressive moves against Turkey. I've little doubt members of both those alliances probably have even more sub-alliances on the go as well for sake of diversification of options and also..who wants a conventional alliance? This is a game packed full of puppet-master type personalities so you're going to see some wonky moves here and there because somebody sold somebody on something.

I'd lean towards the notion that Italy is playing a very dangerous game. I wouldn't say he's successfully stayed neutral as there's no way that move to Aeg hasn't made Turkey uncomfortable. He's in a very awkward position for being able to defend himself and is going to be very skeptical of any 'assurances' from Italy he's there just to make a crazy blindside on Austria (which is possible, but hard to bank on). And when i say it's dangerous i mean he's way out of position and there's a lot of very very charismatic players in the game who can be very convincing when they want to be, and it's not that hard of a sell to get somebody onboard with the idea that if the top player on WebDip wants to stick his neck out that much we'd be foolish not to lop it off while we can.

I'd tend to agree that Germany should have allowed Russia in, but my guess is Germany had a lot of pressure from those he's trying to string along that the bounce had to happen.

I suspect Turkey is feeling quite let down that he made a very committed move to attack Russia and Austria didn't support him into Rum. I've got to think that was a layer of betrayal (see CPA theory). Don't be surprised if we see our Jugg forming this year as a result.

The move to Burg is also interesting. Smokescreen of WT? Beginning of an E/F attack on Germany? We'll see. Builds in the west should be pretty telling. If it was start of an attack then it may have been a little premature as there was still possibly potential to talk Germany into betraying the CPA (if it does exist) otherwise but now that's probably off the table.

Going to be a fun 1902 i imagine.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
24 Jul 15 UTC
An interesting turn of events! So, let's see:

England: Solid start. Nothing much in your moves to talk about - that's pretty much the perfect English 1901. Army in Belgium, Fleet in Norway, and a bounce in Sweden. Probably would have welcomed the Turkish attack on Russia succeeding, but beyond that - job done. Lots of options for 1902: The French move to Burgundy opens up the chance of an E/F invasion of Germany whilst he squabbles with Russia (who'd probably accept your support to Sweden, as he's now reliant on you for any real gains up north, as working with Germany against you in his current situation is fairly unlikely). An E/G is also very viable, and if you can convince France not to build F-Bre, then you don't even need F-Lon... just F-Liv and A-Lon. At which point, you'll be laughing. Good job. You already had your cookie in Spring though - that was when the real work was done there.

France: Well, better. No terrible Lisbon Leap is a plus, and the Burgundy move puts you back into a place where you can proactively shape the board rather than reactively hide in a corner. The West is now in a state of flux as 1901 hasn't tied down anybody to particular alliances, so like England and Germany, you can pick who you want to ally with and where to attack. This builds phase is critical for you though: not building F-Bre would be a gigantic risk here as a second English convoy, onto Picardy, would be catastrophic. Even if you're going for the E/F, you need to be careful there. Still no cookie, but no detention either.

Germany: Utter waste of a turn. Holding units in a home SC in 1901? What are you doing? Everyone else may be screaming about the Swedish bounce, which I'll get to momentarily, but holding Munich is just as awful, if not even more so in my eyes. You had so many options which could have put you in the driving seat there, or at least in a strong position. You could have ruined an Italian Bohemian Crusher by going to Tyrolia (or Bohemia, but Tyrolia gives you more options if it succeeds, which it would have), which is probably what I'd have done there. You also could have gone for Burgundy for an attack on France (would have failed, and perhaps you knew that), but really, why not Ruhr? Gives you options on both France AND England with Belgium & Burgundy respectively, and lets you build in Munich. The fact you've held Munich means you're now forced into building in Berlin. This, combined with the Sweden bounce, is essentially forcing your hand into a Russo-German war that you really don't want to be in this early. Unless you were crazy and did want it, but in that case, why not go to Bohemia (for Galicia) or directly to Silesia? Awful move.

Then we get to the Sweden bounce: god damnit. Russia was on the ropes with an aggressive Turkish opening and a probable lack of any Austrian support due to the Italian opening. Bouncing Sweden benefits England in the medium term, but the person it benefitted more than anyone there was Turkey. What the absolute fuck does anyone in the West want to help Turkey for? Rapid Turkish growth is the kiss of death to a Western solo, as it's so hard to reverse, and when it looked like A/I were fighting too... you need Turkey kept in check. That requires a strong Russia. So all in all, that was an atrocious turn. Write me 100 lines of "I must not be so short-sighted".

Italy: Jmo might be raving about your moves, and I see what he means, but I'm not quite so convinced by them. Tyrolia/Venice is fairly irrelevant to me - I see what you did there and why. But when the board was in such a beautiful spot for an I/T, slamming a brick down on Turkey's face was a really great way to ruin that by moving to the Aegean. Even if you turn back on Austria, it's cost you time, momentum, and trust. Bad. Bohemia was a good move, and Venice an average one. But I intensely dislike the Aegean Key there. The other problem with your strategy is that there is very little reason for Austria not to jump into an A/T here. You've taken the advantage you had and just gifted it to Austria. With Russia and Turkey fighting, F-Rum meaning Austria is under no Russian threat, and the Swedish bounce too, an Austrian invasion of Italy is not only possible but outright reasonable. Sure, it'll take him 2 turns, but I'd be looking very very closely at that option right now. He can easily fencesit for a year on A/T vs A/R and give promises for Autumn, whilst grabbing two SC's from you or sailing into Tunis. You really have to use the diplomatic options Bohemia has given you well. 50/50 stuff. No cookie.

Austria: Well, that turned around quickly. Italy handing you the advantage is fantastic - the already great start on your eastern flank with F-Rum is now combined with a much safer western flank. As just stated - you now have a very plausible invasion of Italy available to you, whilst still being able to attack Turkey or turn on Russia. Italy has thrown away his threat on you; Russia never had one in the first place and with the Swedish bounce on top, is now unlikely to develop one; and Turkey has just decided to smash his own face through a window and also have no threat on you. A 1902 Austria which is in a grand total of Zero provinces under immediate threat is fantastic. Great turnaround. Have a big cookie for your diplomatic work.

Russia: Bullet dodged! Turkey's inability to know how to attack someone has ensured you kept strength in the south. Germany's belligerence could be an issue on the horizon though, and you're far from out of the woods yet. A plausible Gin & Tonic could be about to put a lot more pressure on you, and that's without taking the English into consideration. I don't think it's in England's interests to cap STP with a fleet here, though you never know, so I'd probably be going A-War (A-Mos is just such a dumb reactive build). Italy possibly floating into Galicia and going on the attack against you can't be ruled out either, so there's threats everywhere. Even your apparent buddy Austria's great turn could be a negative, as he no longer has to fear Italy, but also has a Turkey that's being pushed close to him by the Italian move to Aegean, and thus an A/T could also form up here. Still, you did as well as could be expected, but you need to weave some diplomatic spells to rescue your situation here.

Turkey: What the actual fuck are you doing? Double bouncing yourself in Rumania, via convoy, to effectively waste an entire turn. You had Russia on the ropes and decided to just throw your money in the air before you'd actually won it. Mayweather would've knocked you out by now. The convoy was never an option - Sevastopol was guaranteed to support hold Rumania so you needed Armenia to tap Sev if you were going to go for Rumania. Leaving the Black Sea wouldn't have been bad because you'd have been disbanding the Russian fleet, and you'd have been able to build F-Con if he ran back to Sev with it anyway. Throw in the fact that Italy has moved to Aegean (not directly your fault, but it shows a failure in diplomacy on your part, and blows the previously promising IT option out of the window) and that turn was horrific for you. Now you need to cosy up to Austria, when Russia has a head start on you there, and Italy is probably doing the same. Germany might be able to rescue you against Russia, but an A/I could easily tear you to shreds here. Appalling turn. 200 lines of "I need to learn how to cut a support hold".
BFG (100 D)
24 Jul 15 UTC
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Hellenic Riot, basically you mean something like this:

England great year, everyone else average to shocking.

Pretty much like every game Balki plays on play dip too...
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
24 Jul 15 UTC
Who's idea was it to take up all of Skid/BFG's points with C&D2? Was it Sh@dow?
BFG (100 D)
24 Jul 15 UTC
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No idea what you are talking about valis, I haven't the foggiest idea about the points system over here. But have certainly enjoyed the experience, Thm, thewizard and Julian are brilliant players
What do you guy make of Turkey ready-ing his build? I think he has some options: F Smy, F Con or even A Con to make a deal with Italy. Does this mean Turkey has nobody to talk to anymore?

Another question: What communication is going on between France and Italy? If France knew Italy was going to move Ion-Bul, he could have convoyed Gas-Por, moved Mar-Spa, and built F Mar. Next turn Mao-Wes and Mar-Gol and the start of a great Western Triple.
Chumbles always readies his moves. Soooo I wouldn't necessarily read into it.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
24 Jul 15 UTC
I hate the fucking banners. If you're on 24/7 you can always change them.
TrPrado (461 D)
24 Jul 15 UTC
I feel lonely without the banners.
VillageIdiot (7813 D)
24 Jul 15 UTC
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Thanks for the exclusion BFG.
JamesYanik (548 D)
24 Jul 15 UTC
chumbles and peterwiggin done goofed
ghug (5068 D(B))
25 Jul 15 UTC
No, Daximus and Chumbles done goofed.

VI, I assumed you were left out because you're a PayDip guy. Sh@dow should probably be the one taking offense.
VillageIdiot (7813 D)
25 Jul 15 UTC
I'm a Renessance Man.
BFG (100 D)
25 Jul 15 UTC
Ghug assumed right! VI - a little sensitive are we...
VillageIdiot (7813 D)
25 Jul 15 UTC
Just tell me I look pretty.
ghug (5068 D(B))
25 Jul 15 UTC
I'm sorry, but I've seen a picture and I can't do that.
TrPrado (461 D)
25 Jul 15 UTC
Chumbles, what is this? Mr. Wiggins, what are you doing? Guys, I don't seem to understand.
Turkey: I was expecting you to try to either take Sev or take Rum. Why on Earth would you take Bul and just let the other 2 go free? I was hoping you'd be the one to make it through this game, but now I doubt.
Italy: Aeg aside, what is up with your armies? Having an army in Bohemia without any real aim is really bad, especially without builds or back-up from an army following behind in Tyrolia. The only unit I see that is driven by some sense of purpose is your fleet. And it speaks words against whatever you might hope to gain up that far north. Your units contradict one another, and you're playing a dangerous game. If you keep this up, you won't last too long.

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sitting_ovation (0 DX)
07 Dec 15 UTC
Ideas for fun special rule variants
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone played or has any ideas to play some special ruled variants of the game just to shake things up?
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brainbomb (290 D)
07 Dec 15 UTC
Idea for a Diplomacy Game
I know there is a vdip variant where you only have one SC but I think it would be interesting to get a game going on here where It has unique rules.
1. You can only move one unit per turn. And you can only move additional units for every SC you gain.
2. By Spring of the 2nd year you could be moving 2 units, and so on and so forth.
anyone ever done anything like that?
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2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
06 Dec 15 UTC
Metagaming Policy Reminder
I feel the need to clarify our stance on playing games with friends. See below.
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Ranscott47 (2874 D)
07 Dec 15 UTC
Austria missed 1st turn. Any takers?
Game ID=170684 Looking for someone to take the challenge of taking over Austria in Fall 1901. Don't want to have to cancel game so please help!
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jaydog (125 D)
06 Dec 15 UTC
Rules question?
Hi there, got a question about how the rules work.
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Nescio (1059 D)
02 Dec 15 UTC
In California ...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34987697
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ghug (5068 D(B))
06 Dec 15 UTC
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December GR
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist

Have fun!
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brainbomb (290 D)
05 Dec 15 UTC
Iowa vs Michigan State
Id bet you anything Iowa fucks this up lol. Theres no way Iowa is gonna make the college football playoffs.

Mich State - 35
Iowa - 13
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
03 Dec 15 UTC
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That baby I was gonna have
Well he finally decided to show up and meet the world! Gents, and rare ladies of WebDip...my offspring!

http://imgur.com/8tDt1XO
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
16 Nov 15 UTC
November Ghost Ratings
November GR is now up!
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wjessop (100 DX)
03 Dec 15 UTC
Star Wars: The Force Awakens
Discussion, questions, concerns, excitement.
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SkiingCougar (1581 D)
03 Dec 15 UTC
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Is this the longest game ever?
This game has been going for 2 (100 in game years) years as it is the 2012 world cup. It must be the longest or most back and forth game ever. In fact Austria was down to 1 supply centres near the 1/3 mark but is still alive! Imagine the commitment. If anyone has spectated all the way through I congratulate you, also well done to the players for the commitment they have shown.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=93086
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brainbomb (290 D)
04 Dec 15 UTC
Endless Legend = amazing civ style thrill ride
Im gonna say this takes warlock master of the arcane and makes it about a thousand times cooler. very hard game actually.
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brainbomb (290 D)
04 Dec 15 UTC
Wanna give a shout out to..
My DETROIT LIONS. I dont think weve swept the fudgepackers in my lifetime!!!
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Baskineli (100 D(B))
03 Dec 15 UTC
New game
Two of my games are about to be finished. Anyone in for a game?

WTA, full press, high RR. Who's in?
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KingCyrus (511 D)
28 Nov 15 UTC
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Our Almighty Master...
... has graced us with his presence today. I have seen a grand total of three, yes, THREE, whole comments by the omnipotent kestas today.

We must celebrate with a feast.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
03 Dec 15 UTC
US Military to open all combat roles to women
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2015/12/03/open-all-combat-jobs-to-women

Thoughts?
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
04 Dec 15 UTC
ITT: MFW I send/receive press
as above, below.
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wjessop (100 DX)
04 Dec 15 UTC
LIVE REPLACEMENT NEEDED
France gameID=170630
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wjessop (100 DX)
03 Dec 15 UTC
Wjessop inteacts with...
It's a game where you can post any word or phrase that Wjessop interacts with.

It's fun. It's new. Everyone's doing it!
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
28 Nov 15 UTC
So if I wanted to produce a pc-game...
How would I go about that? I probably need a team because I don't have the technical know-how. Where to start though?
No, I won't be jumping into this without knowing what the hell I'm doing. In fact, I won't start anytime soon. This is just the very first reconnaissance. What kind of people do I need and how do I know they'll do the job well? What can I reasonably do myself? I decide what the game should be like for the biggest part.
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lauridsena (910 D)
03 Dec 15 UTC
Rules question
What happens to a unit if retreat orders are not entered for it?
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Ludwig Van (50 DX)
02 Dec 15 UTC
New game special rules. World Match!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=170504

This is special rules for a world game. It's a Role Play of a United nations meeting.
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Octavious (2701 D)
02 Dec 15 UTC
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cancelled game message
An anonymous game was cancelled today and I never got the chance to say a final message to the Russian player who was at the centre of the game.

Sir, I salute you and your actions. Don't let that game get you down. Highest regards, Oct.
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Ludwig Van (50 DX)
02 Dec 15 UTC
tell me this isn't slightly disturbing
http://m.bradfordexchange.com/products/301881001_lifelike-breathing-baby-doll-.html?CATALOG_UPSELL=Y&SOURCE=Y&RECOMM=Y
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shield (3929 D)
27 Nov 15 UTC
Syrian Refugees
Http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unnamed7.jpg

Does anyone recall how during ww2 when the Allies started discovering concentration camps they set up a 2 year background check to make sure the jews weren't serial killers and rapists? Me niether. Discuss.
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