Ummm...Bump?

Anyone else picking?

Mine fell off the page :(. Obi you dream killer!

Just kidding with ya, Pats vs Giants, although I would enjoy seeing the 49ers win at home and lose in the Super Bowl.

Should be interesting...

The Giants are a perfect 4-0 in NFC Championship Games...including the 1990 upset of Joe Montana & Co. where Joe was knocked out of the game, Steve Young tried to engineer a comeback--Joe out, Steve in, ships passing in the night--and The Giants beat the 49ers, 15-13...

BUT...

The 49ers, on the other hand, are a perfect 5-0 in Super Bowls, AND not only beat the Giants during the regular season at home, but, the last Niners/Giants playoff game?

The 24-point Jeff Garcia/Terrell Owens comeback in the 2002 Wild Card Playoffs, with the 49ers overcoming a 38-14 lead to win 39-38.

SO.

History on both sides of the ball...and perfect records on the line:

Do the Giants keep their perfect record in NFC Championship Games intact?

OR do the 49ers have a shot at 6-0 in the Super Bowl, which would ALSO tie them with the Steelers for most Super Bowl wins overall?

Im not actually in this but I am gonna pick anyways

Pats Vs Ravens
Pats will win but not in a blowout. Ed reed is gonna play but no way it will be 100% and if Ed reed is even somewhat hurt Brady will exploit it. No mater how good the Ravens D is there is no way they can cover Welker, Gronk, and Hernandez because all 3 of these guys need to be double covered and then you have Branch and Ocho (kinda). The only way the Ravens will be able to shut down Brady is if they get to him all game but the O-line played lights out last game. Also no matter how bad the pats D is Flacco still sucks and it will be up to rice to carry the offense, No matter how good you are no running back can win a game by himself.

49ers- Giants.
I think the 49ers will come away with this one. Both teams have great defenses so I think it will be low scoring but the thing is the 49ers are at home which really does help. Eli wont be able to throw because the rush that the 49ers had against Brees was amazing and the Giants O-line is not that great. When he does get it off i think it will be for short gains and the 9ers should come away with a few picks. But what it really comes down to is if Smith has a good game. He needs to have some big plays and not throw any interceptions. Gore also needs to run the ball against a good D enough so Smith can throw. It should be a great game.

So as I said in your previous thread, its going to be a patriots-giants final. I am 5-5 so far this super bowl.

For the pats game, we played poorly and I am surprised we won. We got really lucky with the Ravens failing at everything in the final minute of the game.

Hopefully we will play better in the superbowl.

I got my first pick right, and now my Giants are finally in the lead! Sorry obi. You're front 4 is wrecking our offensive line, but we have a better defense than the Saints, but just as many weapons on offense :)

If you're not watching this game, you should. It's amazing

to much hw :(

Nice job G-men. My prediction actually came true for once.

49ers, I feel your pain.

Also, Patrick Willis is an absolute monster. Holy christ.

Now 6-6! (ironically I haven't been making predictions based on who I think will win, but who I want to win)

To make it 7 for 7 I pick Patriots beating the Giants. :)

The 49'ers defense just ate up the Giants offensive line, and great coverage too. Great game had by all.

So Obi was 0 for 2, does this mean in his little tourney thingy he is iliminated :)

That stage, past seething rage and frustration and agony...when you've stopped screaming and shaking your fist at whatever--or WHOEVER--has so angered you?

I'm two stops past that right now, can't even speak...

And it's a game, but I DO NOT CARE...

Alex Smith--296 YDs, 2 TDs, 40+ YDs rushing...not his fault, he did his job...
Frank Gore, 74 YDs, and chewed the clock...not his best, but not his fault, he was OK...
Vernon Davis, 113 Yds, 2 TDs...he did his job, too, not his fault...
49ers Defense, 20 given up, numerous stands, sacked Eli 6 times...not their fault...

KYLE WILLIAMS.

0 CATCHES
DOVE FOR A PUNT, BARELY CAUGHT IT, BOBBLED, ALMOST LOST IT...
LOST THE BALL ON A REVERSE, RECOVERED, LOST 10 YDS ON THE PLAY...
LOST 2 FUMBLES ON PUNTS...
IN HIS OWN TERRITORY...
OBLIVIOUS AS #1 HITS HIS KNEE...
LOSES #2 RUNNING RIGHT TOWARDS A WALL OF GIANTS IN OT...
10 SCORED OFF KYLE WILLIAMS' FUMBLES...
17-10 NINERS WITHOUT KYLE WILLIAMS...
WITHOUT #1, NINER BALL AFTER A GIANTS 3-AND-OUT, NINERS LEAD IN THE 4TH...
WITHOUT #2, NINER BALL AT THE 35-40 OF SF IN OT FOR ALEX AND CO...

I can handle losing.
I root for the Mets and 49ers.
Both have been regular losers this past decade.
Losing doesn't bother me.
The Mets were 1 hit away from the WS in 2006.
They lost.
But they lost as a team...Beltran, Ollie Perez, others...they lost as a team.
It hurt--but at least I could say the team that deserved to win, did, and the Mets lost fairly.

To be undone by ONE MAN...and A BACKUP...making the same mistake TWICE...
The other 49ers played just fine...it's his fault.
That may sound unfair, or just the anger talking...but it's HIS fault...really, just his.
He gave away 10 , and committed the same mistake TWICE.
Take away 10, and the 49ers win.
Take away 7 or 3, for either fumble, the 49ers win or have a shot near the 40 in OT.

This is WORSE than Bill Buckner for the Red Sox in 1986.
Buckner gets a LOT of heat for the ball that bounced through his legs...
But the score was ALREADY tied, Schiraldi and Stanley ALREADY had blown the lead.
And so, the Red Sox LOST AS A TEAM.
What's more, Buckner was an integral part of that Sox team, they're not even w/o him.

This wasn't losing as a team.
This was ONE SCRUB LOSING IT FOR EVERYONE WHO REALLY CONTRIBUTED.
0 CATCHES
20 ALL YEAR
Without even ONE of his blunders, Niners either win or have an excellent shot at a win.
And, unlike Buckner, his record with the team doesn't save him.
If it'd been an Alex INT that cost us--no problem, he helped get us there, he's paid his due.
If it'd been a Vernon Davis fumble, OK--his Catch III got us here, he's huge, he's fine.
If it'd been Gore, I could live with that--He's carried the team so many years, he's due.
If it'd been a bad tackle by Willis, Rodgers, or any of the Pro Bowl D--#1 , fine.

0 CATCHES TODAY, 20 ALL YEAR, AND *BOTH* FUMBLES LOST COST US THE GAME...

The Giants played SPECTACULARLY, but sorry, goldfinger, they did NOT beat the 49ers.

Kyle Williams' obliviousness did.

He may be a nice guy, but, I'm sorry--HE BEAT HIS OWN TEAM.



Watched this game in a bar, with 6 friends of mine, 1 another huge Niner fan...
PACKED, 49er fans all over the place, huge TVs, beer...
It was a great atmosphere...
Kyle Williams fumbles both times...

That place was DEAD in minutes.

I was miserable as a kid when the 49ers lost to the Falcons in the '98 Divisional Game.
I was dejected when the Mighty Ducks lost Game 7 of the 2003 Stanley Cup.
I was crushed when the Mets lost Game 7 of the 2006 NLCS.

I feel worse than it is healthy or fair to feel about a game lost...but it's because of the loss:

It's the WAY we lost.

The 49ers in '98 lost Hearst the 2nd play of the game, and got crushed by the Falcons.
The Mighty Ducks all missed shots and let in goals, the Devils just were better.
The Mets just choked, first Ollie and the offense, then Beltran at the plate...but as a team.

NEVER have I experience one person, committing the same mistake TWICE, ruining the entire season for EVERYONE--for the coach, players, AND fans--where, if that guy doesn't play, hell, if he has an innocent cold or tells the coach to put someone else in, if he's not there...

His team wins...BECAUSE he didn't play.

Kyle Williams wears #10.



It should be #-10, for the points the points he cost us, and for being the factor that lost the game for the 49ers, and ended the Dream Season.

To lose, like that...the Ducks in #13th place...the Mets bottomed out...no 49ers until August...

Not sure I can watch the Super Bowl this year--hate Brady, can't bring myself to root for the Giants now--and no hope for summer relief...

It's going to be a long night, and long summer of discontent sports-wise.

Well, I'm sorry to hear your hatred for the Giants, obi. They have a habit now of making Packers fans seething mad, as well as Patriots fans (my gf is a Pats fan and won't look at me when the Giants play) so I guess its San Fran's turn. Idk, maybe its because the Giants were always the underdogs, but I've never really hated a team that beat them....unless it was the Cowboys or the Eagles. Then I'd be in a rage.

But I will agree with you on the fact that the 49ers outplayed the Giants - not by much in many cases - but the Giants were helped out a lot by Kyle Williams. I have to say, if it weren't for two lucky shots to Vernon Davis, the 49ers would have had something closer to 9 at the end of the game. Without those two shots and without Kyle Williams, what a game that would've been in the 4th quarter, 9-10. Still, this was a Super Bowl caliber game. Eli was taking much too much punishment for my taste, and San Fran never let our guys get open (I did laugh though in the 3rd when your corners ran into each other trying to intercept a ball...well, until I saw one was injured anyways).

And excellent game by all means. The 49ers defense was by far the best in the NFL this year, but the Giants defense came together for another great game. If we had played like this all year, we would've had a top ten, maybe even top 5 defense!

If its any consolation, you scored just as much as the Packers did on us, and way more than the Falcons.

But that was a very nerve racking game to watch obi, and next year looks to be very promising for the Niners. If you want some sports winning this spring, become a Yankees fan :)

Giants and Pats, both really exciting games. @fasces, hopefully Gronk will be ready for the Super Bowl, but I think he should sit out the Pro Bowl just in case his ankle isn't healed...Imagine playing without Gronk, terrible!

I don't hate the Giants, goldfinger...I was rooting for them last week, I usually root for them unless they're playing the 49ers...

I just can't believe we lost like THAT!

We tied the record for least amount of turnovers in a season!

We had NO turnovers all season on special teams!

And to lose because of THAT...because of a backup kick returner...?!

Some people try and defend Williams, and say "Well, the offense didn't do well."

NEITHER offense was that great today...Eli was good, but he was sacked 6 times, and after letting him hook up with Cruz like every other play in the 1st half, the 49ers came back in the 2n half and shut him down, mostly, and kept the Giants to 10 .

AND the offense did as well as they usually do--no better, no worse...

They weren't great, but they didn't DISAPPOINT me...I knew coming in we'd probably score 17 to 24 or so...

They did just what they promised to do--score enough points to win a defensive game.

Smith to Davis twice on bombs for 2 TDs.

Akers hit the FG when we needed it.

Gore had 74 YDs and 6 catches.

About the only disappointing thing was the WRs had one catch all day, Crabtree for 3 YDs, but still...

THAT isn't what lost the game.

We were AHEAD 14-10 when we got the first Williams-fumbled-punt back with 11 minutes in the 4th quarter...

A FG there, 17-10, and the way the defense was playing...
A TD, and it's 21-10, and the game at that point might have been in hand.
Bu NO.

The one aspect of the 49ers' game that failed failed TWICE, HADN'T failed all season...failed because he was oblivious (HOW THE HELL DO YOU NOT KNOW TO GET AWAY FROM THE DAMN BALL IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CATCH IT?! HOW DO YOU NOT PROTECT IT BETTER IN OT AFTER YOU'VE LOS IT ONCE?!)

That's what bugs me...that it was a backup guy who was really a nobody on the team.

If it's Alex Smith--sucks for him, but I'd be alright with it, with him...he had a decent year...
If it's Frank Gore--OK, he carried this team for years, he's due a mistake...
If it's Vernon Davis--fine, we're not here without his TD catches anyway...
If it's the Defense--I could live with that, we're DEFINITELY not here without them.

It feels like the Niners were shot in the foot by one of their own...

They didn't lose to the Giants, they lost to a damn backup nobody!

And I hate to put so much blame on him, he probably is a nice guy and feels terrible, but its deserved here...



NOBODY will say the 49ers would have lsot this game without those two fumbles, AT WORST it's a 17-17 tie in OT and they hang onto the ball and get the chance to either win OR lose to Eli Manning on a deep pass, fair and square.

They lost because a scrub wasn't concentrating TWICE, made the same mistake TWICE--THREE TIMES if you count the reverse he fumbled early and fell on for a loss of 10 YDs!--and didn't learn from his mistake.

I mean...

First, he fumbles the reverse...

THEN he DIVES for a punt--WHY?! You're not going to have time to get up and run, and he almost muffed THAT punt, too!

THEN he has the ball hit him in the leg, doesn't know to either just get out of the damn way or field it...

And FINALLY, he fumbles it OT, running right into a line of Giants defenders full-steam, with the ball held high and open for a swat-out, which is exactly what happened!



IN ANY PROFESSION...YOU MUST LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES--HE DIDN'T!

AND *HE* COST US A TRIP TO INDIANAPOLIS!

I don't blame anyone really BUT Williams, because the WORST you can say about the rest of the team is a 1-for-13 conversion rate on 3rd down...

Bad, but still, it's hard for me to blame THAT on the loss, because the 49ers WERE WINNING like that until the fumbles...I can't fault them that when they were still winning and in control of the game, 14-10 and getting the ball back and shutting ou the Giants offense in the 2nd half UNTIL THE FIRST FUMBLE.

Kyle Williams lost it, we lost to Kyle Williams, not the Giants...

It was a great game, but to end like THAT?!

Not with a bang from Vernon Davis or Eli Manning or either defense, but with the whimper of some scrub making the same mistake AGAIN AND AGAIN, when, in essence, if he'd just fair-caught those balls, or let them bounce and got the hell out of the way, San Francisco wins...

Not only did it kill the fun of a San Fran win, it killed the fun of a Giants win a bit period!

I like the Giants, it could still have been fun if they'd won on a Manning bomb deep, strength against strength, 49ers D vs. Manning...

How anticlimactic is it when it's lost because of THAT? :/

It was a bit anti-climactic. Still, I was starting to think it would head into double overtime or something obnoxious like that.

But hey, I was sweating that whole time when the game was tied and the 49ers had it, because I knew it was over if they got in range of Akers....which is 60 yards or something crazy like that.

But I agree with you obi. While both teams played great, the 49ers had a slight edge without those two fumbles

"Well, I'm sorry to hear your hatred for the Giants, obi. They have a habit now of making Packers fans seething mad, as well as Patriots fans (my gf is a Pats fan and won't look at me when the Giants play) so I guess its San Fran's turn."
I am a pats fan and I was cheering for the Giants...

"@fasces, hopefully Gronk will be ready for the Super Bowl, but I think he should sit out the Pro Bowl just in case his ankle isn't healed...Imagine playing without Gronk, terrible!"
yeah. Who cares about pro-bowl...

That's odd. Or maybe just my gf has an inexplicable hatred for the Giants. Why were you rooting for the Giants? (my guess is either for revenge in the Superbowl or because the 49ers were the team you were more afraid of)

Oh, Double-OT would have been AMAZING...I don't think it would've gone that far, but it would've been one of the greatest games in playoff history...

If it ended with a Smith-to-Savis or Eli-to-Cruz bomb, THAT would've been awesome.

Not..oh, Kyle Williams, not...!

Gonna be a bitter Super Bowl to watch...can't root for the Patriots, if they win, Brady probably supplants Joe Montana as the best ever with 4 SB wins and 5 trips...plus I find him annoying...

Go Eli, I guess, I usually like the Giants (by the way, last thought here--was anyone else REALLY getting tired of Joe Buck and Troy Aikman showing and mentioning the 1990 NFC Championship game OVER and OVER and OVER? No, don't mention the Niners beat the Giants during the regular season...OR the epic 24-point comeback the 49ers had against the Giants in the 2002 Wild Card, no, just show the Giants beating the 49ers over and over again...see? Even FOX SPORTS IS BIASED! AND IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL TO HAVE AN EX-COWOBY--AIKMAN--CALL A 49ERS GAME!)

;)