too funny ava. missed you over the past month. HAs anyone heard from 5nk?

And away we go.

5nk- not in a long time- hope he comes back for a few games at least.

he was a great player. i feel live game player quality has gone down in the last little while.

5nk is kind of like yoda in the gunboat world. Probably off meditating in some world.

This will be a fun EOG

Oh yes

hmmm. I'd like to hear , when it's over, why the draws so late and why turkey and russia refused.

I'd like to hear a lot of more explanations.

*other explanations

good game all. France, my next orders were to block Russia in the MAO. I had no desire to conquer you. I just needed to get fleets in place to stop russia from winning.

ah, I never doubted you- gulp :)

gg, everyone- man, I was on the defensive all game.

EOG for Austria:

Excellent start. I couldn't have been happier. I mean, A SMY-ARM might have made me smile, but whatever. 2 builds.

From here on, it was evident that there was an R/T. I got into AEG and tried to support Italy in there...until here he has played an excellent lepanto.

But at this point, he decides to play stupid and turn around to take a potshot at France. Then he finally notices the Turkish fleet and decides to send two of his units back. Germany goes and misses 2 crucial build phases, and it's a great big surprise to me that nobody manages to get into his centers during this time. France is getting triple teamed on and England is mucking around in Scandinavia like a baby.

Honestly, the three who drew were the only fine players in this game. I'm glad I took Italy down with me.

ava had me pegged for France then Germany. Did he guess anyone right?

All I want is a rematch :'(

He pegged me as Russia. Something about my tendency to stab....not sure where that's coming from...

Are you guys actually going to post EOGs?

Russia never stabbed that game, though. I actually was hoping I could get a 17/17 split with Turkey. Well, right up to the first time he took Budapest.

Italy did play a rather fruitless game, though. As did England, for that matter.

And I didn't want to draw while Germany was still around to reap any rewards.

I had Barn3tt as one of the juggernaut nations. Since Turkey made a premature stab for BUD (premature, imho), I pegged Barn3tt down as Russia. Excellent game Bob.

EOG from Russia's POV:

1. When Turkey didn't go to Armenia, it cleared up exactly who I was going after in the south. It's just so much easier to connote a juggernaut in gunboat than an A/R. As to the north, I was pissed by Germany bouncing my fleet from Sweden, but it did force me to play a more cautious game. Seriosuly, though, is there anything less of a threat to anyone than a Russian fleet in Sweden in the early game?

2. Germany was hard for me to figure out for the first few years. By 04, though, it seemed to me like I was in his decision-making loop. Had England once checked the orders and seen that I was trying like hell to give him peace in Scandinavia, then Germany would have died much quicker.

Here's mine- I decided to start off with a safe standard opening. I thought that Germany's moves might indicate a move Burgundy, but figured I'd be OK with 3 builds and England would be tied down in Scandinavia.

England's move to NAO through a wrench in this plan. I then decided to hunker down and hopefully force England to turn on Germany due to being frustrated in his attacks on me. This kind of worked. England's game eventually became on of vacillation between multiple enemies he had made.

Italy's attack on me was well-timed. Partly out of spite and partly due to seeing an emerging R-T that would pull him east, I decided to sacrifice Marseilles rather than Brest. As I predicted, Italy was forced east and I was able to retake Marseilles with ease.

My mid game was frustrating. My hoped for target was England, but having one fleet forced me to try for Belgium. Eventually I was able to get another fleet, but by that time the Turk was upon me.

My forces valiantly held him off until an exhausted and humiliated Sultan finally sued for peace.... at least, that's how I remember it- :-)

It was certainly quite the balancing act trying to survive between the two behemoths, R and T.

From a distance, it looked like France played one hell of a defensive game. When Italy was doing his "Let's see some pretty red lines moving back and forth on the map" offensive in around 02-04, every time Italy turned Franceward, I was thinking that was the end, given that France had no other friends in the west.

His first attempt was rather scary. The second one wasn't.

ok here's mine:
I hoped by moving to Con Russia would realize I wanted peace. When he sat in Sev and took Rum with the army I knew he was on my side. I tried to show him I was anti Austrian by attacking Ser. When Italy set up the Lepanto. I thought this would be a quick game for me. I would like to know why he turned west. His change of heart and Russia's support allowed the Juggernaut to start rolling. I honestly thought that Barn was Russia. The way he left an army in Bud and a F in Rum, allowed me to keep things at a minimum too. It wasn't until the 3 build year that I feared Russia would turn on me. I knew I couldn't plug the holes as fast as he could exploit them so I had to strike. At this time I thought Russia was ava. Russia, BOB, did a great job playing defense while taking control of the north. Near the end, I voted for a draw hoping France would get my intent of peace. He did. My last orders before the draw were to move Spa-MAO with support from NAf and WMed. It was a good game.

hmmm. I'd like to hear , when it's over, why the draws so late and why turkey and russia refused.

sneaky Czech

I know why I didn't draw. Why didn't Russia?

There was never any reason for either of you to draw until the end. Rarely, did the forces arrayed against you match your combined firepower. That is until you turned on each other.

That's my theory- no A-I really, and the west was a mess.

Now about that rematch...I mean you guys sound awake as ever. And my problem set is writing itself quite easily.

Not tonight. I'm logging out. Have a good morning everyone.

Cheers

Well, I didn't draw because Germany was still around. Plus, I had a reasonable shot at winning; France and Turkey were pretty tied up, and the main area where anyone could grow on the board was around the North Sea, where I was sitting pretty. Once I sucked that dry, and couldn't get enough force into France quickly to really offset my potential losses in the south, a draw started looking mighty nice.

good night/morning, all
until next time

As to a rematch, I'd happily play sometime, but if I played now, I'd just be stupid.

"Italy did play a rather fruitless game, though. As did England, for that matter."

This made me laugh - as you are right, I played terribly as Italy last night. That'll teach me not to play at 3am whilst trying to do German grammar work (even if it is a gunboat).

I look forward to hopefully being able to play a rematch with you guys - maybe a passworded game?

I'm down. Not tonight, as I have a funeral to attend, but maybe tomorrow night.