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CSteinhardt (9560 D(B))
21 Jun 12 UTC
Ethical Question
Looking for advice from others on webDip
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worm (161 D)
21 Jun 12 UTC
The problem of NMRs
What can be done to reduce the problem of NMRs and abandoning players?
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flc64 (1963 D)
22 Jun 12 UTC
Extra Time Added
I am in several games that are 24 hour periods that now have greater than 24 hours until the next phase.

What's up with that?
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Tyran (914 D)
22 Jun 12 UTC
World diplomacy match needs players!
gameID=92149 it's a full press world diplomacy match. Needs 3 players in as many hours. Join now please!
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
15 Jun 12 UTC
Obama/Department To Halt Deportation of "Dreamer" Illegal Immigrants
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/report-white-house-halt-deportation-young-illegal-immigrants-133800284.html

I applaud this...I think it's a great decision...Obama to give a speech on this shortly around 10:15 Pacific Time. Thoughts on the decision itself and the impact on the 2012 race>
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
20 Jun 12 UTC
They Improve Their Appetite When They Exercise (Just As Long As No Skinny People Snicker)
http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/gym-bans-skinny-people-173000110.html
Banning skinny people from a gym...because it "brings down morale"...
Isn't that sort of like getting rid of all the smart kids in class because it makes the schmucks who think "The Day After Tomorrow" is scientifically accurate feel badly when they fail? WHEN did the West develop this "fear of failure" self-esteem issue?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
22 Jun 12 UTC
A message of hope for Diablo fans
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18532670
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
21 Jun 12 UTC
There Can Be Only One--Which Actors/Films Pull Off The Character Best?
The many Bonds...the many Doctors...the different Darens...different Marx Bros. and Stooges...the many Hamlets and Holmes...the originals and remakes and re-imaginings...

Give a role with multiple actors, or a story with multiple adaptations, and say which one you take over the other(s) and why...which are the DEFINITIVE portrayals and films, and which are...not? ;)
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
22 Jun 12 UTC
Is this GunBoat perfection?
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Leonidas (635 D)
21 Jun 12 UTC
Attention participants of ***Egos Aside*** GUNBOAT
we have made the roster available to everyone so that there is no advantage of any sort to anyone....
two of you are not identified, check this thread out to add your user name please, or just add it here...... thanks

threadID=887469
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0ri0n (0 DX)
21 Jun 12 UTC
What is Christianity?
Obviously, I know that its like one of the most popular religion out there but coming from a very anti-christian background, I dont really know what they actually believe. I know the basics like that Jesus is God but like how do you get into heaven and stuff? This is NOT a debating forum.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
21 Jun 12 UTC
Crisis and democracy
Brace yourselves
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Invictus (240 D)
21 Jun 12 UTC
Could China Annex the Moon?
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/06/18/red_moon_rising?page=full
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
Jazz
Talk about jazz
Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
Jazz has always been my dark-horse favorite genre. Never quite on top, but always number two as the top spot went to classical, old school hip hop, the like.

But recently I don't know what happened. I just began to appreciate jazz oh so much more. I saw the art in it, not just the cool of it.

Taking jazz history about two years ago was illuminating and made me see it differently but still I didn't quite get it.

I now think I get it. Jazz is masterful. Improvisation is amazing. The whole jazz system is just... remarkable.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
Okayokayokay I rephrase:

Talk about jazz, *please*
Draugnar (0 DX)
11 Jun 12 UTC
Can you be a little more specific? Fusion? Jazz Standards? Big Band? Smooth? Contemporary? Modern? It's like saying "Let's talk about Rock" or even "Let's talk about Classical".
yebellz (729 D(G))
11 Jun 12 UTC
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/11/18/116-black-music-that-black-people-dont-listen-to-anymore/
Don't forget Be-Bop. Charlie Parker, Thelonius Munk. I tend lean toward Fusion, though.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
lol this guy knows. ^

anyway. I'm thinking like 20s, 50s, 60s. The good stuff, you know, but I won't stop you from talking about other things.

See when I make threads I try to make them really general sometimes because I know how easily we can get off topic on this site. So I try to make the OP really broad so as to have the highest chance of still relating to what's being said when the thread ends.

I remember you saying you like jazz Draug who's your favorite artist?

I'm a big fan of Louis Armstrong of course, Art Blakey, Brubeck, Charlie Parker, among others.

I actually love it all right now so it's hard to even say. I have always loved Miles Davis and Dave Brubeck the most though.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
I don't actually love fusion that much. I think the reason why is probably because my favorite kinds of music have always been those kinds that are furthest removed from rock bands. That's changing, but tastes die hard. I liked jazz first because it was instrumental, improvisational, and used orchestral instruments to a different effect, very very interesting to me. Jazz fusion just made it some kind of weird rock. Lol.

Also, fuck smooth jazz. Hahahaha.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
Also let me just reaaaal quickly point out that this is a GREAT venue to post your favorite songs for us all to hear!
Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
ill just kick off with west end blues

also has anyone seen any good movies or documentaries or books on jazz?

i saw part of ken burn's jazz a few months ago, looks pretty good.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
Watch the shit out of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W232OsTAMo8
Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpuR1BVXVCM
yo im from louisiana and mad props for your taste

Actually, I end up taking a lot of flak for this given my home state and all, but... I'm not really that into jazz. It's nice background music at a restaurant, but I can't listen to it standalone, only as a backup to something else.
2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
As the great Charlie Parker once said to me: "Jazzy, give me some heroin."
eskel96 (693 D)
11 Jun 12 UTC
apparently both cannon ball adderley and coltrane were in miles davis' band at the same time. there are two saxes on kind of blue
Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1DNA4q14fM
Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
I felt that way a while about jazz, PE, especially certain types.

I don't really know what changed. I think it was when I heard some fucking crazy ass trumpet duet improv.

It really was every bit as complex and pleasing as a Bach invention, but it was improvised by TWO PEOPLE AT ONCE

I was totally bowled over by that. I'm still trying to figure out what recording it was.
Putin33 (111 D)
11 Jun 12 UTC
Jazz is ok in small doses. My in-laws play it non-stop, smooth jazz, of the Rippingtons variety. Can give me a headache after a while.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
Smooth jazz is very headache inducing. I can confirm this. My mom always has it on. Kenny G, etc.

Sidenote - too lazy to fact check this, but I have heard that the best-selling jazz album OF ALL TIME is the Kenny G Christmas album.

I want you all to think about that for a second.
Oh, I'm not saying jazz is bad/not complex/etc. Its complexity and the skill involved in producing it speaks for itself. It's just not (yet?) my cup of tea.
Putin33 (111 D)
11 Jun 12 UTC
Kenny G is a skilled musician. It's still elevator music though.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Jun 12 UTC
Yeah you can be skilled, but that doesn't give your stuff soul. A lot of classical musicians I know who aren't going anywhere have that problem. The technique is there, they just don't feel it. Classical probably isn't for them. Or maybe they'll grow some and go somewhere. It was rude of me to imply they'll never go anywhere. It's just that they're not now.

And PE, all I can really say about jazz that is what makes it so appealing will be expressed with a few words indicative of types of jazz through the ages.

Blue notes and the blues.
Swinging notes and the feeling that is swing.
The coolness and poise of jazz.
The modernity of jazz.
The abstract-looking nature that is actually a harmonic system all its own.

That last fascinates me. When jazz was first arriving in the American music scene, it sounded like claptrap nonsense, like avant-garde you might say, to many listeners, but gradually people began to understand the system it used and learned to love it.

The whole thing revolves around blue notes. It's just so soulful dude I don't know how else to express it.

In my head I have two generalized divisions of what I think of as good jazz.

There is "cool" jazz (and I don't mean Cool Jazz), which is what it sounds like - cool, maybe uptempo, maybe down, but cool. Chilled. Poise.

Then there is soulful jazz which is a wailing kind of thing basically taken straight off of old southern black blues singers in the 1890s. That kind of playing and singing just doesn't get old for me, even if it is pretty simplistic after a while.
Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Jun 12 UTC
My jazz tastes vary all over the spectrum. Keiko Matsui (Japanese jazz on piano) is one of my favorite current original artists. For standards, I am a huge fan of Diana Krall. I'm a fan of "classic" smooth jazz like George Benson, Grover Washington, Jr., Al Jarreau,
Bob James, Davis Sanborn, and Davis Benoit
Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Jun 12 UTC
Phone submitted to soon...

I am also a fan of real jazz like Dizzy Gilespie, Charlie Parker, and Miles Davis. And finally I enjoy a lot of fusion especially Chick Corea.

Oh and big band - both old and neo from Stan Kenton to Maynard Ferguson.
hammac (100 D)
12 Jun 12 UTC
I'm still learning about jazz - so much to enjoy but some that leaves me colder than cold.

I'm addicted to Jan Garbarek (http://www.myspace.com/jangarbarekecm) at the moment - it'll change!
spyman (424 D(G))
12 Jun 12 UTC
I like Jazz but I don't love it. Of course the classics like Miles Davis and John Coltrane are amazing, though. I do quite like listening to jazz fusion bands live. I used to be involved in the Brisbane live music scene and there were heaps of Jazz bands but they would usually encorporate some other musical styles into their sound, which meant they could share a venue with other music acts (indie pop for example).
I play guitar myself - mostly pop/folk/rock and I have always envied jazz musicians ability to improvise. It takes a lot of talent to play jazz.
Timur (673 D(B))
12 Jun 12 UTC
1920's New Orleans.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
12 Jun 12 UTC
Jazz musicians blow me away every time. Even mediocre ones are amazing when they're improvising.
Hey what about Chuck Mangione?
AtomicOrangutan (95 D)
14 Jun 12 UTC
Gotta love Jazz since I'm a saxophone player myself. I've always liked Louis Armstrong and Coltrane. Ron Holloway is also great
Draugnar (0 DX)
14 Jun 12 UTC
Chuck's best album ever doesn't seem to be on CD. It's called Tarantellas and has a special guest of Dizzy Gilespie. His second best is the score to The Children of Sanchez followed closely by Live at the Hollywood Bowl.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
14 Jun 12 UTC
I always liked Coltrane. Playing trumpet among other not-so-jazzy instruments, I've heard a lot of him. He and Parker are my favorites.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
14 Jun 12 UTC
it sucks that charlie parker died.

it sucks that any of them died tbh
Frank (100 D)
14 Jun 12 UTC
I don't listen to jazz much at all anymore but my favorite album of all time is the Koln Concert by Keith Jarrett. You should all check it out immediately:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU7ZuVZHqTk
Frank (100 D)
14 Jun 12 UTC
Also, some Herbie, surprised no one's mentioned him in this thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQsSQRWMhOs
Mujus (1495 D(B))
15 Jun 12 UTC
Anyone near Newburyport, Mass. heard the Chuck Walker Trio yet? Recently moved there from San Diego. He's on Reverbnation on Facebook.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
21 Jun 12 UTC
I just got "Louis Armstrong: Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man" in the mail and damnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Good shit
hammac (100 D)
21 Jun 12 UTC
Just been listening to Water Babies - the great Miles Davis - brilliant!
Draugnar (0 DX)
21 Jun 12 UTC
Sketches of Spain and Stockholm 1960 (live with John Coltrane) are my two favorite Miles albums.
Draugnar (0 DX)
21 Jun 12 UTC
This is the Miles/Coltrane Stockholm I have:

http://www.amazon.com/Legendary-Concert-Miles-Davis/dp/B000008AQ6/ref=sr_1_8?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1340292658&sr=1-8&keywords=stockholm+miles+davis

But I'm very tempted to pick up this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Stockholm-1960-Complete-Miles-Davis/dp/B00000AW2R/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_1
Thucydides (864 D(B))
21 Jun 12 UTC
nice. if i was richer i would, for sure.
Draugnar (0 DX)
21 Jun 12 UTC
I guess I forget sometimes that $30 is big money to some folks on here.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
21 Jun 12 UTC
lmao the Armstrong CDs I ordered were used, $10, and that was splurging :P


worth it though i might add
Draugnar (0 DX)
21 Jun 12 UTC
LOL! Lunch today was $11.25 before tip. Eiyh tip, $13. I spemnt more on lunch than you did on the CD!
Draugnar (0 DX)
21 Jun 12 UTC
With, not Eiyh (last hand was off by one key).
Draugnar (0 DX)
21 Jun 12 UTC
left, not last. That was just a brain fart.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
21 Jun 12 UTC
Jesus Christ lmao. Sorry, I would likely make almost as many typos if I came to this site on my douche.

Wait, not douche, I meant blood. Wait no I meant phone, not blood.

:P


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Fortress Door (1837 D)
21 Jun 12 UTC
WTA GB-21
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=92419
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SweetnessFSU (127 D)
21 Jun 12 UTC
Leave game
how can you leave a game after it starts?
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Bbrett93 (100 D)
20 Jun 12 UTC
The Contention Centers: Belgium, Sweden, and Greece
In my opinion, these three centers cause the most drama in 1901.
Who has the most claim to them, and how do you negotiate your nations units into them?
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fortknox (2059 D)
21 Jun 12 UTC
Diplomacy Class 1 discussion
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=82023#gamePanel
A bit embarrassing that it ends in a 2-way if it is called a 'class', but I'm interested in other's thoughts. There are some frustrations I had with the game, but I'm not bitter because I lost. Feel free to share your feelings, especially to the 8 (we had a sub) that played.
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hammac (100 D)
21 Jun 12 UTC
Joan Baez
Saw Joan Baez at the Zenith in Caen (France) last night!
Abxolutely superb and she's 71. Still believable in her support for the beliefs and causes that she's been fighting for over so many years.

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Zmaj (215 D(B))
20 Jun 12 UTC
EoG: Gunboat-326
gameID=92320 The unglorious rape of France.
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joshildinho101 (128 D)
21 Jun 12 UTC
Quick game gameID=92351
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emfries (0 DX)
21 Jun 12 UTC
Which is Better: Remix or Original?
The original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1cxP2nCBdU
The remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlnS6KfskbU
I hate rap music, but given that it's made by a few goons from my hometown, I gave it a chance. Debate.
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
20 Jun 12 UTC
How can you deal with obtuse 'morons' who will never give credit to opposing arguments?
Serious question. When you're debating, discussing, or arguing with people and they simply won't accept other points of view, even after reams of evidence, how can you respond? Is it best just to walk away or should we strive to educate?

How would you deal with someone utterly convinced that the Earth was flat, for example?
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hellalt (70 D)
20 Jun 12 UTC
Webdiplomacy.net FB Fan page
in case you didn't know there is one :P
Join it at http://www.facebook.com/webdiplomacy
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
20 Jun 12 UTC
How old is the Earth?
How old do you think the world is? Do you believe the scientists (Billlions of years) or do you think its only few thousand years old. Give me your entire argument
96 replies
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
20 Jun 12 UTC
Histrionic Personality Disorder
Read and think of anyone on here who might perhaps have this.
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King Atom (100 D)
20 Jun 12 UTC
will i go to hell for posting cheating accusations in the forum?
Also, who's nietzscheptzhedkfj? is he knew?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
19 Jun 12 UTC
Anyone here get into darts?
I've been watching some late night darts on ESPN2 or some such. And it really looks like an enjoyable combination of throwing skill, math skill, and strategy.
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
20 Jun 12 UTC
Winner Takes All vs. Point Distribution
See below.
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jmbostwick (2308 D)
19 Jun 12 UTC
England Gunboat Strategy
First in a series of threads discussing country-specific tactics for gunboat (no-messaging) games.
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