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The_Master_Warrior (10 D)
22 Feb 11 UTC
New Game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=51248
World Map, 36 hour turns, 5 point buy-in, all messaging allowed, not anonymous.
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rollerfiend (0 DX)
22 Feb 11 UTC
Question: resigning
what happens if you quit or resign the game, do you get any points back

and what if you keep missing turns what happens then
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President Eden (2750 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Quality of play on different sites
Without turning this into a giant webDip ego stroke, how do you feel the quality of play at other sites stacks up to webDiplomacy? If you could include specific sites for comparison (just names, no links necessary) that'd be wonderful.
I definitely feel like the quality here is superior to the other sites I've been at. Specifically, I had very brief tenures at PlayDiplomacy and the Facebook app. PlayDiplomacy games generally seemed to have less communicable players with inferior tactics all-around; even in the fledgling stages of my career I found myself playing very well for the positions I'd find myself in. I say "for the positions I'd find myself in" because my actual tenure there was not very successful: every game I played had a crucial CD or several CDes early. When I couldn't get any pauses on the games I was in while I went to a national debate tournament in late May, I just never came back. I stayed here (I had just started out here at the time) and I'm glad I did.

And Facebook Diplomacy is just horrendous. I'm in a high-stakes game that supposedly has several top-100 players or so and they'd be middle of the road here, no question. Granted, I've seen a couple of very good players there, and I'm sure the top tier there could handle the upper echelon here, but the quality of play outside of that group is not very good. And CDes are a huge problem. Thanks to both, I'm about to win as Italy... in 1906... with 11 units. I KOed Austria by about 1903, Turkey CDed, Russia got in trouble up north and the West ignored me completely (plus France is about to CD...). I just feel like this wouldn't happen in comparably-important games here.

Also played on vdiplomacy, but seeing as how it's basically the same community on a variant-themed version of this site, I don't think there's much to say.

Maybe I have a colored opinion; I'm no veteran of any of those other sites. But I feel like this site has the best quality of play of anywhere I've tried.

For those that are veterans of other auto-adjudicator sites, e-mail, zine or f2f circles, what do you think of these thoughts and more importantly how do you think webDiplomacy stacks up with the other Diplomacy venues?
Draugnar (0 DX)
23 Feb 11 UTC
My experience outside of here has been F2F and the Judges. The Judges are good in that joining higher level games require time/games to have been completed. I think the Judges would stand up to here at all the various levels. When I found Crazyter, we were both playing a beginner game on a judge, her for her reasona and me cause I hadn't played in a while so wanted a refresher game in placing orders on the judges. She is a top 100 player and I'm not a total slouch and yet we lost due to a takeover player deciding to throw it if we wouldn't give into his concessions. We lost it because we could have given in, but it was a tough "beginner" game. Now we have both gotten better in the last couple of years, but still...

F2F has always been friends and you can't compare a small sample of 8 or 9 friends with a site of thousands.
Right. I guess I should specify f2f -- I imagine unless you're particularly blessed that your f2f isn't going to be very impressive unless you're doing organized city-wide or bigger f2f contests (ava and gramilaj, I think, are two f2fers from the Chicago region, no?). It's that level I'm referencing.
damian (675 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
I play here an on Diplomatic Corp, and I'm playing a game right now with mostly newer players to the site, and I'm finding the quality of play comparable to my current high pot games, and to some degree my masters games. Except that quality of play is more consistent.
pi3th0n (801 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
I've only ever played here, and I love it!
It would be cool if there were more variants though.
woofers (100 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
I have to agree with you on playdiplomacy... I started off there and saw constant CDs across my games, though mine were low level I dont remember seeing a match without a CD
peterwiggin (15158 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
playdiplomacy: horrible. Most players never returned press.
stabberfou: I'm in one of the world cup games now. The site's really confusing, but the play is pretty average, maybe a bit above average.
dipbounced: where I learned to play, and the best interface for everything but live games. All games are anonymous and wta. The quality of play there could be quite high a few years ago if you could get into the right games. Now, it's rather bad (I might win a gunboat game soon, which is really saying something): most players send only the most perfunctory presses. However, there are still some good players hanging out there, but the feeling I get is that the site is slowly dying. Replacing CD players instead of letting them NMR does give it a bit of an advantage in level of play, however.
PBEM: players who stick with PBEM tend to be very good, I've discovered. The biggest difference is that, because of the longer deadlines (and probably the age group as well) they tend to write less frequent but much longer messages. I could never figure out how people wrote 2+ pages to everybody every turn. They also tend not to play anonymously.
webdip: where I play most of my games now . . . the quality of play ranges from very high to abysmally poor. CDs are a major problem, as are the PPSC games (sorry if I'm offending people . . .). Nevertheless, we're a growing
gman314 (100 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
@pi3th0n: For more variants go to vdiplomacy.com. It uses the same interface as here with a lot more variants. The only problem I find with it is that the smaller community means that there are some players who try to build alliances between games and that you'll often get a full spectrum of poor to amazing players in a single game. Also, the larger variants are harder to get started and experience the spectrum more fully.
spyman (424 D(G))
23 Feb 11 UTC
Given the size of playdiplomacy I would say there would have to be plenty of very good players there (in similar proportions to what we find here). One trouble, as I perceive it, with playdiplomacy, is their ranking system. It is based on wins, draws etc but does not take into consideration the skill level of the players. What this could mean is that it might be more difficult for the top players to recognize each other and creat the top-notch games we see here. That is my, admittedly possibly ignorant, impression. It might be that they have developed tournament systems like we see here. In which case that would help to overcome the problem I just described.
spyman (424 D(G))
23 Feb 11 UTC
I just checked out vdiplomacy.com. WOW so many variants! Impressive. Did it used to be called olidip? There also used to be a site called goondip (something like that)...

Does anyone know if there is a site that has the variant 1900? Supposedly it addresses some of the unevenness of the powers... which, I think is Diplomacy's main bugbear.
fiedler (1293 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
I played 1 game at stabberfou - a terrible experience! The game took several months real-time just to progress about five years. The players there were fairly chatty and some were obviously quite good. But the snails pace and terrible interface mean that was my first and last game there. Does anyone know a good machiavelli variant? That sounds cool.
Babak (26982 D(B))
23 Feb 11 UTC
of the online dip sites, this is the best group I've found... but I've only played worldleaders, FB, and a short stint on playdip... so no clue about dipbounced and stabenforou

of the PBEM sites/communities - most have died out... the ACD games are by far the best players I've come across, but its a small exclusive membership organization (50-80 active players) and they only run about 10-15 games a year. diplomaticcorps is probably the most organized PBEM community - and I'd say the play is at par or potentially better than here - but the drawbacks were too much for me. games take too long, the email interface makes things harder (for me) and no anonymity.

my dip-home is here now and will stay here... now if only we could get rid of that pesky PPSC variant....
Rancher (1652 D(S))
23 Feb 11 UTC
@spyman -- yes, vdiplomacy was olidip but the server crashed around new years

my only experience besides face to face diplomacy for 30 years is on here and Oli's variant site. The variant (vdiplomacy) site is very fun but there is less diploming and you do get many games where beginners and vets play together just to get a game going. The games on this site seem to be taken a little more seriously, and I think the level of play overall is very good here

plus we sniff out those dastardly metagamers and multiaccounters ...
peterwiggin (15158 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
oh I played on fb for a while a few years back too . . . lots of cluelessness! The only good player I came across was Julien.
Eliphas (100 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Conquest of nations has the 1900 variant. Generally, players here talk more then players at conquest of nations.
kreilly89 (100 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Facebook Diplomacy is my only other experience, and it was the worst experience I have ever had playing a board/strategy game.
Babak (26982 D(B))
23 Feb 11 UTC
pw - yeah Julien was/is a great player... we had a couple of amazing games with folks like Stephen, Fitzi, Avi, poet warrior and a few others... good folks some of them. I think I played 17 games on there with a 100% record (all solos or draws ;)

but I think most of the really good players either retired from dip or moved here... I know Julien plays here now (when he plays)
peterwiggin (15158 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Yeah I played a few games with Julien recently -- stabbed him viciously in the two where I ended up in the draw. Also, if you were on fb, then I guess there were two good players!
maltizok (787 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
i never played this game ftf and just started playing on this site in the past few months. the community here is great and i dont think i will ever try any other dip sites, once you find the best theres no reason to keep looking.


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Putin33 (111 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Irish election
Is Fine Gael as radical as Cameron's Tories? And what are we to make of the reported destruction of Fianna Fail?
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g01df1ng3r (2821 D)
22 Feb 11 UTC
How to win WTA games?
In a high-stake WTA games played by rational players (no throwing the game away), how do you go solo?
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Asher Powers (0 DX)
20 Feb 11 UTC
Origins
Who all here attends "Origins" the annual game convention in Ohio?
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guyfromva (100 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Builds?
How do I complete the "builds" phase?
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maltizok (787 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Dinner For Schmucks
inside
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that1guy13 (100 D)
22 Feb 11 UTC
Quick Question
In a world diplo. game can a fleet in Central America go to the Caribbean sea OR the Northeast Pacific?
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DragonTamerZ (100 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Tuesday Night game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=51349
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JetJaguar (820 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Terenos was Stupid
Noobs: Learn from their mistake.
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Chester (0 DX)
18 Feb 11 UTC
Meta gamers on this server
I need an admin to stop this meta gamers. They are the user of England an Russia.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=50339
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
12 Feb 11 UTC
Phrase I hate more than anything in diplomacy.
The phrase i hate more than anything else in diplomacy
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
22 Feb 11 UTC
500 D 1 Day Phase Classic Game
Need 2 more players
gameID=50777

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Rancher (1652 D(S))
22 Feb 11 UTC
I Have a Friend in Rome ...
named Biccus Diccus, and that's the name of the game -- if you've got some Ancient Med experience, join up

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=51245
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damian (675 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
EOG statements for: I think we should call it your grave
Well I know this game never really got a proper conclusion I'd be interested in see your thought process and what you figured was happening in the game.
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Bezborodov (775 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
Will the Gadhafi Regime Fall?
Discuss!
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☺ (1304 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
The Top 50 Sci-Fi Shows of all time
http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/114/1143800p5.html

Thoughts? My list is inside.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
Ruling question
question on a ruling
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DoctorJingles (212 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
New live game
New live game. Starts in 15 minutes, needs 4 to start! gameID=51210
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The Czech (39715 D(S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
Sucking Donkey Dicks is what happens to Noobs who post cheating accusations
Post here to sign up for sucking.
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spartans (0 DX)
21 Feb 11 UTC
advertise you'r games
has anybody realisized martin1561's 15 games he's set up?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
29 Jan 11 UTC
Webdip Face-to-Face Boston Sign-Up
The Deadline has been extended to March 1st!
Where: Boston, MA
When: June 11-12 (With a "fun" game on June 10th)
Cost: $25 (Contact [email protected] for payment info)
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
21 Feb 11 UTC
Akron/Family
Has anyone heard of this band?
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Geofram (130 D(B))
21 Feb 11 UTC
Auto-Refresher for Chrome Users
Live Game enthusiasts, are you tired of spamming f5? Well using this simple bookmark, you can force a single tab to refresh automatically! No installation required.
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aoe3rules (949 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
A sequel to the Cheese War?
TGCW was drawn; good game, everyone. Anyone interested in a rematch?


75 D bet, anonymous, slow gunboat.
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TBroadley (178 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
Notice page?
I remember someone posted a while ago a link to a webDiplomacy page, but I can't find the post. This page had a list of all the private messages and deadline processing on it, but it wasn't the homepage. Does anyone have a link to it?
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joey1 (198 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
Anyone else having trouble with orders not saving
Twice I have change orders, and I am sure that I saved them and then they are not being applied. Anyone else having that issue?
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Leif_Syverson (271 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
Understanding why my orders failed...
In ftf games I've played, when this situation comes up these orders wouldn't fail.. Why did my (brazil's) orders fail here?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=50129&viewArchive=Orders#index3
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hellalt (70 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
GFDT Sucks
The rules encourage players to let someone solo so that they can get a strong second position.
HOW MOTHERFUCKING STUPID IS THAT?
My first and last time I participate in this embarrassment of a tournament.
Shame on whoever designed this shit.
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