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Churchill (2280 D)
15 Apr 08 UTC
An apology to Xyanth
I'm sorry about being CD in our prosperous game against Italy and Turkey... I was travelling and it took me a while to get the internet up. I am sad to lose such a strong position against a weak enemy and one on holiday! Good luck... and beware France!
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fraushai (1781 D)
14 Apr 08 UTC
Freedom of Speech
I see the deletion as an infringement of our freedom of speech. As of the time I left my polls thread, the discussion was rational and I see no reason to terminate it. If people are reluctant to accept the unpopularity of the US government, they could just choose not to open the thread.

Kestas, if you want to keep politics out of pHpDiplomacy, that's fine, but please be consistent in your actions and do the same to threads like " Vote for McCain or we're all doomed." Otherwise, you are in effect discriminating against those who are politically incorrect, i.e., the vast majority of us who dislike America for a reason.

I suggest that all responses containing abusive language be deleted, while the rest of the thread be restored. Or course, Kestas, you have the convenient option of deleting my account and continue with your political persecution, though by doing so you are murdering the voice of conscience on pHpDiplomacy.
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gauauu (100 D)
14 Apr 08 UTC
civil disorder
I have a question about how a player in civil disorder is handled. Are all their moves set to hold? (so if I'm attacking someone in civil disorder, I need to move with at least one support to take the territory?) And can I successfully support hold a unit that belongs to a country in civil disorder?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Apr 08 UTC
No longer CD notification
This has happened to me a couple times and I was wondering if its been a problem for any one else.
A country is CD and I make my moves with that in mind only to find out that between me finalizing and the stat of the next turn, someone has joined the game. I think its great that people can join late, but could there be some form of notification, because this has messed up my moves on several occasions.
BTW, Kestas, you've done a great job-thanks!
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canute (0 DX)
14 Apr 08 UTC
Asterix and Obelix- Who is your favorite...
Character? Mine is Dogmatix:-) reminds me of my dog, canute.:-)
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eightpercent (100 D)
12 Apr 08 UTC
Ge Gentle
Just joined diplomacy. Big fan of pbm games and i was wondering if there are any tips that any one out there can give me? Thanks.
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Treefarn (6094 D)
12 Apr 08 UTC
What would happen if you could choose your armies/fleet at game start?
Would your strategies change? I'm thinking this would be an interesting variant (and probably has already been tried). What changes would you make? The game would be completely different for some countries.

2 Italian Fleets? Turkish fleet in Smyrna? 3 Austrian Armies? Fleet at St Pete North Coast? German fleet in Berlin for support into Sweden first year?

Russia and Turkey could talk before hand and both agree on Armies on the Black Sea.
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el_maestro (14722 D(B))
13 Apr 08 UTC
Bug in map or incorrect move did succeed
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Generic Title Autumn 1903, Unit-placing
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3506&msgCountry=Italy
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Is it possible to move a fleet from Apu to tunis ? That's what Italy did in the previous turn when you see the map.
Bug in map or incorrect/correct move ?
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canute (0 DX)
11 Apr 08 UTC
Great site!
relatively new to this site, i am glad to see people on here, with intellect, passion, thoughts, ideas, and opinions. Yes... There are the ignorant too, however all in all, this is a fantastic site. A great game to play, and even a forum for chat amongst its participants. Who needs facebook?! Well done KESTAS!
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kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
13 Apr 08 UTC
Deleted 3 new topics on the US
Why not find something else to talk about? Are these anti-american threads supposed to make me hate America, or hate loud-mouthed, obsessive anti-americans?
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warrenthegreat (147 D)
11 Apr 08 UTC
Vote for McCain or we're all doomed.
The Christian bible says the anti christ will promise peace but deliver war. McCain however is promising war which means he can't be the anti christ. A vote for McCain is a vote for 8 more years without an armageddon. What has Clinton or Obama got to offer.
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Twenty (160 D)
13 Apr 08 UTC
Idea for next update
Just had a thought today while entering some orders. I thought it would be beneficial to have 2 maps when entering orders. 1 with what happened last move with all the arrows. Another one under it (read: some where) with what your next move will look like.

Simply because once you start having a couple of units i start to loose track of visualizing all my moves. Does anyone have any thoughts about this?
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pitirre (0 DX)
13 Apr 08 UTC
Rush; the greatest american band of all time
wow, i saw them last friday in concert as part of their "snakes and arrows" tour and they were fantastic! my favorite song of the nigh was "mission". just beautiful.

try to watch it in youtube by writing "rush puerto rico".

if they come to your town, go see them! great!
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BrianW (195 D)
13 Apr 08 UTC
Points
According to the help files:

"The amount of points you get depends on how many units you have at the end. If you have the 18 units needed to win you'll get most of the points, but if you have more units than you started with at the end you'll still win something. If you get defeated, or have to leave the game, then all the points you bet are lost."

However, what happens if you survive a game, but you have less units than when you started out? For example if I was Russia, but I get only 3 units when the game is over, how many points to I get?
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Hendrix (160 D)
12 Apr 08 UTC
Can the maker of this site contact me.
Hey all, I sent a message to kestas_j_k through sourceforge and there is no contact information available. I'd like to work on this diplomacy system instead of starting from scratch.l
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Brutorix (100 D)
13 Apr 08 UTC
Heated off-topic debates
I know that at this point many people are getting annoyed and offended with the heavily political discussions taking place on this message board. It is rarely avoidable when you make political comments that you don't find people who disagree with you and when it comes to more serious international conflicts the internet is a place where people from very different up-bringing often clash.

The most important point I must make is that people choose to argue over these points for their own enjoyment - It is of course your choice whether or not to take part in the discussions. It is also an individual persons choice whether or not they take points brought up in a debate personally. The educational value of each debate is of course different depending on the individual but I know that many of the issues brought up have been able to at least open the minds of those involved to a degree.

The greatest thing about the debates is that they are time spent on the site, taking time to make political posts on the forum may give you the chance to hop back and forth from a game and develop a deeper level of actual ingame diplomacy when other players are online at the same time.

Anyways, I personally think that the debates should definitely continue to occur. The more personal attacks should be moderated and the people involved should try not to take political conflicts personally.
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avinoam (174 D)
12 Apr 08 UTC
Keep Politics out of Diplomacy
It might be a good idea to refrain from heated topics such as real life politics (as opposed to in game politics) and religion.
This is supposed to be fun.
Enough tears are spilt over being back-stabbed in the game. :)
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Medi (280 D)
12 Apr 08 UTC
Opening with Austria - an article
I've heard a lot of people complaining about getting Austria, so I figured I'd write a little bit about how to open with the Dual Monarchy. As a 25% Hungarian, I am uniquely qualified here!
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DNA117 (1535 D)
13 Apr 08 UTC
Correct me if I am wrong.
Does attacking a fleet that is convoying disrupt the convoy? If it does then there is an error in this game in the North sea.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3506
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Chairman Mao (340 D)
13 Apr 08 UTC
Press Game II x WTA game
I will be planning to start a 102 pot WTA Press Game
Please post here if you are interested and I will email you the password.
If your emails are hidden, be sure that when I get the final list, give me a mail in prior so that I can give you a reply.

Following Reuters, this will be called Agence France-Presse
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pitirre (0 DX)
12 Apr 08 UTC
new game just started; deception
want a new game, play at "deception"
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el_maestro (14722 D(B))
11 Apr 08 UTC
Fed up playing with Italy
I keep having italy since 3 games, I like to change.
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keeper0018 (100 D)
12 Apr 08 UTC
kestas, error
kestas-

in game "Yum yums-2", (http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3271), i just took over turkey, and the game is in the unit-placing phase. however, i dont have any builds/disbands, and the game is stuck there. please help!
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ComradeWilkinski (100 D)
13 Apr 08 UTC
New Game - Cheap One
Low stakes game.
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avinoam (174 D)
12 Apr 08 UTC
Join my game: Chrispy Chicken - no silent players please
Please join my game if you:
a) actually talk to people during the game
b) don't abandon games
c) preferably if you check the site 3-4 times a day. :)

* snacks not included
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shinobi (180 D)
12 Apr 08 UTC
game stuck in retreats mode
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3446

I have no retreats, but I'm the only player 'yet to move'.
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El_Perro_Artero (707 D)
11 Apr 08 UTC
New Game- Stereotype the person above you!
Stereotype the person who posts above you. Don't forget to be as cruel as possible! Also, please don't argue the stereotype someone assigns to you.
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
07 Apr 08 UTC
A Variant- Hidden team game.
Here is an interesting variant I came across not too long ago, involving a team of two, and five individual players:
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
07 Apr 08 UTC
There are seven players, two of whom are in a team. Only they know who the team members are. Victory is achieved when any player reaches 18 Centres, as normal, or the team reaches 24. The team as a pair of course win if one of them reaches 18 Centres.

For this to work there has to be some sort of gamemaster to choose the team. I am willing to do this. If you want to play this variant, say so in this thread, and un-hide your email address. I shall send you an email with the game link, and in that tell you if you are one of the team. I shall select the team with a random number generator.
thewonderllama (100 D)
07 Apr 08 UTC
Another tempting variant! If you can get a quorum together, I'm most definitely interested.
Chrispminis (916 D)
07 Apr 08 UTC
I'm in! This is made all the better with global chat.
I'm game!
flashman (2274 D(G))
08 Apr 08 UTC
Yep, me too - sounds very interesting - especially trying to uncover the team.
McCain (100 D)
08 Apr 08 UTC
I'm in, as soon as I can cash in some points from another game.
cgwhite32 (1465 D)
08 Apr 08 UTC
Ditto - up for this as the other variants.
flashman (2274 D(G))
08 Apr 08 UTC
I asume low points, PPSC?

I don't mind but I think it best to test variants before jumping in with a fortune...

chowmein555 (196 D)
08 Apr 08 UTC
Yep I'm in for this sounds very good. So is the other 5 playing for themselves or is the aim to undercover the team.
Wombat (722 D)
08 Apr 08 UTC
I'm in too... sounds very tempting this...

Can the team ally with more players?
flashman (2274 D(G))
08 Apr 08 UTC
Good question, but who said you could join more games?
thewonderllama (100 D)
08 Apr 08 UTC
I would assume that the team would actively try to hide their team-ness by allying with players. I would assume the goal would be to win, taking into account the knowledge that if any two players were to get 24 SCs between them you could lose.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
08 Apr 08 UTC
It is indeed a totally normal game, except two players can win by either of them getting 18 Centres or between them getting 24 Centres. They however run the risk of being found out, and therefore getting five players all working against them.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
08 Apr 08 UTC
I have five people who have joined with E-mails:

Chrispminis
El_Pero_Artero
flashman
cgwhite32
Wombat, although having a keen in Mathematics I take offence to the email.

Thus the first four are all in.

Thewonderllama
Chowmein555
McCain

you need to un-hide your email addresses

That gives us seven in total after either discriminating against Wombat or wonderllama has failed to confirm his offer.

One of you will have to launch the game, that'll be Chrispminis, since I have you added on MSN, and so you can do it when I am online and I can get the emails out at once.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
08 Apr 08 UTC
"wonderllama has failed to confirm his offer." request to play, rather
thewonderllama (100 D)
08 Apr 08 UTC
Ah, didn't realize I hadn't. I'm most definitely in.
thewonderllama (100 D)
08 Apr 08 UTC
and just emailed you my address.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
08 Apr 08 UTC
Last place on offer now
Topic back to top! anyone going to join?
McCain (100 D)
09 Apr 08 UTC
if you still need a player my email is unblocked.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
09 Apr 08 UTC

Chrispminis
El_Pero_Artero
flashman
cgwhite32
Wombat
Thewonderllama
McCain

This is the list of players. I shall get Chris to set a game up at a time when we are both online, which should be within a day or two I guess.
flashman (2274 D(G))
09 Apr 08 UTC
Are you sure Wombat and I should be in the same game?
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
09 Apr 08 UTC
Well, it is rather for the players to decide, since it wouldn't affect you. Unless you give lessons with subliminal messages to attack certain people I would guess it would be fine.

Just that you ask the question would be enough to assure me that nothing would happen that was unjust.
thewonderllama (100 D)
09 Apr 08 UTC
I, and I imagine most players around here, trust you guys to play fairly.
cgwhite32 (1465 D)
09 Apr 08 UTC
Agreed. Have played you both in the same game before. I don't trust you Flashman, but I do trust you in that sense!
flashman (2274 D(G))
09 Apr 08 UTC
Thanks...

@TheGhostmaker... in case you did not realise, Wombat is my son, not my student.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
09 Apr 08 UTC
Ah, right. A new means of discipline eh? Go to bed or I'll destroy you in the Variant game!
Chrispminis (916 D)
09 Apr 08 UTC
Whoa. I had no idea I was being called upon to start the game. Sorry everyone. I'll send everyone the info, and when TheGhostmaker gives me the ok, I'll start the game, and post an announcement here.
Chrispminis (916 D)
09 Apr 08 UTC
Ok, well I got through to everyone, except for McCain. The e-mail didn't go through for some reason. If you're in another game with any of the players listed, could you ask them for the info?
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
09 Apr 08 UTC
I'll be online again tomorrow evening. If you could start the game sometime then and send the link out, I shall email the two members of the team in the same evening.
Chrispminis (916 D)
09 Apr 08 UTC
Aye aye captain.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
10 Apr 08 UTC
Ok, leave it until 4 pm-9 pm GMT tomorrow, since I shall be offline again now.

And send the joining link, because the passwords are bugged.
Chrispminis (916 D)
11 Apr 08 UTC
Ok the game has been created. Everyone join!

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3512&join=on&password=9443b0fceb8c03b6a514a706ea69df0b
cgwhite32 (1465 D)
11 Apr 08 UTC
Just joined. Out of interest, how will the team be decided?
flashman (2274 D(G))
12 Apr 08 UTC
I am in the game but I did not actually try to sign in! I am wondering how that happened? Unless Wombat did it for me. I will have to check my credit cards now...

Anyway, glad to be in and looking forward to the detective work... Unless I am in that team.

btw, Wombat is short of points but should have enough before the game deadline passes - he has 101 locked into a WTA game that will probably fail to start.
flashman (2274 D(G))
12 Apr 08 UTC
Wombat is in...

Just one left...
Treefarn (6094 D)
12 Apr 08 UTC
Why 7 players? Why not 6 players and assign one person two countries?
flashman (2274 D(G))
12 Apr 08 UTC
That player would need two accounts...

Heresy!
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
12 Apr 08 UTC
I have emailed the team
flashman (2274 D(G))
12 Apr 08 UTC
Still down one...

What happens if the missing man is part of the team?

Chrispminis (916 D)
12 Apr 08 UTC
Then we play a normal game? Haha.
flashman (2274 D(G))
12 Apr 08 UTC
Or does the other team member have to get 24 SCs... ;)


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anlari (8640 D)
11 Apr 08 UTC
Allied Warfare Result
The game Allied Warfare (3011) has ended with the victory of Turkey-England-Russia. Austria-Italy were destroyed and France-Germany have capitulated.

We now request that the game is drawn. Please post your confirmations.
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sean (3490 D(B))
10 Apr 08 UTC
Playing Diplomacy without any diplomacy
Often in games, especially lower pot games i keep coming across players who don't engage in any diplomacy at all. how do they expect to win?
Nearly always they are attacked and destroyed or severely crippled and hover around at the edges. They don't send in early messages of goodwill and misdirection, they don't reply and even if there exits a situation where we could work together they don't initiate any conversation. It's like they are playing a no press game on their own. I understand that some players when they plan to attack somebody they don't send any messages but the initial negotiations in the first 24 hours are crucial. If you are Germany and england says "hello' and "lets work together" and France doesn't even reply to your first message ...well isn't that France basically just putting his hand up and saying "hey guys why don't you unite and attack me" ?
why would people play this way ?
1. playing too many games at once ?
2.lack of awareness that the diplomacy function is crucial to winning (ie playing it like you might play chess) ?
are there any other reasons?
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