Um, the politically correct term is homosexual ... "The game won't start. How homosexual is that!?" See? Better! Or wait...

Pandora your a retard and a jackass.

Still though, I feel your pain, I'm having a similar problem. Go Admin yaaaa!!

damn homosexual games

Its ok, there was a girls only game (did it start kyndall?) so if Pandora and his different lifestyle choice friends want to start a private homosexual only game then i have no problem with that, good fighting chaps.

bajeezus, you fail to grasp the concept. Scolding someone for using 'gay' as a derogatory term, and then calling that person 'retard' is totally hypocritical. Using 'retard' as an insult is just as 0% appropriate as using 'gay'.

Also, sean, homosexuality is not a lifestyle choice, just as being male is not a choice. Just to clarify.

I guess I'm offending jackasses too then? I don't think anyone here would define themselves as "retarded," so I fail to consider that anyone reading said post would find my statement degrading. If it so happens that an individual read my previous post and found it to be a personal affront then I apologize in the utmost, however I do find the scenario an unlikely one. Absolutely, I stand to be corrected. But a homosexual individual calling himself as such should not be seen as derogatory.

If you want something done, ASK NICELY. Diplomacy is definitely not gay, Kestas is not gay, your bug is not literally gay, I'm not sure about you, Pandora, but my guess is that you're not gay.

There was no reason to use such a word. And yes, I am not gay either, thank you very much.

I'm morose....

you assume that I'm a guy?

Definition of GAY:
Happy, lively
So don't automatically link it up with lesbians.

I am still trying to decdode that last entry...

We need to work on vocabulary next time I see you.

Definition of GAY:
1. Happy, lively
2. Homosexual

Which do you think he intended in the title??

P.S. He's still retarded, but we're all guilty of being retarded sometimes.

I bet Pandora just titled this thread 'gay' so to read and laugh at some the outrage its causing. Look at yourselves. lol.

Bet you're right. We're the retards for backing up the gay community. We've been had!

Just because he expects the outrage doesn't mean the outrage shouldn't come into play, just my thoughts

Quite literally Pandora's box in more ways than one then ;)

I do this alot. it's fun to watch people fight over nothing. like serbia, or the kurds. and you all still assume I have a dick

traditionally Pandore is a female's name... so who's the retard? someone does not know they're history (mythology)

Traditionally, gays are hated and executed. But I'm just talking now, lol. Both parties in this thread are terribly in the wrong. Probably me too for stooping to this argument.

I think it's slightly humorous that the word "gay" being used on a ridiculous amount of other forums would be the most light-hearted insult.

depends what you mean by traditionally. In most ancient civilizations, such as greece, rome, egypt, phoneica, and indian civiliazations gays were not hated or executed, but tolerated, commonplace, and in some cases encouraged. but if you mean christian society than yes. Christians are always so narrow minded. I think its worth noted that at a time when jews and muslims were killed by the thousands by christians, the muslim states had amazing religious tolerence. and they were the ones who preserved the greek and roman knowledge, while the christians destroyed it, and murdered great thinkers (hypatia comes to mind). and no I am not a lesbian, though some girls are extremly sexy

People say Alexander the Great was gay, and that even Jesus was.

Spartans were pretty keen on the old boy on boy action too. are we now turning this thread into a best gay diplomacy player in history? i think Alexander the Great has got to win that one.
any other contenders?

FLAME WAR FLAME WAR FLAME WAR FLAME WAR FLAME WAR FLAME WAR FLAME WAR FLAME WAR FLAME WAR FLAME WAR

Thucydides, when you say 'traditionally, gays are hated and executed,' what do you mean? When you say 'traditionally' it sounds widespread, and using 'are' makes it present tense. So, you're saying that, presently, it is customary to execute gay folks? Is this, like, a family tradition of yours? On Christmas Eve you open one present and shoot one gay person? Then dig into some delicious ham, perhaps play a rousing match of Pictionary with your loved ones?

OK, also, when was Jesus gay?

In the Bible, Jesus supposedly "introduced the old ways (or something like that)" to some boy, and some people think that this was when.......well, you get the point.

I just heard this somewhere, and I don't actually believe it.

I've also heard that jesus was a vampire. although I can imagine him with a big one up his ass, he kinda just bent over and took it at the end..

I agree with Tucobenedicto. Its time to let this thread die the death it deserves.

This is getting pretty funny :P

In most societies though, even in the ancient civilizations mentioned above homosexuality was not usually 'encouraged'. In most post-modern 'tolerant' societies homosexuality is still viewed as awkward and strange by the majority of people - and this is why it is still used often as an insult.

You also have to remember that there is very little substatiated proof of the sexuality of many great leaders. People are often accused of homosexuality by political opponents during and after their life as part of what is effectively a 'smear' campaign. For example, in Suetonius' Twelve Caesers it mentions that Julius Caeser was rumored to be a homosexual.

I'm gonna weigh in on this one with a big "who the fuck cares"? Who's with me?

I love when people post about how stupid something is, or how the topic should "die." I encourage people to notice that this is...a forum. Don't want to keep reading this topic, then don't click "Open Thread" at the bottom and move on. Stop trying to remark how you don't care what's said, just stop discussing. If not, I would presume you do in fact care. It's the only logical assumption that can be made given the present situation.

Pandora, your last post was incredibly.. not thought out very well. Here wego: So.. Every single individual that *ever* claimed to hold anything in regards to a 'Christian' faith is always, period, can't-be-any-other-way-but-narrowminded? That's just about the most hypocritical thing I've read at least all day, presuming that it came from a person that figures they're open-minded to begin with.

First off, there are always going to be variants in the faith - different branches, different individuals, different ideas, notions, qualms, et cetera. *Always.* Nor can you simply look at someone based upon their skin color and lump 'them all' into one category, nor could you do so over political ideas (but I'd bet you would), or morality ideas. I don't give a rip if you're the type that always only trashes White Protestants (WASPS), which I'm guessing would be true based upon that post; at least bother understanding your bloody history.

Which leads me to my second point. Keep in mind that the folks you're talking about are Catholics in the Middle Ages. And at that point in time, Catholics were also killing loads of Catholics - not because they were staunch supporters of the faith, mind you, but because the Church at that point was little more than a ploy for a few elites in Western Civilization (namely the Pope, his favorite Bishops, and a random bout of nobles and what have you) to gain as much land/wealth that they possibly could.

And most of the Greek/Roman knowledge that Europe lost was thanks to the Germanic Invasions at the fall of the Roman Empire. Catholic monasteries hoarded and copied the books they did find (especially the Irish ones), and while they would certainly be more likely to burn 'heretical' books if they found them, there were also a fair number that got through anyways. Those Greek/Roman writers were by and large used as the scientific knowledge of the day until the Scientific Revolution began to set in.. Get your history straight before you make blanketed, ignorant comments without any attempt to figure out what was really going on; if you're hearing what is obviously only one side of a story, search out the opposing culture and get to the bottom of what was really going on and not just the spin we're all fed, regardless of where that spin comes from.

get over this topic. I see what you do pandora. Very good.:-)

I try

teheet stupid boys :)