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16 Apr 14 UTC

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Team game

Is it possible to create a WTA full press game,where each country had two players play it? Press could come from either player, and would be received by both players...

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16 Apr 14 UTC

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Astrology

Sharing some videos to carry you through this Intense month !!!

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2 team game

Would any of you guys be interested in joining a game that starts out with just 2 sides? One side would consist of England, France, Germany, and Italy and the other would consist of Turkey, Russia, and Austria. The game would be drawn once one side is eliminated.

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15 Apr 14 UTC

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GM Is Innocent

As above, so below:

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

Though the hubbub has mostly died down, and though a few people are still dead, GM is fully *innocent* of any deaths associated with ignition switch problems. Prior to any actual, real world events taking place, GM conducted a great deal of design research into these switches. The made schematics, they ran tests in labs, even conducted computer simulations…and the switch worked great. If there was an “ignition switch denier” in the company, he was rightfully silenced…after all, the simulations were accurate, the switch was fine. It is irrelevant that “real world data” is contrary to the computer simulations of the ignition switch.

GM is INNOCENT.

2ndWhiteLine (2601 )
15 Apr 14 UTC
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I didn't know General Mills made ignition switches. I thought they just made cereal?

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

Ironically, GM does NOT make ignition switches, just to keep things straight...

captainmeme (1723 )
15 Apr 14 UTC
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I didn't even know the GameMaster has a role... Does this mean we shouldn't lynch PE?

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

Often big companies take the fall for faults their supplier did because they want to keep their relationship going. Toyota did this a few years back.

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

Meme, you mafia slime, you're dead. Shut up now.

But I'm pleased to see the first two monkey's can't reject my thesis, and therefore mock it.

Jamiet99uk (808 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

What is this about and why should it be of interest to the forum? Not everyone reads the motoring press, Krellin - context please?

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

goldie - they take the fault because the GM Engineer's created the spec thesupplier used to build the part and signed off on the switch for including in the vehicle. they bought it and sold it, so they own the design. Very few parts on vehicles are manufactured by the OEM -- the OEM is a vehicle *integrator* - they integrate the parts from suppliers into a vehicle. that is what a manufacturing assembly plant does -- but GM./Ford/Chrysler/Toyota/Hyundia/etc don't make parts.

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

Jamie...INDULGE the krellin.

Should GM be liable or not? The had computer simulation data that says the part is good. GD&T data passed muster. Stress analysis in some sort of 3

programming says the part works. Why shouldn't they be 100% exonerated by the computer simulation?

Work with me here, Jamie...answer the question.

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

And jamie...seriously, why should ANY of the shit on the threads be of interests to webdip players. Get real, crabbycakes.

Jamiet99uk (808 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

Krellin, I can't answer your question because I don't know what this is about - that's what I'm trying to say - I don't know anything about the original story. I don't read the US motor industry trade press and whatever story is at the root of this hasn't been reported in UK media. What is the issue exactly?

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

Oh...GM CEO was pulled in front of Congress because they have bad ignition switches (going back to like 2006 or something) that cause total vehicle shut-down when they fail, and have led to multiple deaths. MASSIVE recall...will end up costing GM $1 billion +

I'm just saying...they have computer data that said the switches were good. Why should real life data matter? Really, this idea applies to any company with legal action against them. Why isn't computer model data good enough to exonerate the corporation?

krellin (80 )
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sorry for calling you crabbycakes! :)

steephie22 (182 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

If the computer says nothing can go wrong and something goes wrong, it's possible that the computer is simply wrong, and if the computer is wrong, the company should be held responsible I'd say.

My point: I don't know the details of this story, but just because a computer says something doesn't mean the company is not to blame, so don't say it's all good because the computer said something...

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

Steephie...no....can't be so. The computer has to be right, because it was programmed by smart people after years of work. They sometimes even "tweak" the programming based upon experience to make sure the data is right.

How an you say a computer simulation can be wrong??

2ndWhiteLine (2601 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

krellin is a computer

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

2WL is an ignition switch denier.

A Consensus of Engineering Experts said the switch is OK. I don't think the real life experiences of a few ignition switch deniers should have any say in whether or not these switches are 100% OK as is.

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

Show of hands -- who among you want to go against the Engineering Consensus of Experts, backed by their computer simulations, and show yourself to be an Ignition Switch Denier?

Yellowjacket (835 )
15 Apr 14 UTC
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rofl am I the only one who sees what old krelly is doing right here?

Is it possible that I'm rolling my eyes and chuckling at the same time?

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

I loves you, YJ. It's brilliant, you have to confess.

Draugnar (0 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

Like, duh, next up is Climate Change deniers... We all see where he is headed.

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

Draug - you do, YJ does...not everyone. I'm still waiting for the definitive statement on the value of man-made computer models versus real life data...but nobody wants to stick their neck out that far...

krellin (80 )
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Just because it's an obvious analogy doesn't mean it isn't valid.

Yellowjacket (835 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

Nope, it's invalid for entirely different reasons :)

krellin (80 )
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Nope.

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC
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• Actually, the GM argument is probably a hell of a lot more valid than global warming arguments, since *most* of the time, computer simulations in the engineering community produce a product that actually *does* behave as predicted. That can not…ever…be said for the fraudulent global warming models…
:P

krellin (80 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

I say this as an engineer that spent three year sitting in front of the "autocar" - our vehicle simulator - before I took my software out on the road in actual vehicle to verify my lab results...

Jamiet99uk (808 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

You're probably waiting in great excitement for the chance to accuse someone of lacking "intellectual integrity", aren't you, Krellin? Y'know, despite more or less having previously admitted that you have none yourself?

Jamiet99uk (808 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

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Yellowjacket (835 )
15 Apr 14 UTC
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I think webdip is a pretty cool guy. He lacks intellectual integrity and doesn't afraid of anything.

Jamiet99uk (808 )
15 Apr 14 UTC
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And, come on, but: "I say this as an engineer..."

Everyone knows you are a goat breeder. This has been documented on the forum previously. Don't claim otherwise or you'll expose your lack of integrity.

Draugnar (0 )
15 Apr 14 UTC

I'm a former Marine. Doesn't mean I'm still one. I'm a former professional musician. Doesn't mean I still play for a living. Krellin could be a former gigolo for all we know. That doesn't make him intellectually dishonest, just vocationally diverse.

bo_sox48 (5202 )
16 Apr 14 UTC
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Don't use krellin and diverse in the same sentence please.

Gobbledydook (1389 )
16 Apr 14 UTC
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bo you just did.

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15 Apr 14 UTC

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The King is Dead at vDip

Hey guys, just want to advertise that I'm going to be making another game (or more) of King is Dead games. Check out the thread on the vDip forum to sign up and give input.

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14 Apr 14 UTC
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Why libertarian is so dangerous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNFJK1ZpVg

A worst case scenario.

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15 Apr 14 UTC

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Guys! there are interested in the five-minute?

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15 Apr 14 UTC

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LIVE GAME!!!

5 min turn regular 10 pot
Starts in an hour, JOIN JOIN JOIN!!!
gameID=139864

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15 Apr 14 UTC

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Be There or Be Square

gameID=139842
1 day, low pot Modern Europe Map
JOIN!!! :D

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15 Apr 14 UTC

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go Quick play-5

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=139859

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14 Apr 14 UTC

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this stupid kid......she took it way too far!

http://myfox8.com/2014/04/13/teen-has-apparent-meltdown-after-tweeting-terror-threat-to-american-airlines/

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15 Apr 14 UTC

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People stop ukrainian tanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDcQTBYY4kE

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goldfinger0303 (3157

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15 Apr 14 UTC

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Taking Bets Now

Will Russia take more of Ukraine?
Will Ukraine fight back this time?
How far will the Russian economy fall because of this?
And finally, how much shit is Putin33 gonna eat when this happens?

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15 Apr 14 UTC
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What the hell are they thinking at Great American Ballpark?

It is pouring cats and dogs and the in field is a fucking swimming pool yet they are still playing!

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stupidfighter (253

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14 Apr 14 UTC

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Should this country be in CD?

Not finding the written out rules in the FAQ or Rulebook section of the site. My impression was missing two phases opened the country for a replacement. Germany in gameID=137674 has missed a diplomacy and retreat phase but is still in the game. Does it have to be 2 diplomacy phases?

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12 Apr 14 UTC

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High Stake GB Game

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=139716

join

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10 Apr 14 UTC
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Ghost Rating Update

I am waiting for it.

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g01df1ng3r (2821

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14 Apr 14 UTC

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Why No Press is Best

Seems like most games are no-message games. But isn't the core of Diplomacy the diplomacy between people and that the moves are just the outcome of that?

I'm not saying No Press is *Not* Best. Just trying to understand why it seems to have more appeal these days.

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SplitDiplomat (101466

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09 Apr 14 UTC

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2014 end of the world EOG

Or - what could have happened if it had been continued? Is the ending premature?
This is a raw model gb playing that could use all the students from SoW for studying,Imo.
Any comment or a question is wellcome.
(someone provide game ID,please)...

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08 Apr 14 UTC

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The server has been down for a few hours due to an attack

Seriously, these Chinese are getting out of hand. What did webdip ever do to antagonise anti-western powers?

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14 Apr 14 UTC

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Future see through computer touch screens

Does anyone see the benefit of this technology? Specifically how do these see-through touch screen monitors improve anything that is in existence today? I as in regards to why the entertainment industry seems to have a fetish with displaying computers with this special effect?

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14 Apr 14 UTC

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Online payment systems for people under 18 (or other ages in some countries perhaps)

I want to receive money from someone who wants to send it via PayPal, but PayPal is 18+ in my country while I'm 16 years old. I'm already working on online banking, but apparently sending the money to a bank account is a problem, so I need some other account to receive the money on. My parents could receive the money and send it to me I suppose, but since I plan on making this general practice, I'd rather not do that.
Idea's?

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14 Apr 14 UTC

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Need one or two more for friendly game

We have a good group starting an anonymous game, but need one or possibly two more. PM me if you'd like to join:

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=139762.

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13 Apr 14 UTC

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Syria Chem Weapon - Part 2

Uhh....yeah....remember when Obama drew that line in the sand...rattled his sabre...and then like a punk-ass bitch tucked tail and ran when Putin bitch-slapped him and told his to fuck off and leave Russia's ally alone, and Obama said, "Problem solved...Russia'll take care of dem chemical weapons...
http://news.yahoo.com/syria-rebels-government-report-poison-gas-attack-143934868.html

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President Eden (2750

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13 Apr 14 UTC

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Attention: Replacement needed! (urgent!)

Hey y'all, a player in two of my invitational pseudo-gunboat games has to drop due to serious IRL issues. The player fortunately has not NMRed and both games were paused in time, so the game has not been affected by this emergency. However, I'm in need of replacements. Please post here to state your interest in either game and I will PM you with specifics. Thanks!

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sacredgnome (244

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13 Apr 14 UTC

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QUICK Modern Diplomacy starts soon!

If anyone is bored and wants to do a quick run through a Modern Diplomacy map, here's the link:

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=139768

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Crazy Anglican (1067

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11 Apr 14 UTC

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Ireland

Mrs. Anglican and her mom will be going there this summer.

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Spaceman98 (135

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12 Apr 14 UTC

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Is it possible to join a game by replacing a banned user?

I would like to join a game that is in progress, where one participating user has been banned (I would like to replace the banned user). Is this possible? If so, what should I do?

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13 Apr 14 UTC

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account deactivation

Greetings fellow diplomats. I would like to know if it is possible to deactivate my account. I won't be able to log in for a long time as I won't have internet access, and I don't want to harm the players that are already in the game with me.

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10 Apr 14 UTC
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Waco, TX..Ruby Ridge..Nevada???

What is it with Democrats bringing out armed Fed's to execute sieges against American's?
http://www.infowars.com/cliven-bundy-calls-on-sheriff-to-start-arresting-blm-feds/
http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/04/10/expect-to-see-a-band-of-soldiers-militia-members-arrive-at-nevada-ranch/

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