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Thucydides (864 D(B))
09 Apr 14 UTC
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Does anyone else love that this site has not changed its look in like eight years?
Because I actually seriously love that about it. Nothing else in my life on the internet still looks like it did then, and it looks fine.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Apr 14 UTC
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On The Forum
Hello all,
The mods are going back to handling game-related issues on the Forum, such as cheating accusations and talking about ongoing games. If you break these rules, the mods will give you a warning and may lock your thread or dock points at their discretion. If your thread is locked, it will be be accompanied by a message indicating why and how to appeal the decision. As always, if you have any concerns, feel free to start a thread in the Forum (or use this one) or contact me directly.
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krellin (80 DX)
11 Apr 14 UTC
Home Grown Vag...
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/04/10/in-medical-first-scientists-implant-lab-grown-vaginas-in-human-patients

No, they can't implant one in your right hand.
But it is pretty amazing none the less... (And I hate you all for making me be the one to share this link. Come on...get on the ball people)
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SLK (512 D)
11 Apr 14 UTC
Surrender option
I am thinking that having a surrender option (to your attacker, or one of your allies that you border) might add a very nice twist to the game. Often we see people give up, but giving them a chance to surrender their territories would take diplomacy to another level, where you could negotiate with someone, give him your armies, and watch your enemy deal with a much bigger force. Thoughts?
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dirge (768 D(B))
10 Apr 14 UTC
Rules question
Okay, I still don't get this--see below . . .
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Slyguy270 (527 D)
09 Apr 14 UTC
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In search of a Holy spirit
A response to a similarly named thread...
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
10 Apr 14 UTC
Compensation for physical damage
Personal question inside.
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greibek (0 DX)
10 Apr 14 UTC
!!!
Live Anon Full Press WTA-2
all join!
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Apr 14 UTC
The Favorite Author Tournament, Round 1, Match 1--#1 Shakespeare vs. #64 Virgil
And we kick off our daily tournament with a great match-up...the most celebrated author in the English language vs. the most celebrated Roman poet of all-time...Aeneid vs. Henriad...
#64-ranked Virgil (just beating out James Joyce and Ovid to get here) vs. #1-seed Shakespeare--+1 for your choice below, based on influence, quality, popularity, importance, personal taste, and all that fun stuff.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Apr 14 UTC
Besy mod post to date...
This isn't a silence, but you still can't post till tomorrow - jmo
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OzorMox (104 D)
09 Apr 14 UTC
Playing with people I know
I have read the rules that state that you must not enter a game with any pre-made alliances (metagaming). I'd like to host a game with people I know but we don't have enough players to make a full game. Instead I'm considering allowing the empty spaces to be filled by people we don't know.

Even if we play like we don't know each other are we likely to be accused of cheating and therefore is this not worth bothering with unless I have 7 people to make a private game?
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krellin (80 DX)
07 Apr 14 UTC
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Annoy the Wife and Kids
...heh heh....put a load of salmon jerky in the food dehydrator and stink the house up with it, knowing how much they hate fish. (Hey, Daddy needs his salmon jerky! Tasty snack loaded with protein and omega-3.)

Mmmmm....delicious. Heh heh...
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y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Apr 14 UTC
9 month old baby charged with attempted murder
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/baby-charged-attempted-murder-goes-hiding-pakistan-n74526

How the hell does that happen?
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krellin (80 DX)
02 Apr 14 UTC
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Coming out Friday...who's gonna see? Daughters already have our date night planned - previews look good.
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greibek (0 DX)
09 Apr 14 UTC
go go go!!!!!!!!!
all here
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
09 Apr 14 UTC
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FUCK KEVIN DURANT
FUCK KEVIN DURAAAAA ANT
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krellin (80 DX)
04 Apr 14 UTC
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Why Isn't THIS a Hate Crime
http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/03/detroit-driver-brutally-beaten-by-teens-after-he-hits-boy-gets-out-of-truck/
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Draugnar (0 DX)
05 Apr 14 UTC
So he died? Maybe the few white cops on the force need to jackboot the neighborhood one night (off duty of course) and kill 3 or 4 of the teens to teach the neighborhood a lesson about violence be getting violence.

They put one of yours in the hospital, you put one of theirs in the morgue. It's amazing how quickly attitudes change when a neighborhood comes under siege. Either every black male under 25 dies one or two per night or people realize it's escalated retaliation and their neighborhood may not live to come forward.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
08 Apr 14 UTC
"He hit a 10 year old kid bad enough to put him in critical condition as well,"
The boy broke his leg and received other minor injuries according to CNN, that's hardly critical condition.

@Krellin: the very fact that CNN reported this on national news would suggest that your so called 'libtard media' isn't covering it up.
krellin (80 DX)
08 Apr 14 UTC
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Fasces, "reporting on it" and "reporting on it with the same hysterical racial reporting that would accompany the story had a black man been beat down by a white mob" is what I am takling about.

I have no idea if it was racially motivated.

I am **100%** certain that if 20 white men beat a black man into a coma it WOULD BE A FUCKING RACIST CALL TO ACTION.

That you asshole libtards love to play, "what??? what???? what racism????" every time a white guy gets attacked just demonstrates what absolute and utter fucking frauds you are.
krellin (80 DX)
08 Apr 14 UTC
Let's see...a Latino guy gets attacked by a black kid and get's killed in self-defense....and the media says not only is this a hate crime throughout the trial period, but black activists take to the streets *across the country* with a giddy media in tow, perpetuating the story, and basically supporting the notion that not only was the Latino man a racist, but ALL of whtie America is racist....such fucked up thoughts echoed around here by the WebDip race baiters.

But this...a gang assault on a white man (and not a SINGLE witness from the 40+ people milling about)...'Ho hummmm....This isn't the racism you are looking for...move along...move along..."
stupidfighter (253 D)
08 Apr 14 UTC
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/08/justice/michigan-driver-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

New story on the matter, but still not being called a hate crime. I agree that even if the original beating wasn't racially motivated(And I would guess it was) the neighborhood's response in protecting the local ruffians who were on their way to killing a man before cops intervened is definitely racist.
fulhamish (4134 D)
08 Apr 14 UTC
Well not the whole hood perhaps:

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140408/METRO01/30408002
Octavious (2701 D)
08 Apr 14 UTC
The neighbourhood's response is perfectly normal. The first rule since time immemorial is you don't grass on your own. The original attack may or may not have had a racial element. Frankly I've never understood why it matters. They are violent thugs that should be under lock and key.
krellin (80 DX)
08 Apr 14 UTC
Actually, I think the “We Didn’t See Anything” response is just thug-life rules...you don’t rat. The first person to rat anyone out is gonna get there own. It’s not racial – it’s cultural.

I heard an interview on the radio this morning of the nurse who witnessed the attack and came to help theman, and called for the attackers to stop attacking him. She’s on rhe radio, on WJR...saying that she was there, told the attackers to stop hitting him, and then knelt down to try to stabilize him until the ambulance arrived...and...she saw nothing. She has no idea who did anything. Because if she says she does...well, on these streets, you just don’t do that. That’s not racial per se.

But the beat down...that was racial. She at first said, “I don’t think it was racial at all”. Then when asked if she thought a black man getting out of his car would have been attacked, she says, “Oh, probably not...” The voice from the streets: Not racially motivated, she says...but wouldna happened to a fellow black.

But most and worst of all is the Media that reports violence in different matters. I’m actually *far* less concerned that they didn’t report this as a racial crime (a coma is a coma is a coma, regardless of the motivation). What the *real* problem is is the media reporting *every* white on black crime as racially motivated. WHY the fuck do you think a crowd of black beats down a white guy that wants to help a child? Because they have BEEN TAUGHT by the media to hate white people; taught by Jesse Jackson and Al “The Rat” Sharpton.

It’s THUCY telling everyone in the world that any violence against blacks is racially motivated, and spreading his own brand of Noble Liberal Hatred.

(....heh heh...Al “The Rat” Sharpton....paid FBI mob informant. That’s just too good to pass up...heh heh...)
ILN (100 D)
08 Apr 14 UTC
Wtf do you have against Canada?
krellin (80 DX)
08 Apr 14 UTC
Canadians? they're lower than a shrimp in a sewer. Degenerates, all of them. And they'd be shit without sucking off the tit of the US.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Apr 14 UTC
WELL DONE KRELLIN. You have demonstrated that rascism is still a big fucking problem in your country.

It is probably has a class issue aswell, but regardless. People hate each other because of race. So are you advocating something to improve things? Or claiming that rascism doesn't exist? What? It is a big problem... have you any solutions?
Draugnar (0 DX)
08 Apr 14 UTC
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Actually, he is pointing out that racism exists against whites, despite what ericanedia would have us believe and that not all incidents of a white and a black having a disagreement where the white came out on top are racists, again despite what American Media would have us think.

See our "news services" (if they can be called that) believes that of there is a differencee in color and the white comes out on top, then it must be racist. But if the reverse is true and the black come out on top, it can't possibly be racist.

The solution? Report the fucking news fairly and equally without fucking commentary from the fucking talking heads!
Draugnar (0 DX)
08 Apr 14 UTC
American Media... I must learn to slow down on the phone and be more precise.
krellin (80 DX)
08 Apr 14 UTC
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Orath - tsk tsk tsk....In your typical rage, you, naturally, miss the point. I see little reason to even attempt to explain it to you...but...<sigh....> here we go again.

Yes, racism is, unfortunately, a part of the human condition that most likely will never be eradicated. Any reasonable person accepts this, and believes that we should do what we can to minimize racism.

This particular case that I have brought up - no doubt, even though it is evident in what I posted, is not about the individual (or mob) action, per se. It is about THE REPORTING of the action.

"Why isn't this a racist act?" is the question. Not because it is, or is not, a provable racist act. But because the issue of race was not mentioned whenit was first reported (other than by a select few media outlets). And even now, it is laregely not considered an issue.

WERE THE SITUATION REVERSED, though, the media would be spending about 95% of it's reporting time on this issue discussing the racial motivations behind the attack, and then would naturally exptrapolate to the wider problem of racism in the US in general, suggesting in thinly veiled words that "White America" is full of hate and racism against blacks....

....with the outcome of what? What happens when the predominantly White-run media outlets tell the Black audience that "Hey, all us white folk? We are racist and we hate you?" What, Mr Libtard, do you think the outcome is?

Perhaps it...wait for it...*foments hatred for whites* in the Black community...and....wait for it...inspires a mob of black youth to attack a white man who did the high crime of stopping his vehicle to check if the child he hit -- who stepped off teh curb in front of his car (i.e. NOT the driver's fault) --is OK.

You *idiot* Liberals, who *love* to *see* and *proclaim* evil and racist intent behind every White man's every action (even when they profess this to be untrue...the Thucy's of the world will tell you that you are racist *by default* and *always* by the very state of being White).

So tell me...when you live in a povertyy stricken ghetto - kept in poverty by a White-run government that only gives you enough to scrap by - and the white media constatnly tells you how much the White population hates you...tell me why wehave race problems in the US.

It's because the do-gooder Liberals - who bank and trade on playing the race card to secure votes and maintain political power - will never *let* racism die.

So what is this about? It's about equality, Orathiac. it's about the idea that just for once the media ought to be honest, and report on the fact that racism is alive and well IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

Not to say it doesn't exist in the White comunity. Obviously it does. But for all you morons to think that you are doing a "good thing" to ignore the racism in teh black community -- thus giving the silent stamp of approval to it (it wasnt' racism...it was just an attack...i.e. we DO NOT need to actually TALK ABOUT or <GASP!!!> CHANGE the racism in Balck America if we <wink wink> just ignore it...)

It is you idiots that cry racism whenver a white man wins a fight against a black man, no matter what caused them to fight - and you cheer whenthe race baiters take to the streets and foment civil unrest. But when a black MOB beats down a white man, you pathetic cowards sit idle...silently giving your approval in that you fail to be equally outraged...and it is YOU that perpetuates the *worst* kind of racism in America - the silent ACCEPTANCE of Black Racism...the <wink wink, nod nod> "they can't help themselves for their behavior" DENIGRATION of people. the racism of Low Expectations that allows blacks to use violence as a means to an ends "because they have no other choice" and allows them to words openly in public that you cowards are often too afraid to even SPELL OUT.

It is YOU that perpetuates and fosters and *encourages* racism in the US...

And THAT is why this is an issue.
President Eden (2750 D)
08 Apr 14 UTC
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Whitey's fault for hitting the boy IMO

100% got what he deserved

Why do honkies even live in Detroit? Their kind's not welcome there

/s
ILN (100 D)
08 Apr 14 UTC
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It can't be racism. There is only one race; the human race.
Draugnar (0 DX)
08 Apr 14 UTC
Once again Eden proves he is a nigger racist. /s
orathaic (1009 D(B))
09 Apr 14 UTC
"You *idiot* Liberals, who *love* to *see* and *proclaim* evil and racist intent behind every White man's every action (even when they profess this to be untrue...the Thucy's of the world will tell you that you are racist *by default* and *always* by the very state of being White)."

See the majority of my ' typical rage' is that you seem to think you know what i think.

I'm glad that you see this as a social problem, but your responce is rather unlikely to help. Which was my of asking what you intend to do about it.

''It is YOU that perpetuates and fosters and *encourages* racism in the US...'' - yeah, really? have you a single ounce of evidence to back up this claim? Have i written articles about it? I don't think you'll be able to stick that on me, though you did frame it as 'anyone who isn't acting is to blame' - yes my silence is the cause of racism in the US, even if my voice is not heard in the US...

And don't get me wrong, all the 'news media' to come out of the US is complete bollocks. But that is a problem with the free market - how the news is reported is a consequence of how you pay for it.

And this brings me back to my point. Division in your society is a problem, Us vs Them is a much easier dichotomy to hold when rich and poor are so unequal. I could ask, was the white man driving an expensive car, a status symbol which clearly identified him as 'different'? Again your 'free market' has left your society torn apart, and it's not like there was ever equality - between 'races' or the genders or the social classes.

If *you* ask only why did a white person get beat *nearly* to death by a mob of black people, then OF COURSE you'll answer, "Racism". Which is why i ask was the white man also driving a status symbol.

And this bring us to your point. The very framing of your question determines the answer, NOT to just "report on the fact" - and the media is framing the question 'how can i make the most money from reporting this story' - it's not their job to report the fact, it's their job to satisfy their audience. They are not news sources they are entertainment sources.

Is that a satisfactory answer for you? (And is it clear why the best entertainment news in the US is the guy who is not trying to do news - John Stewart is successful because he never has to defend himself for not doing news reporting... cause you know, he's a comedian.)
I wonder at times if Krellin is preparing for the race war...
krellin (80 DX)
09 Apr 14 UTC
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Socrates - I'm actually trying to prevent one.
krellin (80 DX)
09 Apr 14 UTC
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It is the Liberal Race Baiters that constantly foment violence in the streets.
ILN (100 D)
09 Apr 14 UTC
Holy shit Orthaic, that is the best I've seen someone talk like Krellin.
krellin (80 DX)
09 Apr 14 UTC
"If *you* ask only why did a white person get beat *nearly* to death by a mob of black people, then OF COURSE you'll answer, "Racism"."

No, I say racism for all sorts of reason. But of course, you **again* (and I assume ON PURPOSE) ignore the *REAL* topic I brought up – which is the MEDIA’S HANDLING of the story, and the lack of race as a topic….as opposed to how they would handle the reverse situation. You’re personal blind liberal bigotry is so blatantly obvious it isn’t even funny.

re: Race: How about the man on the street interviews of blacks in Detroit that said, "....'cause he was white..." Is that enough evidence for you that race played a factor? When the blacks themselves admit it!?!?!?

Damn, a few brave Detroit reporters (Charlie LeDuff, for one) are actually getting witnesses to the crime confess it was racially motivate!!!! And yet...Nationally, this is a news blackout topic.
krellin (80 DX)
09 Apr 14 UTC
And no -- I don't buy for a second you assertion that this is entertainment and black racism woudln't play. It woudl play **BIG TIME**. But Obama / Eric Holder / Black Mafia (Sharpton/Jackson/ETc) woudl probably burn down the news station that suggested it.
Slyguy270 (527 D)
09 Apr 14 UTC
http://www.freep.com/videonetwork/3427344749001?odyssey=mod|tvideo2|article

Coverage by local media.
krellin (80 DX)
09 Apr 14 UTC
Yeah...they show the kid with his 4 buddies, and the the kid stepping off the curb...they won't show the beating.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
09 Apr 14 UTC
''And no -- I don't buy for a second you assertion that this is entertainment and black racism woudln't play. It woudl play **BIG TIME**.''

Who is the audience watching this/these 'not fox' news media? Are they the liberals you claim don't believe it is possible for a black-on-white racism - i doubt telling them otherwise will be very effective.

I know media (and to a lesser extent advertising) like to create a story which some people already believe and then reinforce it. They make money from this, and it's a problem, they try to get as large a group behind them, but also find that excluding people helps the strategy, it's a pretty troubling issue when it comes to advertising, but i'm used to living in a country where standards in the news media haven't slid, because both the UK and Ireland (where i've been living) have one main state sponsored news service (which is independently run) and commercial competition which then has this standard to live up to...

this problem you're talking about is fairly unique to the US as far as i know.


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SYnapse (0 DX)
09 Apr 14 UTC
The Ultimate Warrior is no more
THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR HAS FINALLY GONE TO JOIN HIS IMMORTAL WARRIORS IN THE COSMIC VALHALLA!! REST IN ONE BILLION ETERNAL EXPLODING PIECES OF FIERY GLORY.....
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
07 Apr 14 UTC
Who's the Bard of WebDip? The Favorite Author Tournament!
List your 4 favorite authors below (if one of your four has already been picked, choose another.) Once we have at least 16 authors (or more, if we get more interest) we'll line them up, the first author chosen vs. the last one posted (so, yeah, Shakespeare vs. whoever the last guy/gal is, lol), and then the second vs. the second to last, etc. in +1 spinoff threads (so, yeah, Shakespeare vs. Challenger X/Y). :p Highest total after 24 hours moves on...repeat until we choose the Bard of WebDip!
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3diSpade (132 D)
08 Apr 14 UTC
I can't find the server of webDiplomacy
I'm registered on diplomacy since about one week and every time i played without any problem, but today i was unable to find the server for about 18 hours. What was happened to me? People have to pay something for play on this site? thanks :)
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taos (281 D)
09 Apr 14 UTC
this is not a cheating accusation
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=135643
just a great game with two great players playing great.
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President Eden (2750 D)
08 Apr 14 UTC
Good Players and a Joker EOG Thread
gameID=137115

Wow, what a game!
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krellin (80 DX)
07 Apr 14 UTC
Rhineland - Crimea/Ukraine Phase Two...
...and so it begins.

http://news.yahoo.com/pro-russians-storm-government-building-eastern-ukraine-132011839.html
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
09 Apr 14 UTC
Do any of you listen to a band called Future Islands
I saw them at SXSW and I just wanted to say, fuck yeah
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jwolff52 (100 D)
07 Apr 14 UTC
Unit Creation
Hello All, I am new here and don't see anywhere on the FAQ or the intro page how to create units, and with no search feature the 1154 forum pages are a bit daunting so here is a new thread, I guess...
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
03 Apr 14 UTC
South Carolina State Fossil
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/04/02/298344506/a-state-fossil-for-s-carolina-faces-mammoth-obstacle

This is why we can't have nice things.
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
08 Apr 14 UTC
Game Processing Update
I'll be rebooting processing in a moment. All games with phase lengths less then 6 hours will be paused, as I will be adding 6 hours to all games. Please post here immediately if you notice any issues with your games or if your game processed during the down time.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
07 Apr 14 UTC
Pranks
http://siz.io/s/pranks/v/best-classroom-april-fools-prank-ever

Who has some stories to tell...
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
08 Apr 14 UTC
Echo chamber
I have the place all to myself! Woohoo!!1!1!
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
07 Apr 14 UTC
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Where the hell is Game of Thrones S04 E01?
It's been 40 minutes. Get on it, pirates.
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