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Yellowjacket (835

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Calling fellow nerds

As above, below.

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While CNN Talked Duck Dynasty...

...the NDAA was passed again!

Let's all cheer for excessive Pentagon spending on things they never asked for!

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What the Heck...

...was I thinking about. Going through my writings, trying to catalog what I have complete, incomplete, what needs editing (all of it...), etc, and I came across a document with just these two paragraphs (see next post). Probably was drunk when I wrote this one (not proud, just saying). Thoughts?

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Sallah, Treebeard, Professor Arturo, or Gimli?

As before, your favorite JRD character?

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Newbie question

Is it considered bad form to take advantage of the situation when a player appears to have left a game? More specifically is it bad form to resubmit orders just prior to a turn ending when it that player won't be submitting orders? Just wondering about the etiquette of that scenario on this site. Thanks in advance!

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V-Diplomacy Down

Or am I the only one who can't connect?

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2ndWhiteLine (2601

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20 Dec 13 UTC

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Dan Savage reads Sarah Palin's Christmas book.

Good grief and great tits -

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/good-grief-and-great-tits/Content?oid=18503580

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Sitter Needed

Game position is not very good, but salvageable. Game itself is of very high quality, all players highly ranked. Should be fun! Will be away until Jan 11. Preferably someone experienced. Please post below or pm me.

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Live Game Club.

Password protected games, no CDs.

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VirtualBob (209

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19 Dec 13 UTC

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This Game is a Travesty gameID=126952

This game is a travesty.

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obiwanobiwan (248

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19 Dec 13 UTC

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Prepare to Call Me a Race-Baiting Liberal Again (Still?), Krellin...

http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/-duck-dynasty--star-phil-robertson-digs-his-hole-a-little-deeper-by-also-stinging-african-americans-173821415.html
Yep...bashing homosexuals...saying blacks were happy in the Jim Crow South...I'm just waiting for that "And the Jews killed Jesus, screw them" comment to round out the American Asshole Trifecta...

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obiwanobiwan (248 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

AHA! THERE'S krellin's magnum opus on Miley!

"We *bash* Miley Cyrus because we are tired of her overt (heterosexual) displays"

...I'll put that one up to a vote...to be honest, I just find her a talentless hack singing-wise, I couldn't give a shit about her "Look at my flat ass!" displays...it's...a flat ass...yay? I have no opinion beyond "Your ass isn't that exciting," so I'm criticizing her for being a bad singer, not for being overtly sexual, she can be as sexual as she wants--she just has to back it up with talent for me to give a shit.

"But is a fucing homo were to ass-fuck his pal on a wrecking ball everybody would quiver in fear of criticizing it for fear of “gay bashing”."

If that "fucking homo" sang as badly as Miley Cyrus does, I'd be right in line with you bashing him or her, krellin.

Also, lest I forget--

We are bashing Miley/Hypothetical Gay Singer because of their lack of talent, ie, for WHO they are, bad performers...YOU are bashing gays for what they are, ie, what your oh-so-loving God has MADE them to be (and the science is there to say it's a natural condition, so unless you want to risk a science-fail, please don't come back with "Nope, people choose to be gay. If you're mad at the overtness, again--why can Stallone be overtly hetero but Elton John can't be a flaming gay?)

About the closest I'll come to agreeing with you is it is a bit irritating that every LGBT star expects applause for coming out...that IS A bit grating (and I live near LA, home of Entertainment Tonight and like programs, so that's on the news every other night, it seems.)

Even there, for some people it's scary...so maybe they want support...

But yeah--it shouldn't be a goddamn parade every time someone comes out.

Come out, and let them be treated equally like everyone else.

This is frankly a product of the 1970s, when the only way to be gay and be heard WAS to be "flaming"...the same way a lot of feminists of that period were out-and-out feminists and couldn't go two seconds in their literature without showing off how feminist they were.

Nowadays we're more accepting, and they don't need to do that to get noticed or be accepted, however...

So why not let them marry and be equal?

kasimax (243 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

@draugnar: yeah, i already agreed with you, maybe that didn't come across.

Draugnar (0 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

Actually, I bash Miley for what she does. I think she actually *Can* sing and clearly enough other people do too, so your opinion not withstanding obi, we bash Miley for her overtly heterosexual activity and we bash the Gay Singer for wearing bottomless chaps and simulating sex with a plunger. I love Elton John's singing and he is as queer as a three dollar bill. But I get so sick of his intentional flamboyance of late. I love Christina Aguilera's singing, but she is worthy of bashing when she wears her chaps and bra and dances all provocatively on music shows.

Draugnar (0 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

@kasi - I was typing that when you posted your agreement so didn't see it until after I posted as well.

kasimax (243 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

@draugnar: just one last thing, even if i totally agree with you now: what about rammstein? i don't know if you know them or their live shows, but they are certainly being very openly sexual. i think you have to be aware that the music comes with an image that you may not like. then you simply listen to the music.

y2kjbk (4846 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

What's with the Miley Cyrus hate? I'd tap that flat ass any day.

Draugnar (0 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

What they do in their shows for their fans is their business (and I happen to love their music). But what they do on free TV is the public's business. Richard Pryor didn't curse on TV nor did Bill Cosby, but Bill has a foul mouth when he does standup for an adult crowd.

Draugnar (0 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

And Rammstein, specifically, has one song I know well. It got them in all kinds of trouble at one point, but it was a great and catchy piece. I have no problem with Miley and Wrecking Ball as it is a performance video. It was made as art. But I do have a problem with her grinding her crotch against Robin Thicke at the VMAs.

Fasces349 (0 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

I think Draugnar summed up my view on the issue perfectly here:
"Really? One asshat on a TV show made to entertain says something provocative to, gee, I don't know, *boost ratings* and you judge an entire group of people on it? Fuck you, obiwanobiwan."

y2kjbk (4846 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

Are you personally offended by it? Are you looking out for the youngin's being affected by it? Both? The latter does give me some pause, I'll admit that.

kasimax (243 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

just out of interest: what song are you referring to?

and do you think that if rammstein performed at the vmas, they should kind of "reduce" their performance? i don't say that what dear miley does there should be labeled as performance though.

Draugnar (0 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

@kasi - YEs. The VMAs are broadcast during primetime across public airwaves. And "Du hast" was the song. I remember the lyrics, when translated, were quite the uproar (not that lyrics mean shit to a catchy tune in my view).

@Y2K - I am not worried about the younguns or about my own sensibilities. I am concerned with the rights of the general populace to go about their public lives and not worry about *their* sensibilities or their right to prevent *their* young'uns from seeing certain material. We have laws against public indecency and intoxication and such because *society* as a whole has deemed those things to be restricted from the general public view. Now, if you want to do a rock concert, your fans know what to expect and anyone is free to walk out if they find themselves offended. If you want to make a music video then you have to accept that it may get edited in some way for the public airwaves but that your artistic integrity will be maintained on your DVD/Bluray and on fee-based services and anyone watching is free to change the channel.

But if you are groping your S/O at the mall and may as well be having sex during the holidays right there by Santa's house, then you are carrying it to far and being overt and should be "bashed" (in a metaphorical or verbal sense, obviously).

y2kjbk (4846 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

So what's the issue with what Miley did at the VMA's? Is it the fact that it wasn't her show and was an awards presentation and people weren't there to see just her? I.e. if she had her own concert and invited Robin Thicke and thrusted at him all night, no problem?

kasimax (243 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

okay, yeah, i get your primetime point. awesome song by the way.

mendax (321 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

For what it's worth, I don't have any real problems with the sexuality of Miley's performance. There were, however, certainly aspects of cultural appropriation with it.

y2kjbk (4846 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

I reread your response to kasimax and gather your answer to my last question is yes, Draug. Correct?

Draugnar (0 )
19 Dec 13 UTC

@y2k - It was not only an awards show, but broadcast on public airwaves during primetime. A concert situation would be different and would depend on the specific circumstances. Basically, I believe in public decency laws and "lewd and lascivious behavior" on public airwaves is a violation of those laws. Remember Janet Jackson's nipple during the Superbowl Halftime Show?

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General Donkey (0

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why do people waste time debating with krellin?

A bitter and twisted reactionary who feels the need to vent his splenetic nonsense with monotonous regularity.Question is why do so many people get sucked in to wasting time debating with him?

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DipperDon (6457

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19 Dec 13 UTC

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Diplomacy Face-to-Face in Houston, TX

This is your invitation to play Diplomacy in Houston.

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goldfinger0303 (3157

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18 Dec 13 UTC

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India needs to learn some Diplomacy

Their response to a consular's arrest in New York seems very overblown and heavy handed. Is it just me?

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/18/21950429-india-blocks-cheap-booze-for-us-diplomats-after-envoys-arrest-and-strip-search-in-nyc?lite

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VirtualBob (209

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Just wondering ...

Is there any topic that can be raised on this board without everyone jumping in with "expert" opinions?

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MitchellCurtiss (164

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18 Dec 13 UTC
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Is this the real life?

Is this just fantasy?

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19 Dec 13 UTC

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Feature Idea...

I wish I had time to learn PHP and I'd code it myself... More inside and it isn't pre-typed, so go ahead and do your "inb4" stuff. It will be there momentarily. :-)

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13 Dec 13 UTC

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Justice in an NK Stylee......

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daniyhungre (100

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18 Dec 13 UTC

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I never see any good full press WTA games. Join me.

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17 Dec 13 UTC

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facebook monitoring self-censorship...

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2013/12/facebook_self_censorship_what_happens_to_the_posts_you_don_t_publish.html

this might be helpful if we could understand, we might be able to leverage it here to improve the quality of conversation!

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BusDespres (182

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Water Pilgrims or Air Pilgrims?

Real question.

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Take good care of your teeth ASAP

Everybody start taking good care of your teeth as soon as you can. I started late, which is better than never, but now all the fillings I got when I was a teenager are wearing out, so I’m reliving all of those experiences at a fast tempo.

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How to Deal With Winning the Lottery

Here's a great guide for how you should use your jackpot winnings.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/17/world/americas/canada-lottery-winner-charity/index.html?hpt=us_c1

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abgemacht (1076

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13 Dec 13 UTC

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Kim Jong Un Executes Uncle As Traitor

That's going to make family reunions awkward...

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BusDespres (182

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18 Dec 13 UTC

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Gunboat need responses.

So ive been able to get 5 or 6 people to wanna oplay gunboat.. post on here if you want me to try again if this one fails. if i get atleast 5 ill remake a game

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Money Philosophy

Liberals: Always focused on how to get other people's money, how to take money away from "rich" to give to others that have not earned it, but are somehow "owed" it (because they were born).

Conservatives: Focused on how to grow personal wealth, improve one's self and be financially self-reliant so as to not burden others.

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LStravaganz (407

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Ashes Test 4 and 5 Predictions?

Do you think that England's disastrous series will continue in Melbourne and Sydney? How optimistic should Alistair Cook be about his team avoiding a 2006/07-style whitewash?

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abgemacht (1076

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18 Dec 13 UTC

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Need an Italy! Decent Position!

gameID=129406

Started a game to teach England to play. Anyone interested?

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18 Dec 13 UTC
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a note to persia in gameID=131669

the best way to win (for you) is to get carthage to draw. which means we want to make him feel as though he cannot win. what say you?

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Meta Gaming

If someone makes a promise to help a player in a future game for help in a current game, is that metagaming? Seems like an easy yes. What is the penalty for metagaming? Seems like a ban is the answer.

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