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Triumvir (1193 D)
30 Sep 13 UTC
SoW, Fall 2013 - Professors' Commentary
The official thread for the SoW commentary. Please: only SoW professors should be making posts in here. Thank you.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
29 Sep 13 UTC
The blankmind-free thread
We have 18-ish hours left. So let's talk Princess Diana. Seriously, who wouldn't believe that the British royal family is a bunch of alien reptiles?
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
30 Sep 13 UTC
Been waiting on mod reply for an hour
Are there no mods on?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
26 Sep 13 UTC
Capitalism..... it won't last, it can't last
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24277277
The current US economic model based on capitalist ideology is unsustainable, if the US govt don't make changes soon the decision will be taken out of their hands, a run on the US$ is a lot closer than you think.
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blankflag (0 DX)
30 Sep 13 UTC
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bannable offense
the seymour hersh joins the blank club http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2013/sep/27/seymour-hersh-obama-nsa-american-media
suggests abc and nbc be shut down and 90% of corporate media news editors of today should be fired
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josunice (3702 D(S))
29 Sep 13 UTC
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Please Remove that Password Warning...
I play on a cell and don't have the real estate to spare. Seriously? Does anyone truly need that warning?
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nudge (284 D)
27 Sep 13 UTC
Earworm alert!
Stuck in my head is "Rio" by Michael Nesmith. Help me!!!!
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 Sep 13 UTC
NFL Week 4: Pick 'em--Do Must-Win Games Exist in Week 4? And Who Stays Undefeated?
We kick things off tonight as Colin Kaepernick, Jim Harbaugh and the 49ers hope to remind folks why they were the NFC Champions last year...by playing one of the teams who gave them the most trouble last year, the Rams! The 0-3 Giants try and prove they're not dead (yet) against the Alex Smith, Andy Reid and the surprisingly-alive Chiefs...and a battle of undefeated teams on MNF, the Saints and ...Dolphins??? Let's get started, Week 4--PICK 'EM!
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josunice (3702 D(S))
29 Sep 13 UTC
Just a Reminder... (Next Suggestion Here)
Best post goes to Kestas! What might the next warning be?
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
28 Sep 13 UTC
Can a European legally buy/wear a gun in America...
...without doing anything special other than being in America, being over 21 and paying for the gun? Also if you can, is this regular bussiness? Are there, like, gun shops near airports so all the foreigners coming in can rent/buy guns?
Just trying to understand this part of American gun laws.
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Triumvir (1193 D)
29 Sep 13 UTC
A TA or Two
We could use another TA or two for the SoW game. If you're interested, post in the SoW thread. Thanks.
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blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
the navy uses mixed caps?
i think i am going to vomit. the navy is now allowing mixed caps in its communications. once a bastion of all-caps, the organization was inflicted this year with the plague of mixed caps that has infiltrated society. almost as disgusting as the mixed-caps road signs.
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
27 Sep 13 UTC
Why?
Why is it that the mall shooting in Kenya is getting so much more press than the church massacre in Pakistan?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10334556/Christians-now-suffering-mass-martyrdom-says-Archbishop-of-Canterbury.html
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Indybroughton (3407 D(G))
27 Sep 13 UTC
Automated Disbandment - who knew?
I really don't understand the logic :) http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=124968#gamePanel.
Why did a fleet west of Texas survive and an army near Florida disband, for the Florida player? Thought it was "closest to home survives"?
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blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
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breaking: jmos mother worked at a thermometer factory
while pregnant to make ends meet
http://www.naturalnews.com/042225_mercury_exposure_homosexuality_ibises_bird.html
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blankflag (0 DX)
28 Sep 13 UTC
bought off tech corporations: how we get to 1984!
are you one of those naive people thinking that if your computer is off and not connected to the internet that you cannot be spied upon? http://www.infowars.com/91497/
so... apparently modern intel processors have the ability to (assuming your computer is plugged in, or is a laptop with a battery in it) be turned on remotely, and can be controlled through a secret backdoor 3G capability that you do not have access to.
PSMongoose (2384 D)
28 Sep 13 UTC
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Live in a underground bunker. Signals can't get through. Solved.
PSMongoose (2384 D)
28 Sep 13 UTC
Oh, and:

In the comments...
"The only built in AMT component in a post-SandyBridge CPU is the processing unit , the radio and the antenna are provided by the motherboard. You must have a special motherboard to go with it for you vPro being remotely accessible via 4G."

He sites theses wikipedia articles as evidence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_vPro
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_AMT_versions

orathaic (1009 D(B))
28 Sep 13 UTC
The word is 'cites', not 'sites' - and wikiscanner - the tool which tracked ip addresses which edit wikipedia and let you know who has been editing it (ie which pages have been edited by the CIA/White House, or someone using one of their ip addresses) - if offline :( So if you cite wikipedia on any 'sensitive' topic, you may not have a reliable source.
PSMongoose (2384 D)
29 Sep 13 UTC
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Well, considering that I also wrote "theses" in that sentence, let's assume that I knew that "cite" is the proper spelling and I simply didn't spell-check it. Likewise, it looks like you misplaced an 'f' for an 's' in "addresses) - is offline :(" - probably just a typo.

Also, when researching further, I came across a sensible explanation for the in-feasibility of this "secret backdoor 3G capability." He explains it better than I could, currently:

"Well, let's be realistic. 3G requires an antenna. Those i5 and i7 chips I've been working with need to sit under a massive copper heat-pipe-heatsink to work at all. Last I was able to check, 3G doesn't work in a 5 ounce copper faraday cage.

And, they consume no small amount of power.

So, for this to work, the CPUs would need their own power source, but 3G doesn't work like that, no power source is included, and the setup is not passively powerable. The smallest 3G capable radios are burning microwatts, but that's far from nothing at all. Where do those microwatts come from when the CPU is off?

Also, 3G uses 800, 850, 1700, 1900, and 2100 mhz, depending. My spec-an doesn't show anything in these bands when my CPUs are off.

So: When do these stealth 3G chips activate?

Where do they get their power?

And how do they work from inside a computer, under a big heatsink, with a 2 oz copper-clad motherboard underneath?

And why can't I see the 3G footprint from an Intel CPU on my spectrum analyzer?

Oh, and assuming all of the above was working, whose account pays for the 3G bandwidth these backdoors use? No SIM card?

Let's approach breathless claims like this with a bit of analytical skepticism, until such things can be proven. Perhaps the author is heavily vested in AMD?"
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
how do you know the chips consume no power? if your computer is "off" but still plugged in, it is drawing in a small amount of power - it is kind of hard to prevent that.
Invictus (240 D)
29 Sep 13 UTC
1984 would be pretty bad. But after a little while we would get to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aarB12YaAgE
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
ok apparently intel responded with

An Intel spokesperson, responding to TechEye, said: "First, Intel does not participate in government efforts to decrease security in technology, and does not include backdoors for unauthorised access into its products.
"Second, the piece on vPro is based on incorrect information, assumptions and misunderstandings; it is wrong on many levels," the spokesperson said. "The underlying technology is not new and has been in place for more than 7 years."

ok... so according to this pr rep the technology has existed for 7 years... and... he does not really say what it can do. so i am still unsure of this.
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
the fact that he did not actually address the question of whether there was built in 3g is a bit strange though.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
29 Sep 13 UTC
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This article is a load of horseshit.

The Baseboard Management Controller (which I'm sure is where this originated from) is a very well-known and useful feature of a computer's architecture. I wasn't aware some came with radio chips, but I'm no surprised. But, this is all on the mobo, not on the CPU. Furthermore, there is no way any of this is secret. You can't hide radio waves radiating out of your computer, nor the extra chips that would use it.

Complete rubbish.
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
but i will concede that even if the government did not have the technology, they may want people to think they do. so it could be either way. i suppose i should not trust infowars.com outright. i have been burned by them before.
Invictus (240 D)
29 Sep 13 UTC
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infowars.com is 90% nonsense, 10% obviousness.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
29 Sep 13 UTC
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Also, let's be realistic here. This is Wintel we're talking about. If this were true, we'd all be getting pop-ups at least once a day telling us our spy chip drivers needed to be updated.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
29 Sep 13 UTC
@blank
"how do you know the chips consume no power? if your computer is "off" but still plugged in, it is drawing in a small amount of power - it is kind of hard to prevent that."

If you're really that worried, just measure how much power your computer is consuming.
PSMongoose (2384 D)
29 Sep 13 UTC
@blankflag,
What about laptops? If this was true, laptop batteries would lose their charge extremely quickly, making the 'secret spying' both noticeable and impractical.

Still, the common-sense evidence of how-the-heck-is-the-signal-getting-out is more convincing. An iPhone antenna, for instance, goes along the length of the phone - which is much lager than an intel CPU. Furthermore, an iPhone doesn't have the problem of being surrounded by signal-damaging interference (e.g. heatsink, etc.). Although this could be remedied by having the CPU access a separate 3G wireless card, your article clearly states that "Intel Core vPro processors contain a “secret” 3G chip."
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
related: nsa can control your windows computer via ADVAPI.DLL
http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/5/5263/1.html
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
same website with info on a lotus backdoor
http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/2/2898/1.html

i do not know much about lotus. but it is useful because we would be naive to think that the only backdoors are the ones that are exposed. so we should learn from the few that are uncovered.
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
i do not know. i am honestly not sure what kind of an antenna 3g requires. you are right, it could be a bs story. but who knows. if the wireless does require a decent antenna, then they may go after laptop manufacturers rather than chip manufacturers. but i think a lot of the laptops have the entire motherboard produced by intel.

but yeah, i honestly do not know 100%.
Invictus (240 D)
29 Sep 13 UTC
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That article's from 1999. You might as well post a story on the government being able to break and repair wax seals on envelopes.
Invictus (240 D)
29 Sep 13 UTC
Both are from 1999.
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
related: india now using typewriters for sensitive information
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/indian-high-commission-to-use-typewriters-for-sensitive-information-20130928-2ukkr.html

related: russia now using typewriters for sensitive information
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/russia-reverts-paper-nsa-leaks
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
nsa was only spying on us before 9/11, then? is that what you are saying invictus? maybe after 9/11 those secret backdoor nsa deals were all closed?

or... could it be that it was massively increased in scale, and all that changed was bush/obama's threats of retaliation against leaks, or the money dumped in to better hide it, or obama's "blow a whistle, get tortured in my gulag" policy
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
related: nist basically admits that rsa (computer encryption) we used that it validated was probably backdoored by the nsa all along and now recommends against a particular algorithm in rsa that it had previously signed off on.

http://www.scmagazine.com/nist-and-rsa-recommend-avoiding-encryption-algorithm-standard/article/313087/
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
on the original story, i did not take the time to look at the links in that infowars article, but here is one

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2369110,00.asp

after reading it, it seems to me as though there may not be 3g in the chip afterall, just your typical infowars bs. however, what there is is an ability to access hardware from the chip itself, and be remotely controlled without the person at the computer being able to do anything about it.

presumably this could be done even before 3g, they were bought off who knows how long ago. but this new chip just extends that remote-control ability to computers that are 3g enabled. so the 3g is in the computer, not the chip.

this is my conclusion right now. based on a couple articles i skimmed.
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
related: google street view cars collected emails, passwords, and anything else they could grab off of wifi networks all over the world
http://business.time.com/2013/09/13/why-google-may-owe-you-money/
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
related: the nsa has the ability to get pretty much anything off of pretty much any smartphone
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/how-the-nsa-spies-on-smartphones-including-the-blackberry-a-921161.html
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
related: google uploads all wifi passwords off of android devices to its databases
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/17/google-wifi-passwords-android_n_3936809.html

(combine this with the google maps story that they are intercepting all the wifi signals they can from their streetmaps cars and you have some sweet surveillance synergy)
PSMongoose (2384 D)
29 Sep 13 UTC
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Related: BREAKING NEWS! A recent study has shown that ANYONE can post ANYTHING on the internet ANYTIME whether it is the TRUTH or NOT!

Related: BREAKING NEWS! A recent study has shown that WEBSITES can attain more VIEWERS by posting CONTENT that INSULTS or DISCREDITS figures of NOTORIETY or AUTHORITY!

Related: BREAKING NEWS! A recent study has shown a INVERSE RELATIONSHIP between the ACCURACY of the INFORMATION and the POPULARITY of the SITE!

Related: BREAKING NEWS! A recent study has shown that CONSPIRACY THEORIES tend to be JUST THEORIES!
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
29 Sep 13 UTC
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@ blankflag: "i suppose i should not trust infowars.com"

This is the most sensible thing you have ever posted on this forum. Well done.
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
the majority of those ones i posted are openly admitted to be true. so... which ones do you have problems with? the backdoor in rsa? the backdoor in windows? the hacking of all smartphones? google sending all wifi passwords to its server? google streetmaps collecting all wifi data it can?

actually on the last one there is a court case on it if you want to look into it.
blankflag (0 DX)
29 Sep 13 UTC
oh and i forgot - maybe the lotus backdoor? or the orders by the russian and indian governments to type sensitive documents up by typewriter?


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Flex01 (29 D)
28 Sep 13 UTC
Problem with gameID=126551
Italian player of game ID=126551 claim that "The moves done by the site algorithm was not the ones [he] did", write a global message and leaves the game!
I don't know if someone could verify that, but is it possible to put the game in such a mode where a new player could pick up his country ? The game is in Spring 1902 and the situation of Italy is fine. Thx
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Emac (0 DX)
26 Sep 13 UTC
Scary parts of the Affordable Care Act
If you aren't American the particulars of the ACA don't affect you. If you are American you need to educate yourself on the truly scary nature of the law leaving completely aside the political debate. It is the law and it has real consequences for Americans.
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
25 Sep 13 UTC
I fail at gunboat
But it's OK. Gunboat is not real diplomacy.

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=126628
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
26 Sep 13 UTC
England solo. Sweet....
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
22 Sep 13 UTC
This one is for Thucy
Since you keep claiming Syria was a victory for Obama, heres a good article about why it wasn't:

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21586565-deal-over-syrias-chemical-weapons-marks-low-those-who-cherish-freedom-weakened-west
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
27 Sep 13 UTC
Banned Books
What book is ruining our country the most this year? Captain Underpants. Thanks a lot Obama.

http://www.ala.org/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/top10
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
25 Sep 13 UTC
My email was hacked
And so, my email was hacked by the FBI.
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
27 Sep 13 UTC
Need a 7th
gameID=126757
Got a CD in the first year, so we're rebooting. PM me for the password. 36-hour turns, PPSC, cheap entry, Anon, full press.
Mods: couldn't find the 'Advertise non-live games' thread, so I started this one (sorry if I missed it).
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
27 Sep 13 UTC
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IPCC finally admit it's not lying
mobile.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24292615
What is actually in the current report.
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blankflag (0 DX)
22 Sep 13 UTC
7 in 10 americans: bailouts benefitted the banks
even 5 years after recession policies started, 3 in 10 americans still deny the fact that they were designed to benefit large banks and financial institutions. at the expense of the rest of the country and the economy as a whole

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/09/20/majority-of-americans-say-banks-large-corporations-benefitted-most-from-u-s-economic-policies/
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SYnapse (0 DX)
20 Sep 13 UTC
Websites
Can anyone make me a cheap website?
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grking (100 D)
26 Sep 13 UTC
News?
This question may have been asked before, but where do you all get your news? Also, which do you all think is the best organization for news?
I've recently been using BBC and Al Jazeera.
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
26 Sep 13 UTC
Dialect Quiz
http://spark.rstudio.com/jkatz/DialectQuiz/
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
13 Sep 13 UTC
Feel Free to Shoot the Messenger
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/new-rifle-mimics-machine-gun-s-rapid-fire----and-it-s-legal-145153186.html 450 rounds per minute. Explain to me why you want/need that, gun fans. This isn't even a 2nd Amendment challenge on my part, since I lost that fight here LONG ago. :) But...come on...I'm legitimately curious--450 rounds per minute? Are deer/home invaders suddenly taking running lessons from the Flash? WHY? (And why stop there, how about 1,000 rounds minute!)
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