Looks like he tied you up in a pretty sick double knot then.

2am? Wtf are you doing up that late playing dip? It was only 11pm here in sunny Az.

I am.usually up till 1 or 2 in the morning chatting on web dip. Don't ya know I have no life?

It's Monday. I'm sure justice is being demanded everywhere. Your boss wants you to work. You want your boss to pop a vein.

My eye doctor told me last te there was a chance I might not need another needle in my eye then this visit he said I was showing great improvement but I still had to get another shot in the eyeball today. I DEMAND JUSTICE (plus just ice in a bag for my eye please).

Draugnar, do you need a sitter while you get this surgery?

No, it takes 45 minutes in the office. I do it once a month then go home and sleep the afternoon away with an eye patch on. Next one is 6 weeks this time though (W00t!) so they are getting better. The shots will eventually end once the swelling fully subsides in the retina.

Bump to prevent thread lock.

Bump, because Lando needs this thread.

He knows he needs this thread.

I DEMAND JUSTICE FOR LANDO!

Vent lando, vent! You demand justice, and we demand entertaining drama!

I would like to point out that I have received justice via private messages from kestas, therefore Landowner (oops, I meant lando) can rest

Ok, SYnapse. That one actually made me laugh out loud. +1

This concerns the blankflag/philcore and Landowner cases.

Finally! Can I stop the auto payments now for your representation in my case?

Thank you for resurrecting. One of my favorite self started threads

Hey 2WL it's over here

Oh there you are I was getting it confused with Lando's demands.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=115271&msgCountryID=0&rand=8332#chatboxanchor

What...Russia should have been eliminated... Justice!!!

cries in silence

How did that asshole survive...shame everywhere

I DEMAND THAT THE MODS STOP BEING HUMAN, START BEING PERFECT, AND SERVE ME PRETENTIOUS WINE SO I CAN GET TRASHED WHILE I TRASH THE FORUM

I sent a message to a player, asking for a DMZ. The player still moved in, citing not knowing my request. I send the logged message but the player insisted its not in his log. When I wonder if the game had a bug, the player did not want the moderator to look into the log.

Would the above scenario matches the violation of rule 4) in this link webdiplomacy.net/rules.php

Basically this player is using the software as a mean to cover his track. When I wonder if the moderator can look into his claim [not having my message sent to him], he said I am using the moderator as part of the politics.

What ya think?

05:03 AM [Pacific-Russia]:You sent me no text proposing the Poland DMZ proposal. I want to recognise the vile creature for what you are, and I will expose your insecure nature to the rest of the world.
05:22 AM [You]:Really, you gotta be kidding me?
~05:03 AM [Pacific-Russia]:there, happy?
~05:03 AM [Pacific-Russia]:there, happy?
~05:03 AM [Pacific-Russia]:why don't you say this: "I make up stories about beating children, and I find brain damage funny. I care about no one else, and I am an insecure person"
~05:03 AM [Pacific-Russia]:surely its not that hard.
05:24 AM [You]:Wow, you know what, there is a possibility the game had a bug and did not send the message to your box. In my box it shows that I sent, but if you did not see it, then it's the game's bug.

I can petition the Moderator to prove it to you and fix the bug.
~05:03 AM [Pacific-Russia]:Now you're just finding excuses to bring the moderator into this.
~05:03 AM [Pacific-Russia]:Yes?
05:26 AM [You]:No, clearly the software had a bug?
~05:03 AM [Pacific-Russia]:In which case the moderators already know about it. Don't deny it. You want to bring moderators into this.
~05:03 AM [Pacific-Russia]:I have no problem with this 'bug'.
05:35 AM [You]:If they already know about it, they will tell me, "We already know about it. No need to look into it." but if they don't know about it, they will look, then improve the software. Just leave it to the moderators, they know what to do.

He's lying to you, don't bother the mods when it's obvious. He's going to keep attacking you, he doesn't care about your DMZ request. He would just rather lie about it then tell you he's going to continue to attack you. So defend against him, you gave found an enemy, now fight him!

That's not using the software as a diplomatic tool, that's using your gullibility as a diplomatic tool.

"Lying is fine in Diplomacy except when it gives mods/admins unnecessary work to do!"

MeepMeep is correct, it is against the site rules, so is accusing other people of breaking site rules on the forum or in press.

Even so, the other player is a bit of a bitch for straight up lying about not getting the message. At least have the balls to make up a believable lie.

Wait a minute. I thought pointing out when someone posted a cheating accusation on the forum was fiune. That would be accusing someone of breaking a site rule on the forum. I'm so confused.

Also, I have it officially from a mod in the past that you can claim the system misran your orders to others as long as you don't try to use the mods to prove your point. The mods should just ignore any request to check the orders for someone else. It doesn't cause them any effort to say "we can neither confirm nor deny that he has or has not submitted a request for validation not can we confirm nor deny that we are looking to the orders in question." It's a simple no comment that, when delivered consistently every time, says nothing about whether the player is telling the truth or not and costs the mods no time at all.

I have used, and will continue to use, that ploy in game. As long as I don't get to the mods unless I think it is a legit screwup (i.e. as long as I don't try to use the mods as a diplomatic tool) there should be no rule against this.

Yeah, that's an interesting point Draugnar. It really depends on your definition of cheating. If you consider it breaking site rules then pointing out someone breaking the rules isn't allowed. If you mean it as breaking a rule to get an in game advantage then pointing out someone breaking the rules is fine. Pretty much the only time anyone will get warned and then silenced if they continue is in accusing someone of being a multi. Since that is a suspicion no matter how much "proof" appears on the forum. You're right though, we should ask Kestas to update that wording to be more clear.

The rules might have been updated since that time Draugnar. I'm not sure which mod you talked to but the rules specifically say that saying your orders came our wrong due to a bug isn't allowed. If you could send me the email or point out the thread the current team will take a look into it. There have been some problems with orders not loading right, especially in world games where people's javascript are timing out, so false claims make it really hard for us to narrow down what is an actual bug and what is just someone trying to fool an opponent.

"Falsely accusing someone of being a multi-accounter/meta-gaming to rally others against them in a game, or claiming that your orders didn't come out the way you entered them to cover up your motives, means mods/admins spend time looking for cheaters/bugs which were made up."