Many = how many?
The deep south? (Very not surprised if its South Carolina or Alabama)

@ND - bullshit, i've working in polling centers in ireland, and the instructions we were given were to not ask for id, (because people might be offended) also polling cards are acceptable.

We were expected to check 1 in 4 people and this could be done by waiting for people to come up with passport in hand (because passport is the only id everyone can have) Also it was not enforced by any means.

So please remove Ireland from your list. It is not realistic.

All registered voters would have a polling card posted to them at their registered address. And yes this explicitally excludes the homeless from being able to vote. Which is pretty crappy form of inclusion.

BB wrote "Youd be surprised how fearful the inner cities are of Cops, ID's, government. Many Black men dont carry an ID or even own one. Its a different life."

But as you did in the 60ies civil rights movement,  make sure all those black men get an id and get them out voting too. And so should everyone else do too!

Remove that silly requirement to register in advance!

Well if you registered to vote and you have your registration card. Why do people assume that Minorities would be filling the voting booth and comitting voter fraud. you do realize voter fraud is a felony right? Who the hell would risk a felony just to keep Trump out of office?

I understand it has happened before. but its been far more often, and more sinister that the biggest voter fraud moments in elections have been from ballots being thrown out in florida (favored republican outcome), and dead people's votes somehow counting (chicago style voter fraud)

ballots with hanging chads that werent punched properly, and electronic voting machines having deliberate confusing screen options, I remember one year they put Ralph Nader at the top of the ballot in some state, instead of the top two candidates. Some states just set things up weirdly, and its not fair that they ask the VOTERS to be honest, when its crooked election commissions.

End rant

No one does. But why not fix your electoral system is you can?

If you can.

because it our election system is insane. you have big money, big banks, walking talking clown polar opposite candidates, redistricting, gerrymandering, states using 97 different voting systems instead of making it standardized state to state, youve got long lines at the polls, ballots thrown out for using machines that dont punch the holes properly, youve got people blaming one political party or the other for 1 key issues when theres about a 1000 problems. Fixing the electoral college has nothing to do at all with improving the election. Republicans arguing that the electoral college needs to change need to study history. They havent won a GENERAL election in 2 decades.

okay, correction, GW Bush did indeed crush the hell out of John Kerry in the popular vote

@" walking talking clown polar opposite candidates" - em, i hate to tell you, the two major candidates are rather similar in lots of their policy positions.

Like if you took the range of Jill Stein to Gary Johnson, yeah that would be a fairly sizable difference, comparable to most European parliamentary systems. But third parties are consider worth nothing in the US... so yeah, two very similar candidates if you ask me.

Pretty much every country in the planet that is a democracy/republic requires id.

Those countries also have free healthcare, sensible taxes, and affordable education.

(Kermit)
But thats none of my business...

This is the most pretentious thread.

Even Iran has elections... why do you suppose voter fraud isnt even a concern in Iran? Ohhhh its voter suppression. Simple counter to alleged democracy

Please don't bring up Iran. I'll rant.

Just saying the majority if voter fraud is from election commissions and governments. Not some Black dude who votes 27 times.

Don't make me rant.

Please start driving around without a driver's license (ID) Brain. Since you are against all forms of ID then I hope that you choose to live your life without one.

You guys are talking over each other without reading what either of you actually mean.

I have a drivers liscense and a passport. Im voting by absentee ballot in the state of nebraska. Im a registered voter who votes in every election. Im White. Age 32

Im saying voter ID laws stifle votes from minorities more than they prevent fraud. Voter fraud is a federal crime. As in hard time in fuckin jail.

The majority of voter fraud over the last 4.6 billion fuckin years has been from corrupt election agencies bad machines and dead people. Not blacks not latinos

Am I clear yet?

If you wanna prevent voter fraud prevent voter suppression which is a far more dangerous form of fraud then billie joe buttfuck forgetting his ID at home.

everyone needs an ID to vote. It's ridiculous that we don't have that. Also not everything is about race like the 'identity politics' democrats want you to believe. This issue is about the sanctity of the vote and common sense hence the reason why we need an ID to vote.

Again the people **Least** likely to have an ID are poor, inner city, minorities. To deny them the right to vote because they dont go get an ID also is suspicious.