You should be able to know by now.
The only reason I keep on doing this is that I can't stand people that are bigger egoists than me.

I understand where hellalt is coming from, but that is why the point system is useful. If you have more points, you can create high pot games to avoid the "crappy noobs". Surely people new to diplomacy should be able to play games as well right? So they can have low pot games and the better players can have their high pot games. You can also password your games so that you know who is going to play. I find that avoiding the problem is easy.

Signed,

Draugnar

Talking about egoists lets examine one from an ongoing game
Here is the dialog:

Me: Is there any chance we could cancel this game?
I am out of points and I need some to continue playing in the TMG Trophy
None of my games are anywhere near to end so I need to cancel some to make it.
If you agree vote cancel
I guess Russia wont agree...

Russia: I've never cancelled a game, and I feel you plight. Why not just plough into England and win the game quickly. I guess planning and timing are everything. By the way, what is the TMG trophy?

Me:http://phpdiplomacy.tournaments.googlepages.com/themasters

Russia: Well, good luck. Will they wait for you next game?

Me: no they wont

Russia: Well, then I'm sorry. Why did you spend your last 101 on this game?

Me: They weren't the last at the time I joined in.
Saying you're sorry doesn't really helps me, does it?
So just spare it :P

Russia: OK then. You asked. Such is life. Don't reallly feel sorry for you with that attitude. Good luck.

Me: Well I'm sorry I don't like hypocrites who say they are sorry but do nothing. Good luck to you too.

Russia: I don't like people who expect others to cover for their screw ups. I don't pause games, I can't imagine cancelling. Take responsibility for your short-sightedness. Don't be pissed because the rest of us don't cover for you. But much luck. And I really did mean I was sorry, but that was before you showed me why I shouldn't be. Good luck in your other games.

Me: It seems you are the one that got pissed dude.
I just asked for something.
You could have plainly say no and that would be the end of it
But don't try to play it a smartass to me
"Good luck in your other games"
Is that supposed to imply that I will have no luck in this one?
Well, good luck to you for this game.
You are really going to need it

Russia: You really do have a chip on your shoulder. I mean good luck in all the games. Try to lighten up a little. I know you have trouble when you don't get your way, but get over it and grow up. You asked for a favour and acted like your deserved the cancel. You gave the sob story about it. I said no. Grow up and good luck in all your games. I would never play smartass with you, you probably wouldn't understand the jokes. Grow up.
Me: You cant stand not having the last word, can you?

Vote: Who's the biggest egoist. Me or Russia?

I would vote you because you believe that the game should be cancelled because you do not have enough points to enter the next game of the TMG Trophy; a predicament that can only be blamed on your lack of foresight in not leaving yourself enough points to continue.

I never said that the game SHOULD be canceled. I just asked for a cancel.

Watch out, hellalt, here comes the WAAAAbulance.

You should never have asked. Cancel should be reserved for games that get screwed up for one reason or another (too many CDs, orders got screwed do to a game pause error, etc.) and not because a whiny little girl decides she wants to have her points back and so she can go play another game.

Grow up, hellalt.

True, but then you proceeded to attack him by saying "Just spare it", which created the entire argument. You thrive on creating controversy and being the center of attention.

For example when you say:
"But don't try to play it a smartass to me
"Good luck in your other games"
Is that supposed to imply that I will have no luck in this one?"

It is obvious that you just want the argument to continue, because that implication is quite a stretch. Someone is just trying to be courteous and you are making it into a pissing match.

P.S. You are getting better at trolling by making everyone think you're a whiny little asshole. And this from a guy who claimed in another thread to actually like you in some ways...

well put Draugnar.

that's just unfair.
You are all prejudiced against me.
I can ask for a pause, cancel or draw.
People have the right to turn it down.
But there is no reason to attack someone just because you don't like his request

He didn't attack you! You attacked him. All he said was sorry and good luck, and you spun it. And I have no prejudice against you. I have played one game with you and we did little communication as you were eaten up quickly because you were Austria. Don't play it like I have some sort of prejudice against you.

Just spare it was followed by :P to suggest this was meant as humor.
Like I said before what that dialog proves is that most people here are even more egoists than me.
Talking to me is just like seeing your faces in the mirror.
And you surely don't like what you see.

"So just spare it :P

Russia: OK then. You asked. Such is life. Don't reallly feel sorry for you with that attitude. Good luck."

If saying " just spare it :P" can be considered an attitude then I guess self censorship is installed deep into your culture

maybe you should also self lobotomize yourselves

No talking to you is not like looking in a mirror, and I will give you that he responded a bit harshly, but putting :P next to things doesn't make them not provoking. If I said, "You're a dick. :P" would you be fine with it?

"Well I'm sorry I don't like hypocrites who say they are sorry but do nothing."

This sentence is pure gold.

if you consider "spare it :P" equal to "you are a dick :P" then you should check out the way you understand and interpret language

No I don't. But saying "So just spare it :P" is going to get a negative response even with the silly ":P"

I agree. The true question is why such a remotely aggressive sentence will trigger a negative response. Maybe because people are used to respond negatively? Not only in games and forums but generally speaking.

I would say that that is a fair assessment. Maybe he should of just let it go, but I think that nowadays that is very uncommon.

Is hellalt like thirteen?

he is a 30 year old Greek lawyer according to his profile...

Unfortunately, I actually believe he may be a lawyer in Greece as he says.

yeah, I'm the common type of an atheist, anarchist 13year old that listens to Greenday and Offspring the whole day while reading Bakunin quotes.

"Studying Internet Psychology & Web Science"

Which to me sounds like an excuse to be a dick on the internet instead of doing something more useful.