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Tenacious Grip (155 D)
11 Jun 13 UTC
Where has the Mediterranean Gone?
If anyone is up for some good ol' medium - stakes med games Hit Me UP
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
09 Jun 13 UTC
gameID=120624 was canceled due to site violations
This live gunboat game was canceled since two people who knew each other played in the same game and they communicated outside of the site, which gave them an unfair advantage. They did not know the rules and now they have been warned. Any further infraction on their part will result in a ban.
Please do not try to determine who they were as this was swiftly dealt with.
Thank you for understanding.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
11 Jun 13 UTC
Defiance is an awesome game too!
So after the attack last night on my laptop, I decided to scrub it and start from scratch (new Sony Vaios have their OS on some firmware) so I completely formatted it and reinstalled using the VAIO key. I thought I'd give Defiance another tyr (an earlier attempt never ran) so I installed it and it ran great! Awesome game play and very immersive graphics. Not a fan of the odd keyboard and mouse, but I will probably remap those to match WoW/STO/other MMOs.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Jun 13 UTC
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krellin (80 DX)
10 Jun 13 UTC
Call Me a Douchebag
Yes, it's time put together 7 fearless foes for a no-holds barred, low-point, non-anon game. Friends and foes welcome. Let's duke it out.

Submit your name and a fantastic bit of verbal abuse for consideration.
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Blackbeard1680 (0 DX)
11 Jun 13 UTC
Fast game!
Hello everybody, I would like to have a live classic match and nobody seems to see it, so I will post it here...
gameID=120804
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Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Jun 13 UTC
Fucking asswipe mod abuse!
I wasn't the next one to post and was trying to get people to stop and yet *I* got docked 20 fucking points! Fucking mods abuaing their fucking power again!!!!!!
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
09 Jun 13 UTC
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So a funny thing happened on the way to work today...
I blacked out for a few minutes and when I came to it turned out I had just gotten engaged. Weird.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
04 Jun 13 UTC
New game
gameID=120097
For people who are in the top 250 in this list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ar7_3gsXAPwtdDVwZEloT3QycWRJc2FvYklrc0Y1X3c&output=html
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erist (228 D(B))
10 Jun 13 UTC
Is it cheating to refuse to draw/cancel?
When your opponents CDs have created a unfair advantage for you?
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
09 Jun 13 UTC
SRGB GAME
To rekindle the lusthog squad, looking for 6 players who are willing to commit NOT voting draw until a stalemate line is reached and formed (read: no movements).
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Gamma (570 D)
10 Jun 13 UTC
World game
Just a new world game that needs more players.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=120626
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HumanWave (337 D)
10 Jun 13 UTC
Question about metagaming: the continuing discussion…
;)
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
09 Jun 13 UTC
"Coalition" voting in the Modern Diplomacy II variant
Has anyone encountered this? Using the "draw" voting button early on in a Modern Diplomacy II game to indicate your interest in forming a coalition to dominate the board? Seems dodgy to me. Not in the spirit of the rules. Thoughts, anyone?
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
09 Jun 13 UTC
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So a funny thing happened on the way to work yesterday...
My significant e-partner (online for the slowpokes) blacked out today, and I took advantage of him. When he came to and I came as well, we had gotten engage. Weird.
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MajorMitchell (1874 D)
08 Jun 13 UTC
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Don't let Draugnar join
"Don't let Draugnar join" is a new game I just created
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krellin (80 DX)
07 Jun 13 UTC
Sea Monsters
http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/nature/post/rov-captures-first-ever-footage-of-oarfish-in-the-wild/
Another example of idiotic reporting. First Ever footage of Deep Sea creature...presumed responsible for spawning myths of sea monsters among ancient mariners.

Can you identify the flaw in the moronic author's comments?
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bzip2 (100 D)
06 Jun 13 UTC
What do you think are the books that everyone should read?
Hello everyone. I am trying to make a summer reading list and was wondering what the webDiplomacy community's favorite books are. Maybe I will get some ideas!
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SpeakerToAliens (147 D(S))
09 Jun 13 UTC
R.I.P. Iain M Banks
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22835047

I really liked his Culture stories. "Excession" was particulary fine.
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cpman (0 DX)
09 Jun 13 UTC
Anyone Up for a VERY LONG Game?
I have a VERY LONG game for any and all who will only be able to check up sporadically next week (like me).
Each phase is 5 days long, and it starts on Monday. The gameID=120582 Enjoy!
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
09 Jun 13 UTC
couch to marathon
I've got the couch part down, and only 20 weeks to make the transition: http://www.columbiagorgemarathon.com/
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Jun 13 UTC
PRISM
Have people been following this? Is it to be expected? Is the media just creating a stir or is this some nefarious government plot?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/7/4406416/president-obama-on-nsa-spying-congress-has-known-about-it-and
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nnfolz (100 D)
09 Jun 13 UTC
Question about metagaming
Is it meta-gaming when a player admits that his alliance with 3 other players wont break because they are real life friends and all 4 of them are literally sitting on the same room?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Jun 13 UTC
Good Takeover Position
Good game, I'm not involved in it but it looks like it has potential...

gameID=119798
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jimgov (219 D(B))
09 Jun 13 UTC
So how did you read the press, Trip?
I'm just wondering how you were able to read the press in a game that does not have public press. Obviously, my comment hit home that you were friends with one of the players involved.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
02 Jun 13 UTC
Turkey
Talk about unrest in Istanbul, Ankara, others.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/fe6cfa9a6d45b0dd43fe513236fe94f5/tumblr_mnqsjpZnHx1qm2tv9o1_1280.jpg
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poko (100 D)
02 Jun 13 UTC
I was hoping for this day to come. But unfortunately PKK sympathizers are using these unrests to provocate, throw stones at policemen and burn cars ...
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
02 Jun 13 UTC
Any time the police are using these against people, you've got a problem on your hands.

http://puu.sh/36YxP.png
largeham (149 D)
02 Jun 13 UTC
Who cares if people are throwing rocks at the police? The police started it anyway by attacking a peaceful protest.
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
02 Jun 13 UTC
Yes, cause meeting violence with more violence should solve the problem!
Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Jun 13 UTC
They put one of yours in the hospital, you put one of theirs in the morgue. That's the Chicago ...er... Turkish way.
I'm interested to see if this develops into anything really political. So far its more protests about abuse of force, but here and there you see slogans and shouts against Erdogan and the AKP.

At the same time, we must remember that this is happening in Istanbul and the major cities along the coast, which have always been strongholds of the CHP, so I wouldn't think there would be many AKP sympathizers there anyways
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
03 Jun 13 UTC
It started off over Gezi. I don't have any clue at all why the government met such a small resistance with insane force like they did. Now it's a huge resistance, and frankly, I don't see it being quelled by backing off. I suspect this'll be long term, and hopefully for the best.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
03 Jun 13 UTC
That's our holiday in Turkey cancelled, off to Majorca to help the Spanish with their 26% unemployment rate, although I had a camera stolen last night I went to Menorca ..... thieving Spaniards, the Armada thing was years ago, get over it !!
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
03 Jun 13 UTC
http://defnesumanblogs.com/2013/06/01/what-is-happenning-in-istanbul/
Invictus (240 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
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My buddy's girlfriend is studying there till the end of the month. Hope this doesn't get too much more out of hand.

But you know, it might. Erdogan has whittled away at Turkey's staunch secularism, and while that seems to have majority support, a hell of a lot of Turks still oppose it. Especially, as has been said, in the western cities along the coasts. Will we see a coup? Unlikely, considering how Erdogan has eviscerated the old guard of the armed forces. But it's apparent that the Turkish people are starting to turn on the guy and how he's ran the country, and the protests are only growing stronger.

At any rate, it's really refreshing to see a protest movement in the Middle East that's unambiguously secular and pro-democracy. Better that people wave a red flag than a black one.
largeham (149 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
But hey, if Americans and Israelis elect fundi Christians/Jews, its fine. However, I am surprised Invictus thinks socialism is better than anarchism.

Anyway, its pretty cool. Bringing Turks and Kurds together. And various ultra fans in Istanbul are uniting.
Tolstoy (1962 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
"Better that people wave a red flag than a black one."

I'm confused. Does Invictus believe that Communism > Anarchism?

The representations being made in the Western media about all this are quite confusing. Apparently, a major bone of contention among protesters is a new prohibition on alcohol in public. Considering that drinking alcohol in public (or even in private on Sundays) is illegal in many US states, does that mean that Turks have more freedom than Americans?
redhouse1938 (429 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
Thanks Thucy for opening this discussion, I follow the situation in Turkey with sincere interest.
I've heard very little to nothing about this until now, but I can tell you how my research on the subject will proceed.

It all starts with the New York Times. Some people think the NYT is "liberal." These people are stupid. They are the same people who think that NPR stands for something other than "Nice Polite Republicans."

The New York Times is pro-establishment. Specifically, pro-US State Department. That is their bias. Turkey is a NATO member. Anything sourced to NYT on this topic comes, essentially, from them.

I see this as an opportunity to maybe convert a Tea Partier or two. Let's show them how shit works.
Timur (673 D(B))
03 Jun 13 UTC
Thanks, Thucy. Not widely broadcast??? Now it will be!!!
Lived there 5 years.
Hereward77 (930 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
There are US states where drinking in private on a Sunday is illegal? Really? That's incredible.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
@Invictus I'm also intrigued by the flag thing.
Invictus (240 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
"However, I am surprised Invictus thinks socialism is better than anarchism."
"I'm confused. Does Invictus believe that Communism > Anarchism?"

I guess you people have never heard of the black flag of jihad. If the choice is between fundamentalist Islam and leftism then call me Comrade Invictus.


"There are US states where drinking in private on a Sunday is illegal? Really? That's incredible."

In no state is it illegal to drink in private on Sunday. Some ban SALES on Sundays. As for drinking in public, it's illegal to walk down the street with an open container of alcohol almost everywhere, but you can always get something to drink at, say, a restaurant. Tolstoy is completely wrong. Shocking, I know.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
I really detest both these banners to the same extent. Why not wave happy flags pleading for secularism and democracy? This is Turkey, that's what they should be doing...
Erdogan has been gradually eroding away the secularist principles of the State, however, with the power he's gained since crushing (perhaps) the military.

Based upon the complaints in the blog bo_sox posted, some of the complaints stem from Erdogan and some stem from the military wishing to remain relevant. Remember, this is a military which overthrew the government every ten years like clockwork until the 80s. So a lot of this bravado with Syria may stem from them moreso than from Erdogan.
anlari (8640 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
There is no role of military in this at all so far. They couldn't be more irrelevant, they even got tear gassed in the military hospital.
anlari (8640 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
It is more that people can't take Erdogan's sultan-like way of ruling things anymore - he micromanages every aspect of life, from what is on the media, to what people drink, whether university students should protest, etc and alienates people who disagree with him by declaring them to be alcoholics, immorals, terrorists, coup plotters, etc. He has no respect for the rule of law, free speech or the right to assembly - there were at least 3 different events during which the police intervened with excessive force and a lot of tear gas just this month, including labour day gatherings, national independence day, etc.
anlari (8640 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
https://medium.com/distilled-friends/85c956c1a8e2
anlari (8640 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
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that's a good link to get informed on - and a personal narrative to give you a taste of what is going on:

First off, thanks everyone who has shown concern, enlisted legal aid, and helped in any other way. Now I’m home and fine. I’d like to write about what I’ve been through. My sole aim is to let everyone know what has happened under police custody, and I honestly have no other agenda. I’ll be writing about everything from the start, including all the insults and the abuses. And in a wholly straightforward manner…


Last night (June 3, 2013) at 9 pm, I was taken under police custody somewhere around the traffic lights on Beşiktaş Barbaros Blvd. I hadn’t been involved in any such action as swearing or rock-throwing. The police grabbed my arm upon their fist sight of me. Some of my friends have seen the manner of my being taken under police custody on television. Then all hell broke loose. On the way to the pier I was beaten by all the police officers along the 100-150 meters up to the Kadıköy ferry pier. Every cop who saw me was quick to deal me a punch or a kick. There was no end to verbal abuse like “Is it you who will save this country, motherf***ers and bastards?” I’d lost count of the people who beat me by the time I reached the custody bus, when a couple of others called out to my captor from behind the bus, and told him to take me there. They started to punch me and kick me behind the bus. I later learned that they’d been hiding me from the cameras while beating me between the bus and a wall. The lights of the custody bus were out when I arrived, but I could hear a girl begging: “I didn’t do anything, brother.” I never saw who they were who were hitting me before or after I got on the bus. All I could do in the dark was cover my head. Verbal abuse didn’t end. I sat down but was being hit by every passer-by, so I stood in a corner. They told me to sit down. “When I do, you all hit me,” I said. They forced me to sit by swearing, smacking and punching. They were hitting and throttling the girl. A plainclothes cop called Süleyman said in these exact words: “I’ll bend you over and f*** you right here.” And her reply was gut-wrenching. She said in a hoarse voice, “all right, brother.” Then, they forced the 3 of us on the bus to yell “I love the Turkish police!” and “I love my country!” Again and again, saying “louder! Louder!” each time. There was no end to verbal abuse and battery. When it seemed to be stopping, they brought another friend of ours. His nose was broken. When I asked him why he didn’t protect his face he said “two of them held me, a third punched me three times on the nose.” They would occasionally bring some others. The next to come was a friend called Mustafa, a student at Bahçeşehir Uni. 20 riot cops had attacked him, and he could barely stand, but they went on smacking and punching him next to the custody bus. When they thought that wasn’t enough, they first hit him on the head with a helmet, and then hit his head on the bus window. They got him on the bus hitting him. They sat him on the floor, his hands cuffed behind him, and his head bleeding. We saw his head was bleeding, and I went to him, and tried to stop the bleeding with a piece of cloth (the bloody t-shirt of the other friend with the broken nose). The cop called Süleyman swore at me and said “f*** off and sit down.” I said, “he is bleeding.” He said, “let him bleed.” He didn’t care. They were keeping him cuffed in the state he was in. We told a couple of cops and one of them finally uncuffed him. The second gut-wrenching incident happened at the police station when we were giving our statements. Mustafa asked me “did they hit me on the bus? What happened?” He did not remember. He had obviously been unconscious on the bus. Lastly, we weren’t able to relieve ourselves on the custody bus. They only gave us a bottle of water. Then, we were taken to hospital for doctor’s reports, and to the police station after that. When we were taken to the police station there were an army of lawyers, and the police started politely requesting us to do things. I’d like to thank the lawyers, our friends who have called the lawyers, and everyone who has become concerned for us. This piece of writing excludes the slightest exaggeration, it contains facts, and facts only, and my only purpose in writing it is to let everyone hear the first-hand account of what has happened.

Revolt against oppression goes on. This fascist regime will end.

Erkan Yolalan
redhouse1938 (429 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
Can the police violence be traced back to Erdogan somehow?
anlari (8640 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
He has absolute power, and he is defending them. Also his party followers are joining in with batons in some places
Hereward77 (930 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
'I honestly have no agenda'
'This piece of writing excludes the slightest exaggeration, it contains facts, and facts only, and my only purpose in writing it is to let everyone hear the first-hand account of what has happened.'

...'Revolt against oppression goes on. This fascist regime will end.'

Consistent. Has this been corroborated?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
03 Jun 13 UTC
"Can the police violence be traced back to Erdogan somehow?"

He admitted an excessive use of force: "There was a mistake in using pepper gas by police forces...I have ordered the Interior Ministry to investigate this. It was excessive."

I don't know if you can directly connect it to him,but it seems more than likely that he had something to do with it based on his past and his comments since the protests started.
taylor4 (261 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
What you may ask is more to the Right than so-called liberalism or "Leftism" in the USA?
And, is the circle of Left and right as in the French Assembly, etc., physical layouts not more accurately indicative of the often equal political positions of authoritarian and radical Left views?

@averageWhiteBoy. NY Times "pro"-US State Dept. ? Really?
NYT Sunday (May 2nd) Review section, Julian Assange of WikiLeaks assails book that holds to the Establishment view held by the State Department, & others, on several fronts: Cuba, Latin American revolutions and ensuing democracy, etc., etc., etc.
Granted, that is the Opinion section.
largeham (149 D)
03 Jun 13 UTC
Terrible story anlari, though maybe I just have a weird sense of humour, but your tale made me smile a little at points ('her reply was gut wrenching').

Anyway, good luck and keep up the fight, solidarity from Australia.

P.S. Around 1000-1500 people turned up at some solidarity event in Melbourne on Sunday.

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redhouse1938 (429 D)
06 Jun 13 UTC
Movie quotes
Post the best here, even though it's been done.
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nnfolz (100 D)
08 Jun 13 UTC
Hawaii glitch?
I've occupied Hawaii for 2 autumn phases and one spring phase and it hasn't changed to my color. I got credit for taking the SC so I was able to build just fine, but no color change.
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krellin (80 DX)
06 Jun 13 UTC
Alt Names....
If you could....if you were so devious and underhanded and inclined to do so...

What would you Alternate Name be???
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
04 Jun 13 UTC
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#FuckDaPoPo
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/04/the-blackwhite-marijuana-arrest-gap-in-nine-charts/

Keeping in mind that if you're black, they'll probably beat the living shit out of you. Post-racial America ftw!
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