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2. Lando
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If we get enough for two games, I'm fine with throwing down everything I have.

SRGB?

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Special Rules?

Where's Split? I've only played him once.

What if the stalemate requires tapping a unit to cut support? That is still a stalemate.

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If it's the same rules as the Lusthog Squad games, then it would be a stalemate only if that unit couldn't be diplaced, and the other side had no other way of breaking the stalemate.

So you consider a game that has coin tosses where neither side can break the line without pure luck to be playable. I'll pass. Coin toss guesses can go on for years and years until one side or the other gets lucky.

What I explained, Draug. If the only way for one side to break a stalemate is with a unit who's support is being cut, how is that a coin toss?

*That's not what I expained...

Oops, I misread you there. Nevermind

1. trip
2. Lando
3. 2WL
4. Fairfax
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I guess before the game starts is might be a good idea to set a limit on how many turns a coin toss situation can go on before drawing. Thanks for bringing that up, Draugnar.

I'll play so long as there is a year limit on coin toss situations and if Lando will have me.

Ill play - low bet please

I'm in if I'm wanted.

Draugnar I have no idea what you are trying to ask. Games are either stalemated or they are not. The idea is that the game must conclude as a draw via a stalemate before players press draw, a formality to end the game.

3 on 3 where one of the defending three can support hold either of the other two and where 2 pf the attacking 3 can each only hit one of the 2 front line defending three such that it can never be more than two on one and if the defender guesses correctly could go on stalemated for years on end. That ceases to be a fun game and is one the mods will draw. So I consider it a stalemate. Do you?

The mods will draw a game that can be won via correct tactics? I would hope not.

They will and have if it is a coin toss and has been going on for some time.

Can you provide an example? This seems farfetched to me and I assume we are likely not on the same page.

Not from my phone in a restaurant.

If all players agree beforehand to not draw until a true stalemate is reached, I doubt the mods will interfere.

Essentially, the situation Draugnar is talking about is not a stalemate, because it can be broken. It's a 50/50, but if played properly the odds will eventually favor one side over the other. Tbh, the chance of it coming into play are so infinitesimal that it shouldn't really even be a concern.

I don't believe this situation truly exists. I believe there are two distinct options that are being lumped together:
1) An incomplete stalemate line that has the ability to be reinforced.
2) An incomplete stalemate where there are not enough units for it to be reinforced.

I believe the first option result in a series of guesses until the stalemate is either achieved or broken. I believe the second option favours the attacker and they will eventually win.

To respond to abgemacht and Draugnar, if the mods will draw a game where a player has an opportunity to win that is very concerning to me. Perhaps jmo or zultar can chime in.

In any event:

1. trip
2. Lando
3. 2WL (pending)
4. Fairfax
5. jimgov
6. ava
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Are we OK with say 75 bets?

75 is good for me.

I believe that abge's statement was specific to this situation. He's saying that for this game where the players have agreed to this particular condition of reaching true stalemate, then the mods will not interfere. This does not imply that the mods would have interfered for other games where the players didn't agree to this condition. We DO NOT INTERVENE unless we have to, and I personally try to err on the side of giving the players the benefit of the doubt.

As far as a pseudo-stalemate is concerned -a situation where one player does have the chance to win, the mods will of course give the player plenty of chances to try (given that the player can show/explain to us how he can win). The mods will not just come in and draw a game willy nilly. As of this point, I am unaware of a game where the mods did force draw a game where it is not a true stalemate. I would have to review the circumstances of that game to verify whether the correct action was taken.

if p then q =/=> if !p then !q

75 is good

@Lando - I'm in a bunch of gunboats right now. Can you please name it something that clues me in that there are no draws prior to an actual stalemate? No Draw, or something like that. MM named his gunboats that he did not want us to finalize "MM No Finalize." Thanks.

If there is still one spot left I'll sign up.

It's yours podium.

Agreed with Zultar's statement. If the rules of a special game say no draws then we will not interfere even in the case of a stalemate. Someone would have to give or the game would continue forever.

In the case of someone tactically being able to win, they would be given every chance to do so.

OK i set up the game but i accidentally made it 36 Is everyone OK with that? my bad.

How dare you! Yeah, it's no big deal to me. The less points ava can potentially take from me the better.

I'm up for another if anyone is game

1. trip

I could play another

I'm too lazy to pencil it out but it'll be funny if it's possible to oscillate between 2 or more different "stalemate" states indefinitely, so you're just moving a piece back and forth forever. Please bet all your points.