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TheFlyingJarate (39 D)
Sat 07 AM UTC
A question on WebDip map variants
Hi. A while back, I happened to spectate a game with a map variant I hadn't seen before. It was, if I recall correctly, a map of the world in 1066... or 841. One or the other. So, my question is, how can I start a game with one of these variants, as the one I saw wasn't on the list of different playable maps.
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HBbuc (88 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Austrian Openings
Whenever I get Austria, I always seem to get destroyed right away, do you guys have any advice on how to play better as Austria?
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Stressedlines (1470 D)
Sun 08 Oct UTC
Anyone here make their own beer/wine?
I have been doing this for many years, and was curious if anyone else did such. It is easily my only hobby I have that I care about..lol
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brainbomb (99 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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Why are bleeding heart liberals struggling at diplomacy?
My ghost rating is around 800. I am going to mass apply anecdotally that all liberals are therefore as abysmal as me at this game.
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Smokey Gem (150 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
The number and word four
Are therre many words that have the same number of letters as the meaning of the word IE Four.
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NManock18 (185 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
Game
Hey, perople should join this hella lit game I'm setting up. It is public: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=208204
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DemonOverlord (559 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
Need replacement
Hey everyone, we need a replacement Germany for this game (4 day phases):
gameID=206645

Please PM me if you're interested in taking over
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Lazy Bones (75 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
Rules query from a new player.
Is Out of Game communication okay in normal diplomacy? If not, what if all members agree that Out of Game communication is okay because the whole group knows each other in real life?
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Verming (266 D)
Wed 11 Oct UTC
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What other online turn based games might I enjoy...
....based on my liking for Diplomacy. Iam looking to expand my range. Nothing massively complex, "live" or requiring Gauntlets of Dexterity, just interesting, challenging turn based games which may run over an extended period. Any suggestions? Cheers all Verming
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leon1122 (154 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
California makes murder a misdemeanor.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/10/10/report-knowingly-exposing-others-to-hiv-will-no-longer-be-felony-in-california.html
peterlund (1320 D (G))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Funny guy this leon. Making reference to that shit site fox news! :)

Who would ever bother to read it?
leon1122 (154 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Here are some sources more to your liking:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/10/09/knowingly-infecting-others-with-hiv-is-no-longer-a-felony-in-california-advocates-say-it-targeted-sex-workers/?hpid=hp_no-name_hp-in-the-news%3Apage%2Fin-the-news

http://www.edition.cnn.com/2017/10/07/health/california-hiv-bill-signed/index.html
peterlund (1320 D (G))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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Much better! Now I will read it. :)
leon1122 (154 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Be sure to take in all the biased opinions.
peterlund (1320 D (G))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
WP: First sentence "California lawmakers have passed legislation to reduce the penalty for those who knowingly or intentionally expose others to HIV without their knowledge, rolling back a law that mostly affected sex workers."

So if I understand this correctly. A male or female whore in California is not any longer obliged to inform their customers that they are infected by HIV? Was it a felony before even if condoms was a requirement stated by the "sex worker" he his/her customer?
peterlund (1320 D (G))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
... TO his/her customer?
Tom Bombadil (1363 D (G))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
This is an interesting topic - I feel like I'm caught in the middle because I can see both sides. I'll save my conversation though for someone who doesn't lead the argument by saying that "California makes murder a misdemeanor" You will have a good career in media if you keep it up!
leon1122 (154 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
It absolutely is murder. To knowingly spread HIV is like putting poison in someone's food.
Tom Bombadil (1363 D (G))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Well, the argument is that currently the law is being almost exclusively to charge sex workers with felonies if they test positive regardless of whether or not the committed a sexual act and spread HIV.

Do I think this is a solution, no - not really.
Tom Bombadil (1363 D (G))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
And not to get too far down the semantics of your clickbait title (since I think this is a genuinelly interesting topic), it almost certainly is not murder. HIV is not always fatal. Also, if I spread HIV to someone else and they get killed in a car accident the next day, I didn't murder them did I? Did I inflict damage greater than a misdemeanor crime - probably.
peterlund (1320 D (G))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
If someone chooses to use the services of a "sex worker", this person should obviously always insist on using condoms. Otherwise we could of course just nominate this guy as a strong candidate for the Darwin Awards trophy!!
Jeff Kuta (2081 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
"Knowingly"

I'm gonna guess the same people who argue that campus sexual assault is not prevalent do to the ambiguity of "consent" are the same ones who want to see "knowingly" prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

This is a tough one though, but I don't think that it's all about sex workers. It's also about homosexuals. Many populations at high risk of contracting HIV *refuse* to get regular testing done. Ignorance is bliss and plausible deniability is a good alibi.

Lowering the criminal penalty encourages high risk populations to get tested and will hopefully make this public health crisis more manageable.
JamesYanik (208 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
the thing is... only like 24 states have laws pertaining to HIV. I think California is taking a step backwards here but other states aren't even addressing it.

i think the reason is since now AIDS are more treatable, so it's like if you infect someone with a common cold: no jail there.

once we have a definitive cure for AIDS, we need more change to the law.
leon1122 (154 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
That's not true. Most people with HIV do get tested because they can't get treatment without being tested.

Tom, if you poison someone and he dies in a car accident later, you still poisoned that person. You can't just get away with that with a slap on the wrist. HIV completely changes someone's lifestyle even if they don't die directly from it, and the best treatment can cost a fortune. It should certainly be a felony.
Tom Bombadil (1363 D (G))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
@Jeff - It is interesting to wonder if this causes people to not get tested for HIV. I think that may be a stretch but have no idea

@leon - "Most people with HIV do get tested because they can't get treatment without being tested."

I think the idea is to get tested earlier so that you don't worry about transmitting the disease. Like what Jeff is saying is that if I had unprotected sex with a few different people, I would avoid taking an HIV test so that I could continue to have unprotected sex without getting tested so that I didn't have to worry about a felony.

Also, I don't disagree that it should be a felony. I'm not sure what to think - I just am pointing out that equating it to murder is incorrect.
leon1122 (154 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
I still fail to see what you said that doesn't make it murder.
leon1122 (154 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
What good is it to get people to test for HIV if there is little incentive against them spreading it anyways.
Tom Bombadil (1363 D (G))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Murder requires the person to die. If I were to contract HIV today, I would expect to live 40 more years. So not quite murder.

Do you think more people knowingly spread HIV or unintentionally spread HIV?
leon1122 (154 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
That's with treatment. You can live if someone poisons you and you take an antidote as well, but that doesn't make the person who poisoned you innocent of attempted murder. Likewise, if you don't receive treatment for HIV (possibly because you don't know you have it, possibly because you can't afford it, possibly because you just don't want treatment), you'll die within a few years. Even 40 years after contraction would be a significantly reduced lifespan. If you transmit HIV to a 25 year old and he/she dies at 65, that is no different than murdering that person at 65 (except it makes the victim endure a life of living with HIV).

I think more people unintentionally spread HIV, and that should be a misdemeanor to encourage people to get tested. Instead, California made intentional murder a misdemeanor.
pangloss (208 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
A lot of the information that would calm down your hysteria is right there in the Washington Post article.

“These laws are so draconian that you can be convicted of a felony and sent to state prison even if you engage in behavior [sic] that creates zero risk of HIV infection.”

"Statistics showed that the charge was disproportionately levied against women and minorities: 67 percent of the people who came into contact with law enforcement because of HIV-related laws were black or Latino, the Williams Institute studies showed. Women made up 43 percent, though they represent only 13 percent of the HIV-positive population in the state."

"HIV exposure laws do little to influence behavior [sic], and said that many “run counter to scientific evidence about routes of HIV transmission and effective measures of HIV prevention.”"

So, the previous laws were overly broad in addressing the impugned behaviour, they were disproportionately used against women and minorities, and they fail to take into account the most recent science on HIV transmission and prevention.

Also, I'll add that just having sex with someone with HIV is not a guarantee that you will get HIV, and HIV is not a guarantee that you will die of complications related to AIDS. This isn't the same thing as putting poison into someone's food.
TrPrado (372 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
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Knowingly putting someone at risk of contracting a disease that destroys their immune system without both parties consenting to that risk should absolutely be a crime. The laws may be over broad, sure, but they’re not things that should simply be scaled back in repercussion. They should be modernized by updating language. Also affecting sex workers disproportionately because they’re forced to undergo checkups doesn’t mean that that law is the problem. It being a black market and thus unregulated in its entirety is a lot of the problem.
leon1122 (154 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
Those are all the author's own shitty opinions. It's why I don't use biased liberal media sources. I only provided them to convince peterlund that the.law was actually passed.

The law would not have imprisoned people with zero risk of spreading HIV because it only applies to people who actually successfully spread HIV. If you have 0 risk of spreading HIV and end up spreading it, then all the talk of zero risk is bullshit.

The discrimination is also bullshit. If anything, California discriminates toward women and minorities. The proportions you gave are the result of more women being prostitutes (thus spreading HIV) and more minorities having HIV and/or being more promiscuous.

If you don't transmit HIV, you won't be prosecuted. Getting HIV means you have to spend a shit ton of money on treatment, and it still shortens your lifespan significantly. See my response to Tom above.
leon1122 (154 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
^That was to pangloss.
Smokey Gem (150 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
Err HIV is no longer a death sentence it is actuualy curable and treatable. Fairly recent medical advances this year or late last year I belive.

So repealing a law for a non- crime is a good thing I think.

So its a crime to transmit Hepatitis all forms , show about herpies , even influenza, going to work with a cold knowing there are asthma suffers in the work place.

The laws were a knee jerk legal reation to a pandemic that nearly ended mankind.

Ohhh thats right it didnt..
Jeff Kuta (2081 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
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Knowingly infecting someone with an incurable disease needs to be criminalized. Even if it is not a death sentence, it permanently, negatively and non-consensually affects someone's quality of life until they die.
leon1122 (154 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
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That's some misinformation you're listening to. Liberals really will be the end of humanity. There is no cure for HIV, only treatment, and the treatment is expensive and harmful to the body.
Stressedlines (1470 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
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smokey, you got a link for HIV being curable now? In a paper written out of UCLA in June 2017, they report "still no known cure".

Where did you find that info at?


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Yoyoyozo (619 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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BOSOX PIZZA TOURNAMENT
Hello I am starting a another 1v1 tournament. It will be FvA. Each person plays until they lose. Winner gets to keep continuing. Loser buys bo a pizza. If you win 10 times in a row, bo will send you a slice of pizza
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captainmeme (295 D Mod)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
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A beautiful sight
https://i.imgur.com/Pr1QI4K.png
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leon1122 (154 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Swedish dentist loses job, sued by government...
for reporting migrant age fraud to Swedish Migration Board

http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/report-adult-migrants-posing-as-kids-lose-your-job/
I apologize in advance for the source, but it's the only English-language website reporting on it. MSM obviously won't pick this story up.
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JamesYanik (208 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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One impeachment please
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/918267396493922304

https://puu.sh/xVUOc/1ff0fa91d4.png
in case he deletes it
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Valis2501 (3551 D (G))
Wed 11 Oct UTC
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I forgot that you should never play live gunboats on the site
my bad. They're still riddled with NMRs and CDs and no players or defaults that set an RR. My time away caused me to forget and for that I apologize.
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Condescension (343 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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Why are conservatives so bad at Diplomacy?
Is it the lack of intelligence? Ego over practicality? Naive self-interest? Inability to understand other perspectives? Poor social skills? Or some other factors?
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Yoyoyozo (619 D)
Fri 06 Oct UTC
Yoyoyozo's Open Gunboat Series
Hey I want to play some games but don't have the time for press. Therefore, I'm starting a gunboat series.
Sign up below:
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CommanderByron (699 D (S))
Tue 03 Oct UTC
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On-going Tournament Series
I am interested in GMing an ongoing (for fun) tournament series based on the class system of fighting sports. Is anyone interested?
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Valis2501 (3551 D (G))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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Advertise Live Games Here
Please use this thread, and this thread only to advertise for upcoming live games. That way, it's easier to find people for new live games, without flooding the forum with threads.
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JamesYanik (208 D)
Tue 10 Oct UTC
STAR WARS TRAILER THREADDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihY
YES SOMETHING BESIDES POLITICS
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
Mon 09 Oct UTC
How to protest the right way?
Can someone please enlighten me?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mike-pence-nfl-walkout-publicity-stunt-denies-vice-president-us-kneeling-protests-a7990436.html

Apparently being peaceful isn't ok. But exiting a stadium early as a sign of your rejection of the protest is an acceptable protest.
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RagingIke297 (147 D)
Wed 11 Oct UTC
Headed to downtown Chicago for a bar game
This will be my first face to face game since I moved from Ohio to Illinois in May, game starts in about 2 hours!
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leon1122 (154 D)
Wed 11 Oct UTC
Feature Request
In FTF Diplomacy, players can see who other players are talking to. I would like a feature that shows who each country has spoken to during a given phase to reflect this. This feature could be turned on or off.
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CAPT Brad (1847 D (B))
Wed 11 Oct UTC
Advertise Your Live Games Here
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Smokey Gem (150 D)
Tue 10 Oct UTC
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Mental Health week.
Hi all it is World Mnetal Health week.
Take some time out to work on your Mnetal health or check in on someone who you might think is not travelling so well.

Im going for a Nature Bath..( Hipster for Bush Walk ) costs $250 in SW West Aus or free if you live in the countyr like me..
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JamesYanik (208 D)
Sun 08 Oct UTC
Damnit Sweden
https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/hundratals-svenskar-akte-till-kriget-for-att-slass-for-is--sa-lever-atervandarn/

use google chrome to translate... there are some American websites picking up on this too. Sweden giving protection for ISIS fighters as a gist.
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HBbuc (88 D)
Wed 11 Oct UTC
World Diplomacy Game
Join this World Diplomacy Game! Unrated so there is nothing to lose(or gain)! Just join to have fun!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=208056
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dargorygel (345 D Mod (G))
Mon 09 Oct UTC
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Eleven Letter Word Game
You know the drill... you can only change one letter to make a new word.
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Tom Bombadil (1363 D (G))
Mon 02 Oct UTC
New Standard Game
Semi-anon.
48hr phases, WTA, HDV, 143pt bet
Post inside if you are interested
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MajorMitchell (1046 D)
Sun 08 Oct UTC
Two great car races in Australia
Today the "Touring cars" have the Bathurst 1000 km race, and the 3000km Solar Challenge race from Darwin to Adelaide starts. Good luck to the University of Michigan team & all teams.
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