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TheFlyingJarate (39 D)
Sat 07 AM UTC
A question on WebDip map variants
Hi. A while back, I happened to spectate a game with a map variant I hadn't seen before. It was, if I recall correctly, a map of the world in 1066... or 841. One or the other. So, my question is, how can I start a game with one of these variants, as the one I saw wasn't on the list of different playable maps.
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HBbuc (88 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Austrian Openings
Whenever I get Austria, I always seem to get destroyed right away, do you guys have any advice on how to play better as Austria?
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Stressedlines (1470 D)
Sun 08 Oct UTC
Anyone here make their own beer/wine?
I have been doing this for many years, and was curious if anyone else did such. It is easily my only hobby I have that I care about..lol
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brainbomb (99 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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Why are bleeding heart liberals struggling at diplomacy?
My ghost rating is around 800. I am going to mass apply anecdotally that all liberals are therefore as abysmal as me at this game.
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Smokey Gem (150 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
The number and word four
Are therre many words that have the same number of letters as the meaning of the word IE Four.
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NManock18 (185 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
Game
Hey, perople should join this hella lit game I'm setting up. It is public: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=208204
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DemonOverlord (559 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
Need replacement
Hey everyone, we need a replacement Germany for this game (4 day phases):
gameID=206645

Please PM me if you're interested in taking over
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Lazy Bones (75 D)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
Rules query from a new player.
Is Out of Game communication okay in normal diplomacy? If not, what if all members agree that Out of Game communication is okay because the whole group knows each other in real life?
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Verming (266 D)
Wed 11 Oct UTC
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What other online turn based games might I enjoy...
....based on my liking for Diplomacy. Iam looking to expand my range. Nothing massively complex, "live" or requiring Gauntlets of Dexterity, just interesting, challenging turn based games which may run over an extended period. Any suggestions? Cheers all Verming
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leon1122 (154 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
California makes murder a misdemeanor.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/10/10/report-knowingly-exposing-others-to-hiv-will-no-longer-be-felony-in-california.html
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Yoyoyozo (619 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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BOSOX PIZZA TOURNAMENT
Hello I am starting a another 1v1 tournament. It will be FvA. Each person plays until they lose. Winner gets to keep continuing. Loser buys bo a pizza. If you win 10 times in a row, bo will send you a slice of pizza
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captainmeme (295 D Mod)
Fri 13 Oct UTC
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A beautiful sight
https://i.imgur.com/Pr1QI4K.png
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leon1122 (154 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Swedish dentist loses job, sued by government...
for reporting migrant age fraud to Swedish Migration Board

http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/report-adult-migrants-posing-as-kids-lose-your-job/
I apologize in advance for the source, but it's the only English-language website reporting on it. MSM obviously won't pick this story up.
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JamesYanik (208 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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One impeachment please
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/918267396493922304

https://puu.sh/xVUOc/1ff0fa91d4.png
in case he deletes it
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TrPrado (372 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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Jeff Kuta (2081 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Who needs impeachment when we've got the 25th Amendment?

Bannon even warned Trump that the 25th could be his downfall.
President Eden (2993 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
I'm clearly not talking about Yanik, ghug. Don't be obtuse.
Jeff Kuta (2081 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
"Sufficient resources" meaning whoever can commandeer all the bandwidth wins. This will help the little guy. Not.
Zach0805 (85 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Is he wrong? No. Should licenses be removed? No.

The people will decide based on viewership and considering Fox has been on top for about a year we can see what’s going on.
ghug (5 D (B))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Enlighten me then, Eden.
President Eden (2993 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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There is a considerable portion of left-wing political participants in the US that have more or less committed themselves to taking the opposite position of Trump's on virtually every issue. These are your "punch a Nazi" types who like to protest and threaten violence on college campuses in order to get speaking events by conservative speakers on campus cancelled due to "safety concerns," who clearly have no respect for the spirit of the First Amendment's protection of free expression (if they can be said, technically, not to oppose the letter of that protection). If Trump's tweet appears in opposition to the spirit of the First Amendment (which I think is a very fair accusation), then I expect these types to begin an inspired defense of the First Amendment in reaction to a perceived opportunity to fight right-wing authoritarians. Such a defense would be a boon to discourse in this country as long as these types can somehow find a way to remain principled in that defense long enough to listen to what the other side is saying and have a conversation with them.
ghug (5 D (B))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
So you're just trying to find a straw man when there are real people with opposing opinions to argue with. Cool.

There are violent protestors on both sides. There are a lot more on Trump's, so I already confident you're arguing in bad faith, which is heavily disappointing to me as someone who remembers you getting worth discussing with.

Beyond that, protesting and condemning shitty racist opinions is in no way contrary to the first amendment. What you fail to recognize (and I'm sure that this isn't true universally, but it is true with most) is that someone can listen to the opinions of someone like Milo or Richard Spencer and decide "this person isn't worth mine or anyone else's time, and their being given a platform is only harmful". Some people's opinions are so immediately and obviously indefensible as to not be worth being heard as "the other side". Others' aren't, and are worth listening to. Propping the former up and defending them only does a disservice to the latter.

I think it's also worth noting that painting "the left" with this broad brush of irrational fools who won't listen accomplishes exactly the same thing as you're accusing them of doing.
JamesYanik (208 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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@ghug

"There are violent protestors on both sides. There are a lot more on Trump's, so I already confident you're arguing in bad faith, which is heavily disappointing to me as someone who remembers you getting worth discussing with."

i'm going to need a citation for the MORE violent Trump supporters. I haven't heard of many left-wing speakers being shut down to violence when right wing protestors make threats against their life.

Trump rallies were violent only when protestors were there, so that's a difficult and subjective measure.

Antifa meanwhile have been very violent, although there has been a lot of violence on the right. I'm wondering what evidence you have to support the claim that the left has been less violent than the right.



"Beyond that, protesting and condemning shitty racist opinions is in no way contrary to the first amendment."

So conservative commentators like Ben Shapiro, Jewish and VERY anti-white supremacist (#1 target of anti-semitism in 2016 according to the ADL) gets some of his talks cancelled due to threats on a public university campus... that's considered good for the 1st amendment? And for him specifically needing to pay tens of thousands of Dollars to Berkley most recently for the Police to make sure protests didn't turn violent, THAT isn't contrary to the 1st amendment?

you can protest what someone has to say, but when you threaten and incite violence, you are then infringing upon their rights.



"What you fail to recognize (and I'm sure that this isn't true universally, but it is true with most)"

citation needed. You have none? well as Hitchens said, 'claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence' (a slight paraphrasing i believe)



"is that someone can listen to the opinions of someone like Milo or Richard Spencer and decide "this person isn't worth mine or anyone else's time, and their being given a platform is only harmful"."

sorry but that's not how the 1st amendment works bud. also, you're not GIVING them a platform, EVERYONE is allowed to exercise their first amendment rights to free speech, regardless of how much one personally hates it. the idea of "not giving them a platform" is fine if a university doesn't want to book a speech, but when a university does book a speech, and protestors turn violent: you're not "not giving them a platform," you're attacking them (using violence) for them already having a platform.



"Some people's opinions are so immediately and obviously indefensible as to not be worth being heard as "the other side". Others' aren't, and are worth listening to. Propping the former up and defending them only does a disservice to the latter." "

and who, pray tell, gets to decide which opinions are indefensible and which aren't? What you might find indefensible might be VERY different from what some college kid finds indefensible. I point out the mere statistical fact that blacks in this country are likely to per capita commit a higher number of crimes, and @brainbomb had an aneurism it seemed.

the REASON the founders allowed for freedom of speech, was so that the UNPOPULAR opinions could be told. the speech nobody opposes doesn't NEED legal protection, since it is entirely unopposed!

i've heard the "it's indefensible" argument before, but the point of free speech isn't to resort to violence when something "indefensible" is said: it means that the opposition must logically, soundly and intellectually dismantle the "indefensible" arguments. Violent censorship of any idea is bad. Perhaps even worse: it's lazy. It helps perpetuate the echo chambers. People scream "punch a nazi" en masse... truly believing that the majority of Trump's base are Nazis. we're not a country that allowed mob rule to determine what is and what is not indefensible. I don't like white supremacism, but i'll debate one and dismantle their arguments: it's more effective (and legal) than punching them.



"I think it's also worth noting that painting "the left" with this broad brush of irrational fools who won't listen accomplishes exactly the same thing as you're accusing them of doing."

In an ironic turn of events... you've been generalizing yourself. but i agree. precision is better, although @PresidentEden is referring to the Left as a fixed core ideology.

now, we can discuss the extent people subscribe to Eden's definition of the left, although he would *not* be generalizing by referring to "the left" if this is in fact what he is doing.
ghug (5 D (B))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
James I'm sleepy can you say less dumb shit thanks
ghug (5 D (B))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Like seriously where do you see me condoning violence
JamesYanik (208 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
@ghug

obviously your reading comprehension drops when you're tired.

you said that "and their being given a platform is only harmful"

i'm making the point that freedom of speech necessitates people to be allowed to speak... freely. so if someone has a platform (or a rally) you are not allowed to take AWAY the platform.

not providing one in the first place: personal preference
violenting protesting one: no-no
orathaic (1009 D (B))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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@"in case you're wondering how this differs from the NFL, it's addressed like a statement of an intent, and it doesn't use a hypothetical of him being an owner, and then firing players" - i still see it a part of a pattern of behaviour.

You are right that this is worse; but it continues what he has already started to make acceptable, at least in the minds of his followers.
Verming (266 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
I am English and so have no particular dog in this fight. My pennyworth however is that although BO looked the part and spoke very well indeed he was pretty crap. DT although presentationally less impressive does not generally seem any crappier than his predecessor. You have not had an impressive president since the Elder Bush. Pip pip!
President Eden (2993 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
"There are violent protestors on both sides. There are a lot more on Trump's, so I already confident you're arguing in bad faith, which is heavily disappointing to me as someone who remembers you getting worth discussing with."

Reconsider your approach to arguments you don't like, then.

In response to my initial tongue-in-cheek comment about leftists' newfound support for the First Amendment, you decided that I was referring to JamesYanik as a leftist. This is obviously preposterous, as I've had multiple conversations with James recently, and it's very clear to anyone who reads anything James has to say that he is an intelligent and well-sourced right-wing or right-leaning individual. You had two choices on how to interpret this -- I was calling an obvious right-wing/right-leaning individual a leftist, or I was referring to someone/some group besides the OP -- and instead of choosing the on-its-face much more likely to be correct option, you chose the obviously incorrect one to make fun of my comment.

Then here, in response to me claiming that there is a subgroup of leftists who are violent in their protests and clearly have no respect for the spirit of the First Amendment, you decide that I must be arguing in bad faith because it's obvious to you that most of the violent protesters are right-wingers. You again had two options -- you could assume I sincerely disagree with your proposition that most of the violent protesters are right-wing and am arguing from that basis, or you could assume that I believe most of the protesters are right-wing and am choosing to argue in bad faith anyway.

Notice that both times *you* make the decision to interpret my comments in an inaccurate way. Then you wonder why it is that I'm arguing in bad faith and wax poetic about how much of a shame it is that I am. Maybe instead you're just not making smart decisions about how to interpret text with which you disagree, which is distorting your outlook of the people writing it?
ghug (5 D (B))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
You assume I'm aware you've been talking to James. Given the context of only this thread, it was perfectly reasonable to assume that you hadn't interacted before and were simply responding to the OP. You call him intelligent, so you clearly haven't interacted with him all that much.

As for the second point, given past interactions, I find it more likely that you're aware of Charlottesville and of the fact that many of the university protests you refer to end in violence from both sides. Painting the let's violent reactions to nazis as the lone violence in this situation is most certainly arguing in bad faith, even if you do truly hold the barely defensible opinion that the white supremacists are somehow less guilty in all of this.

As for the rest- oh, there isn't any. It seems you'd rather whine about how I'm presenting my argument than actually respond to it. Sad.
damian (551 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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I don't think protesting a speaker being given a platform is necessarily antithetical to the concept of free speech. However, I do think that the strong desire to deny people a platform is symptomatic of the increased polarization of society and an inability for dialogue between the two sides.

Ultimately however, I think there are some ideas too vile for me to engage in a dialogue with their holders. So I ted myself sympathetic to anti-fa, even while I don't agree with their means. At least when they are opposing self-identified fascists. It becomes hairy otherwise because while I cannot comprehend how nonfacists are willing to rally with self described new nazis. I do think there is a possibility for real dialogue between the left and the right.
VillageIdiot (4321 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Country leaders these days are the worst, am i right? Listen to this, Justin Trudeau forgot to mention Alberta in his Canada Day speech!

#impeachthepm
ghug (5 D (B))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Are you even allowed to impeach yours? I thought he was appointed by the queen.
VillageIdiot (4321 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Parliament says ‘meh’ at a louder then speaking voice and we go vote again, none of this getting stuck with a lemon for 4 years or tossing out a perfectly fine leader after 8 years nonsense.

The Queen oversees the annual NHL draft and appoints the Minister of Canoes, eh!
ND (680 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
@James: Um, where is the policy, law, executive order, etc where Trump orders a suppression of Fake News NBC or CNN? Also, where was your concern when Obama made similar comments in regards to Talk Radio? Politicians get frustrated and pissed off at the other side, but to my knowledge no executive order has been drafted to suppress the news (fake or not).

@Condescension: A nonsensical and ridiculous reply from you as to be expected.

@Damian: Um, the birth certificate thing was started by Hillary Clinton during the 08 Democratic Primary. There were some *PRIVATE* investigations into it, i.e., read: not government. Private persons and investigators can look into anything at their leisure. Or are you stating that private persons do not have a right to the 1st Amendment or to pursue a private investigation?

@Bladerunners: I take offense to that comment. I won’t say anything demeaning to you, but honestly going around saying that everyone on the right side of the political spectrum is hate filled is biased as f***. The only hate I see in this thread is directed towards the POTUS for no good reason.
damian (551 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
Not at all ND, it isn’t a free speech issue. That was a reply to your assertion that there were no calls for impeachment when Barack Obama was president.
JamesYanik (208 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
@ND

1. There's isn't one, i'm saying he's walking a tight line. check my first few posts.

2. I complained A LOT about Obama. But he's not in office now
President Eden (2993 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
"You assume I'm aware you've been talking to James. Given the context of only this thread, it was perfectly reasonable to assume that you hadn't interacted before and were simply responding to the OP. You call him intelligent, so you clearly haven't interacted with him all that much."

Ever considered why it is that you have to make assumptions about my posts?
Even in responding to the OP, which presents a tweet from the President which thousands or perhaps millions of Americans will respond to, there is no reason for you to assume I'm specifically talking about JY.

"As for the second point, given past interactions, I find it more likely that you're aware of Charlottesville"

Correct, a good case study of political violence on both sides.

"and of the fact that many of the university protests you refer to end in violence from both sides."

I don't know about many. Some certainly do, but I believe it to be a minority.

"Painting the let's violent reactions to nazis as the lone violence in this situation is most certainly arguing in bad faith,"

I did not do this. Why do you keep putting words in my mouth?

"even if you do truly hold the barely defensible opinion that the white supremacists are somehow less guilty in all of this."

None of the relative guilt of either side is relevant at all to what I said. I didn't even say anything ABOUT white supremacists. What the fuck are you reading???

"As for the rest- oh, there isn't any. It seems you'd rather whine about how I'm presenting my argument than actually respond to it. Sad."

There is nothing to respond to! You misinterpret what I say, argue in bad faith about it, accuse me of arguing in bad faith, and then throw in a passive-aggressive dig about how you "remembers [me] getting worth discussing with" and can't bring yourself to acknowledge that you misinterpreted anything even after it's been plainly shown that you have. When you fuck up in a conversation and ruin it, and you also can't be bothered to even acknowledge your fuck up, let alone try to do anything constructive about it, no, there's not much of a conversation to be had!
JamesYanik (208 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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@ghug

you have made a claim that Trump's side is more violent than the Left.

you have provided no evidence.

you may be right, i may be crazy, but it just may be a lunatic... wait, i mean you may be right but you're not actually providing EVIDENCE. all you're doing is providing anecdotes with unsourced and unsubstantiated generalizations


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Valis2501 (3551 D (G))
Wed 11 Oct UTC
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I forgot that you should never play live gunboats on the site
my bad. They're still riddled with NMRs and CDs and no players or defaults that set an RR. My time away caused me to forget and for that I apologize.
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Condescension (343 D)
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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Why are conservatives so bad at Diplomacy?
Is it the lack of intelligence? Ego over practicality? Naive self-interest? Inability to understand other perspectives? Poor social skills? Or some other factors?
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Yoyoyozo (619 D)
Fri 06 Oct UTC
Yoyoyozo's Open Gunboat Series
Hey I want to play some games but don't have the time for press. Therefore, I'm starting a gunboat series.
Sign up below:
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CommanderByron (699 D (S))
Tue 03 Oct UTC
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On-going Tournament Series
I am interested in GMing an ongoing (for fun) tournament series based on the class system of fighting sports. Is anyone interested?
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Valis2501 (3551 D (G))
Thu 12 Oct UTC
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Advertise Live Games Here
Please use this thread, and this thread only to advertise for upcoming live games. That way, it's easier to find people for new live games, without flooding the forum with threads.
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JamesYanik (208 D)
Tue 10 Oct UTC
STAR WARS TRAILER THREADDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihY
YES SOMETHING BESIDES POLITICS
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
Mon 09 Oct UTC
How to protest the right way?
Can someone please enlighten me?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mike-pence-nfl-walkout-publicity-stunt-denies-vice-president-us-kneeling-protests-a7990436.html

Apparently being peaceful isn't ok. But exiting a stadium early as a sign of your rejection of the protest is an acceptable protest.
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RagingIke297 (147 D)
Wed 11 Oct UTC
Headed to downtown Chicago for a bar game
This will be my first face to face game since I moved from Ohio to Illinois in May, game starts in about 2 hours!
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leon1122 (154 D)
Wed 11 Oct UTC
Feature Request
In FTF Diplomacy, players can see who other players are talking to. I would like a feature that shows who each country has spoken to during a given phase to reflect this. This feature could be turned on or off.
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CAPT Brad (1847 D (B))
Wed 11 Oct UTC
Advertise Your Live Games Here
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Smokey Gem (150 D)
Tue 10 Oct UTC
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Mental Health week.
Hi all it is World Mnetal Health week.
Take some time out to work on your Mnetal health or check in on someone who you might think is not travelling so well.

Im going for a Nature Bath..( Hipster for Bush Walk ) costs $250 in SW West Aus or free if you live in the countyr like me..
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JamesYanik (208 D)
Sun 08 Oct UTC
Damnit Sweden
https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/hundratals-svenskar-akte-till-kriget-for-att-slass-for-is--sa-lever-atervandarn/

use google chrome to translate... there are some American websites picking up on this too. Sweden giving protection for ISIS fighters as a gist.
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HBbuc (88 D)
Wed 11 Oct UTC
World Diplomacy Game
Join this World Diplomacy Game! Unrated so there is nothing to lose(or gain)! Just join to have fun!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=208056
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dargorygel (345 D Mod (G))
Mon 09 Oct UTC
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Eleven Letter Word Game
You know the drill... you can only change one letter to make a new word.
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Tom Bombadil (1363 D (G))
Mon 02 Oct UTC
New Standard Game
Semi-anon.
48hr phases, WTA, HDV, 143pt bet
Post inside if you are interested
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MajorMitchell (1046 D)
Sun 08 Oct UTC
Two great car races in Australia
Today the "Touring cars" have the Bathurst 1000 km race, and the 3000km Solar Challenge race from Darwin to Adelaide starts. Good luck to the University of Michigan team & all teams.
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