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dubmdell (556 D)
02 Apr 13 UTC
The Walking Dead Season 3
Spoilers ahead. What were your thoughts on the season and the finale?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Apr 13 UTC
What happened to the icon indicating a thread I have participated in?
I look down the list and see plenty I know I posted in, but no icon.
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yebellz (729 D(G))
01 Apr 13 UTC
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WebDiplomacy will close temporarily in one month
Details inside
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Gumers (607 D)
02 Apr 13 UTC
UNPAUSE
Would you mods unpause this game? http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=111988.
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RezDragon (100 D)
02 Apr 13 UTC
Game crashed
Our game has crashed. What should we do?
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Unpause
I need a game unpaused:
gameID=112307
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2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
02 Apr 13 UTC
Anyone else here?
I think I see a tumbleweed in "new games."

Thanks for finally coming back online!
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
02 Apr 13 UTC
Invictus or krellin
Who is the better debater? Discuss...
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krellin (80 DX)
01 Apr 13 UTC
Ice @ the Poles
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21991487

Fact's Gettin' in the way of Belief...read on below:
krellin (80 DX)
01 Apr 13 UTC
An Inconvenient Truth:

Climate scientists have been intrigued by observations that Antarctic sea ice shows a small but statistically significant expansion of about 1.9% per decade since 1985, while sea ice in the Arctic has been shrinking over past decades.

Another case of: "We'll never let a fact get in the way of our beliefs!!"

Ask any Global Warming zombie, "Are the polar ice caps melting" and his reply: A loud and shrieking "YES!! We're destroying the planet..."

What he fails to realize is that he's been DUPED! He's been LIED TO with cherry-picked data from the Global Warming crowd....

Yes, folks, sad but true, you've been lied to. While SOME ice shelves are shrinking...*others are growing"...

Damn...Hate when facts get in the way of beliefs...
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
01 Apr 13 UTC
Did you even read the whole article? The authors give several plausible explanations for the phenomenon.

Bohonk (1918 D)
01 Apr 13 UTC
But in this article they say that it is global climate change which caused the ice cap expansion sooo that doesn't really help your point that climate change isn't real.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
01 Apr 13 UTC
The rise in sea levels at the Poles is a crime ..... I demand just ice
krellin (80 DX)
01 Apr 13 UTC
Yes, I read the plausible explanation.

Have you been operating under the belief that all the ice caps are melting?

Do they have *evidence* to support their claim...or just another bullshit theory??

I have evidence that says global warming has *stopped* over the last 20 years...which would explain growing ice...

It's funny, if a person that does not believe in man-made global warming has "a theory", you will all scream and kick like babies that without facts, their words are useless.

Let a global warming advocate have a theory to explain the fact that real-world behavior is *again* acting contrary to their expectation...and suddenly theories are as good as proven fact....

I call hypocrisy...

krellin (80 DX)
01 Apr 13 UTC
I'm really just here to rub it in the faces of the *uneducated believers* that probably just prior to this thread were operating under the 100% certain belief that *all* ice shelves were melting.

I'm here to point out your uneducated belief was wrong...that you've been *lied* to.

I'm curious as to how many of you are brave enough to admit that this information is *new* to you, and that it is contrary to your belief? Anyone brave enough?
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
01 Apr 13 UTC
Troll patrol to base camp, we have a red alert !!
krellin (80 DX)
01 Apr 13 UTC
Nigee -- You wouldn't want to, you know...have a topically relevanent comment, would you?

You didn't read either the OP or the link, no doubt...but the good lefties will always come out to throw their insults.

Typical.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
01 Apr 13 UTC
The only good leftie is a dead leftie, you know that ......
krellin (80 DX)
01 Apr 13 UTC
From the linked paper: "This ice expansion has previously been attributed to dynamical atmospheric changes that induce atmospheric cooling"

We used to think it was the cold air that caused the ice to form...but we can't admit the air gets cold and causes ice to form, because it contrasts with our belief...so we came up with this other bullshit *theory* that the mindless monkeys will believe...
krellin (80 DX)
01 Apr 13 UTC
The only good leftie is an *educated* leftie...because then he generally stops being a leftie...

Feel free to read a little and educate yourself...
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
01 Apr 13 UTC
Stop being so moderate, people will think you've disarmed yourself and gone gay, I mean Democrat ...... same thing anyways
jimgov (219 D(B))
01 Apr 13 UTC
@krellin - I read the article. I am more educated now. I am still a lefty.
Bohonk (1918 D)
01 Apr 13 UTC
Who this "you, you, you" you are always refering to krellin? I think you've got some severely biased BELIEFS yourself. And what are your facts that show global climate change has stopped over the last 2 decades. And btw it's not just global warming, it's global climate change. No one is calling it global warming anymore except you.
krellin (80 DX)
01 Apr 13 UTC
@jimgov - Question - Was this information about antarctic ice cap *growing* news to you?

@bohonk - it was in another thread - I do not wish to rehash it here. Google it...the data is readily available that "global warming" stopped about 20 years ago and the climate models consistently fail to predict temps.
Bohonk (1918 D)
01 Apr 13 UTC
Reports will be reports. I just read over that one and fine whatever. We could each cite a hundred reports on each side of the issue. What I use to made decisions is my own two eyes and good common sense. Both of which tell me global climate change is a real thing. You can't pump trillions of tins of CO2 into the atmosphere and destroy a major portion of the Earths oceans and forests without some major ecological and atmospheric effects. The Earth's biosphere functions within a balance, and modern humans have greatly disrupted that balance. I don't know how anyone with an ounce of good judgement could deny that.
jimgov (219 D(B))
01 Apr 13 UTC
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@krellin - Surprising. Yes. But I did read the whole article. And it never says that the Antartic ice cap is growing, so you are representing the facts incorrectly. What is says is

Climate change is expanding Antarctica's sea ice, according to a scientific study in the journal Nature Geoscience.

There is a big difference in the sea ice and the ice over the land where, coincidently, the vast majority of the ice is held. The article also says

The paradoxical phenomenon is thought to be caused by relatively cold plumes of fresh water derived from melting beneath the Antarctic ice shelves.

So, in a nutshell, the article is saying that the ice from the bottom of the ice shelves are melting and spreading out and forming "larger" portions of sea ice. It never says that there is more sea ice. Just that the visible shelfs are growing. It's like melting an ice cube and having some of the water refreeze at the edges of the ice cube. From above, the ice cube seems to grow, while it is losing ice beneath the surface.

At least that is how I read the article. Not more ice, just spread out more.
Bohonk (1918 D)
01 Apr 13 UTC
+1 sir jimgov
krellin (80 DX)
01 Apr 13 UTC
It *theorizes* that the ice from the bottom is melting and growing out.

You can't take "thoery" and say it's the same as fact.

It talks *nothing* about the overall mass of the ice - so we can't say for sure that either one of our positions is true.

Without proof that the thickness of the cap is thinning, then this theory is worth the paper it's written on.

I read the article - More ice...goes against our beliefs...we came up with a theory to explain it.

Our theory used to be "The air gets cold and so the ice grows..."

Now it "global warming goes through this convoluted process to spread out the ice..."

Even still...if it's global warming, why doesn't the same process apply to the other ice cap, where we say the edges are falling off because of the surface temp increase, etc...

All in all, what it indicates is that only the "consensus" one can draw about global warming is that the scientists don't know what the fuck is going on...
krellin (80 DX)
01 Apr 13 UTC
Later tonight, I will try to look up info about ice on land growing for you...because that is happening in places, too...
jimgov (219 D(B))
01 Apr 13 UTC
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I'm not arguing global climate change. I'm just pointing out the facts of the article. Here's another one from a link just to the right of the one you were at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21437680 which says

"Thin ice grows more quickly than thick ice in the winter. Ice acts as an insulator - the thinner the ice, the more heat can be lost to the atmosphere and the faster the water beneath the ice can freeze," Dr Giles told BBC News.

"But even with an increased ice growth during the winter, we can see from the Cryosat data that it's still not fully compensating for the deep summer melt."

You know krellin, it wouldn't hurt you to say that you are wrong once in a while. I've admitted to misreading something just in the past week. Said that I was wrong. Didn't die or anything. Simple.
philcore (317 D(S))
02 Apr 13 UTC
Who ever said it was a consensus? The IPCC. They don't get to decide that. Al gore doesn't get to decide that the science is settled.

Does anyone doubt for a minute that had cap and trade been enacted, then the same temperature data would be used as proof of its effectiveness?

Here's a bit of new information about the projections used for the IPCC "consensus" and how it got reported.

For those who don't follow links the summary is ... That extreme uptick in the graph for the last hundred years ... showing how extreme the change has been compared to the 10000 years prior ... You know the one that got all the publicity, the one that scared everyone ... Yeah, about that, ummm that was kind of a guess. Our model only has a resolution of 120 years so its statistically irellevant. Sorry bout that. Glad you still believe us though :o)

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/fixing-marcott-mess-in-climate-science.html?m=1


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krellin (80 DX)
30 Mar 13 UTC
20 Years of Global Warming...
Dang..it just *sucks* when 20 years of Facts get in the way of opinions.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/twenty-year-hiatus-in-rising-temperatures-has-climate-scientists-puzzled/story-e6frg6z6-1226609140980
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
01 Apr 13 UTC
I'm Leaving This Site
See below.
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King Atom (100 D)
02 Apr 13 UTC
As The Cheaters Come and Go...
Anyone remember this guy? userID=32892
How long will it be before we forget about Sandgoose? Or blankflag?
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blankflag (0 DX)
30 Mar 13 UTC
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gold standard scam?
who here thinks that the gold standard is a scam by the elites to focus their opposition on an issue that benefits them? they hold all the wealth, they can control the world gold supply and they can get even richer if there is a gold standard. it did give them the excuse for fdr to steal the gold of america to give to the elites of his day.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
01 Apr 13 UTC
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It's not an April Fool's joke, it's an April Fool's annoyance.
End those stupid banner ads that do nothing but waste screen real estate.
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spyman (424 D(G))
01 Apr 13 UTC
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When did this site get ugly banner ads
Are the ads supposed to be here, or has the site been infected by malware?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 Mar 13 UTC
"Defense of Marriage" Act and Prop 8: The Supreme Court Hearing Begins...
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/anxiety-hope-ahead-supreme-court-hearings-gay-marriage-170513043--politics.html

Mr. Chief Justice, TEAR DOWN THOSE LAWS!
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
01 Apr 13 UTC
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High Stakes Game
This game should be one of the best this year, feel free to follow along!

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=114113
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josunice (3702 D(S))
30 Mar 13 UTC
EoG GB Lando Tourney B-3
gameID=110229 3-draw Turkey (ava), Germany (Speaker), France (josunice). False stalemate line could have led to a solo, no?
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NoPantsJim (100 D)
01 Apr 13 UTC
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If email notifications for games won't work, what about RSS?
It'd be nice to just subscribe to NoPantsJim.rss and get a feed for any game I'm involved with, assuming the server load from this isn't as bad as it apparently is for email.
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hellalt (80 D)
01 Apr 13 UTC
new ghost ratings up
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist
seems I'm no 1 for this month! wtf?
hip hip hooray!
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markturrieta (400 D)
01 Apr 13 UTC
Global message removal
I'm playing in http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=113480 (world wide gunboat!-28) and I can't figure out how to get rid of the opening global message. I click/double click on the unread message icon w/ no result. I go to the message archive and back. Anybody know of a way to remove it so I don't constantly see the reminder at the top of the screen? Thanks.
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jimgov (219 D(B))
31 Mar 13 UTC
Horrific leg fracture
DO NOT click this link if you are squeamish. Ware from Louisville, playing against Duke today, completely broke his leg in half. It is horrific.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itDNYl2Q1pY
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JesusPetry (258 D)
28 Mar 13 UTC
I'm starting a 36h WTA Gunboat
gameID=113784

PM me for the password. Gunboat Tournament eliminated players are especially invited.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
01 Apr 13 UTC
Why do zombies never use guns?
I understand they don't have weapons with them when they become undead, but surely they can pick up a gun from someone they just killed... That would make them much stronger, right?
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
31 Mar 13 UTC
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xkcd lovers pay attention
He's up to something brilliant again. Check out his site, and then the explanation.
Http://xkcd.com
http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php?title=1190:_Time
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jimgov (219 D(B))
31 Mar 13 UTC
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Happy Easter
Even if you don't celebrate it. Have a great day.
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pandorau (0 DX)
01 Apr 13 UTC
pandora charms sale just we could have
[url=http://www.pandoracharmssaleonline.org/]Pandora Charms Sale online[/url]
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semck83 (229 D(B))
01 Apr 13 UTC
Western Liberalism and Nature
Here is an interesting paper on the difficulty western liberalism (not in the modern American sense) has in confronting issues that necessarily entail ethics, such as bioengineering. Discuss.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1072322
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josunice (3702 D(S))
30 Mar 13 UTC
EoG GB Lando Tourney B-6
gameID=110 Turkey win (josunice)
Would have been a three way, but I as Turkey blundered into a solo... my mistake enticed The Czech to make a run by stabbing his ally PJMan, who in turn threw the solo to me... if only I had planned it that way.
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2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
31 Mar 13 UTC
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Jesus Shaves
In the spirit of Easter, I'd like to share my favorite David Sedaris piece:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5apZmwR9UI
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