No i did not know that. I was poking fun at the fact the post-war germans in america built rockets themselves because they could (having done it before with the V1 and V2) and the American engineers couldn't...

There is a whole internet meme around Nazi super-science... Fermi-lab is what we consider super-science; even if there are arguements that increased basic science budgets should be less focused and distributed over a much wider range of applications than one REALLY big experiment.... You might find a cheaper way to do fusion if you didn't spend all the fusion research money on ITER...

On the other hand, this sad video shows the end of US taking the lead in partucle physics (possibly just at the end of the day... But i'm guessing someone will look for funding for a search for the super-symmetry particles... Are they apart from the standard model?)

But German does not equate to Nazi even in WWII. Thats like saying American equates to Democrat. The Nazis were the regime in power and a particularly brutal one and calling all Germans in WWII "Nazis" is neither funny nor nice and that is essentially what yoir "poking fun" does. People like Oskar Schindler put on the symbol to stay in business or stay alove and others like Dietrich Bonhoeffer spoke up against the Nazis and paid for it with their life.

I didn't call all germans Nazis, i refered to an internet meme which apparently you don't get.

Here: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110902023018/uncyclopedia/images/2/2 /The_Motivator_-_Nazi_Super_Science.jpg

Internet meme or not, it's still wrong. I won't back down on this.

I have to leave now to go visit my 90 year old German grandmother who came here with my now passed grandfather (he would be 93 this year) in 1939 fleeing the Nazis so my grandfather wouldn't have to serve.

That's nice. don't back down.

Have fun with your grandmother!

Regardless of the personal interests of scientists affilicated with the Nazi party, they were funded by and used their skill to develop weapons for the party.

If they had won the war it would be in part because of their contribution.

Now you can look at something like the play Copenhagen and think that some scientists intentionally sabotaged their research to prevent it's use. Particularly in this case of the development of nuclear weapons. But you can't deny that some of the more successful scientists made Rockets which were used to destroy parts of London.

They were not sabotaging their work.

Of these many went to the US after the war, and i believe some war criminals managed to avoid charges by making themselves useful to the US military (especially given consideration to the new Soviet threat which was emerging)

I don't have names, but i'm sure you can look them up if you're interested. Which you clearly are! Or just ask your grandmother.

The meme exists because the Nazis supposedly created technologies beyond what was possible after their defeat, and both Soviet and US space programmes benefited greatly from the research done at the impetus of the Nazi party for their war effort.

Some good came of this research when it came to understanding the human body, but there is still some who question the ethics of using research which would never be allowed today - at least not in most parts of the world.

Sorry, I'm with Draugnar on this one. Fermilab has done a lot of good work and it's a shame that in recent years it hasn't had the funding it deserves. But what any of that has to do with the Nazis, I have no idea.

I sggest you guys look up Operation Paper Clip. In particular one Hubertus Strughold, latterly in charge of space medicine.

I am slightly prejudiced having grown up in a London still devestated by the Blitz.

"London still devestated by the Blitz."

Which parts of London would this be, fulhamish?

Feel free to create a thread on Operation Paper Clip and the ethics of re-using unethical research.

Here i'd like to discuss the economics of current research in the EU and US, and the direct impact on frontier breaking such as the discovery of the Higgs Boson.