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Zarathustra (3672 D)
08 Mar 12 UTC
Game: Reunification
Hey, I need two more people for a classic, very slow (7 day), WTA, full press, 50 point ante game. There are some newbies and some veterans (gryncat and I), all are welcome. http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=82423

PM me for password
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Vaftrudner (2533 D)
09 Mar 12 UTC
To you in For fun-20
Whoever you are that wants a pause - how are we supposed to talk to each other to unpause later in an anonymous gunboat? That's why I'm not voting pause and I'm sorry if I'm a dick.
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cteno4 (100 D)
09 Mar 12 UTC
Cheap WTA - 14D buy-in
gameID=82719
Anonymous players, 24h/phase. Obviously I'm in the game. Seven guesses which country I am; only six guesses for those who join.
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Chanakya. (703 D)
09 Mar 12 UTC
I m happy with my first live ...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=82649
I think I am learning good...
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
24 Feb 12 UTC
EOG The Masters R5G6
39 replies
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Mar 12 UTC
Tru Ninja - where are you?
we're missing you and everyone else wants to unpause :'(
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bolshoi (0 DX)
07 Mar 12 UTC
will obama tap hillary clinton?
for vp? also, will obama tap hillary clinton? discuss.
154 replies
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Mar 12 UTC
Book of Mormon
Just got back from NYC where I watched Book of Mormon. If you're a fan of South Park, I cannot recommend you watch this highly enough.

There were a few people there who clearly had no idea what was happening and were horrified; it made it all the better.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
08 Mar 12 UTC
Women's day
Happy women's day all,
Let's thank them for admitting that the rest of the year it's in fact men's day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women's_Day
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irvinklein (0 DX)
08 Mar 12 UTC
two player games
can I and my friend just play, like we each get 3/4 countries and play against each other?
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LakersFan (899 D)
08 Mar 12 UTC
EoG Lavango
gameID=82603
Game will be ending in a few minutes, so people can post once it's finished.
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LakersFan (899 D)
08 Mar 12 UTC
a 9/11 Thread
To Unhijack the President tapping Hillary thread. Please continue the dialogue from that one about conspiracy stuff here.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
06 Mar 12 UTC
Stop the bullies......
....... I would be interested to know how many other people have been abused (or amused) by e-mails from the 'experts' on this site because they played in an anonymous game and the 'expert' didn't like something you had done, so waits until the end of the game to e-mail abuse.
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MrWhiskers (112 D)
07 Mar 12 UTC
Game Glitch
link: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=81163#gamePanel

I believe there was a glitch in this game. As you can see, in spring 1904, the fleet in rumania attacked the fleet in the black sea which was convoying an army into sev. this attack should have prevented the convoy even though it had support from Armenia.
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LakersFan (899 D)
08 Mar 12 UTC
Gotta be BS
Why are some people such idiots?

If a game starts w/ two CD's, and 1 other player misses a move for some reason, who in their right mind wouldn't just cancel or draw that game for sake of balance?
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Agent K (0 DX)
23 Feb 12 UTC
Ghost Ranking
So someone explain to me how a player like Dizzy (userID=34274) can jump to ghost ranking of 11 just from playing live games, when great players like Ivo, Crazyter, uclabb etc actually play real ones
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The Czech (39715 D(S))
08 Mar 12 UTC
Game 5: Sacrifice gameID=78707 EOG Statements
Did I beat Barn in getting this up?
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Court Jester (0 DX)
07 Mar 12 UTC
Austria bs Italy.
Ive been trying a strategy when I get Austria to surprise attack Italy off the bat. Ive mostly failed. Does anyone know of good results where Austria takes on Italy and succeeds in the first few years or is it always better to just go east and hope for a friendly Italy?
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Conor07 (942 D)
06 Mar 12 UTC
Forums
Quick Question. Why do people use the forums? Wouldn't you be able to both join games and learn the rules faster by just joining new games?
56 replies
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DiploMerlin (245 D)
08 Mar 12 UTC
Why do some users have no statistics what-so-ever?
For example some profiles say they have no messages even though I know they've messaged.
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bolshoi (0 DX)
07 Mar 12 UTC
bolshoi rankings jan+feb
so you've all been waiting for them. i downloaded the 22 pages of live gunboat wta games on the standard map from jan+feb. and i ran them. these are the top 31 users. would have done top-30 but i recognized the name santosh. not sure if there's a bug in the code cause i don't think 2ndwhiteline should be in the top-100.
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santosh (335 D)
07 Mar 12 UTC
Panda Fever EOG
gameID=82589 Most arbitrary, but fun game I've ever played.
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Dcvin (100 D)
08 Mar 12 UTC
Cheaters
Checkout ancientmed40 gameID=82622
For a anonymous, no ingame messaging game. Egypt and Persia are obviously the same person on two machines, or two people working together. This was my first game on web diplomacy. What a disgrace!
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Gunfighter06 (224 D)
08 Mar 12 UTC
Quick Question
If I have a unit in an SC that I occupied last turn but has not yet been completely captured yet, can I move that unit elsewhere, move another unit into the SC that I just occupied, and still get that SC?
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2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
07 Mar 12 UTC
Ten minute phases
Are the worst. I can't imagine playing 30 minute phases. Any idea why these game lengths exist? Four hours and its only 1911. Shoot me.
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rokakoma (19138 D)
07 Mar 12 UTC
Boatgun-2 EOG
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LakersFan (899 D)
07 Mar 12 UTC
Boatgun 2 EoG
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Check_mate (100 D)
07 Mar 12 UTC
New game 1 day phase starts in 24hrs
gameID=82598

In accordance with soem guidelines on etiquette I read a while back, I wanted to let everyone who joins this game know that two of my friends will be playing in it. We have pledged not to reveal to each other who is who.
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LakersFan (899 D)
06 Mar 12 UTC
In-Game Notes possibility?
Hey. Is there any chance that a notes function could be added to games? I think it would help some of us that don't generally write out elaborate EoG's to have the ability to include something, even if it is just terse notes like:

Russia didn't get bounced in Sweden in '01, what was Germany thinking?
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Chanakya. (703 D)
06 Mar 12 UTC
New to diplomacy... Hello to world.....
Some suggestion on how to play efficiently?
Chanakya. (703 D)
06 Mar 12 UTC
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=82470
I joined this !!someone?
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
06 Mar 12 UTC
Talk. Talk to everybody. Every turn.

Find an ally. Be loyal all game. Stab him for the win.

Play PPSC until you are ready to move on.

Always Check your orders one last time before you are done.

http://www.diplom.org/index.py is your friend.

Don't ever quit. There is freedom in knowing you are going to die and using that knowledge to hurt the people that put you in that position.
Draugnar (0 DX)
06 Mar 12 UTC
And last but not least... Don't discuss ongoing games on the forums. It's against the site rules.
QinShiHuangDi (0 DX)
06 Mar 12 UTC
All good advice, except the stab-to-win part. Players have memories, and draws are better than stabs in the long run. That is, if you intend to play for a while. Oh, a d have a think skin. More people think they are great players than actually are, and will be obnoxious to you when you don't follow their advice/orders. In the end, it is just a game. A great game, but a game.
Draugnar (0 DX)
06 Mar 12 UTC
@Qin - No, the game is about winning. A draw just emans you weren't good enough to win the game if you are big dog in it.

@Chan - Don't listen to Qin. If you have a chance for the win, *take it*! A respectable diplomacy player will respect you and, while grumbling, will consider you a quality player. Qin doesn't understand the game as it was originally intended.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
06 Mar 12 UTC
@QSHD: I doubt that. Play anon. Even if you don't, a good player will not hate you for stabbing for a solo. He'll trust you less implicitly, true, but it doesn't mean he wont ally with you under reasonable circumstances in the future.
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
06 Mar 12 UTC
YJ has good advice. The most important thing is to talk to everyone. If you are brand new to Diplomacy, make sure that you understand the rules of the game. After that, just join some games and see where it takes you. There is a good chance you will not do so great early on, but it is really a game that you get better at with some practice. After a handful of games, you will know basic strategies and will begin to refine your play. Good luck.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
06 Mar 12 UTC
More advice:

1. Trust no one, even if they won trust. Keep your guard up, "He who desires peace, prepareth war" or something.
2. Be nice. Always be nice. "I had no choice but to attack you and it's not personal, just a strategic choice" > "You've been an asshat all game and now I take revenge."
Never quit.

If you're about to die, do anything you can to hurt the one who killed you. Attack him, support his enemies, attack his friends, sacrifice your pieces to his enemies. When you're losing your mantra should be "... to the last, I grapple with thee; from hell's heart, I stab at thee; for hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee...". Do whatever you can to hurt him, but don't ever quit the game.

Trust no one.

Be paranoid - always look for the stab.

Always look for a stabbing opportunity.

Watch your back.

Paranoia is a fickle friend.

Never stab half-heartedly. A double backstab with +2/+2 poisoned blades is far more effective than a single stab with a penknife (Speaker used to have (be?) a 4/4 thief/assassin - the DM wouldn't let the assassin out to play very often though).

Use the big map, there's more on it (click the square beneath the normal map). Use the orders history (links are at the bottom of the game page).

Never accuse a player of cheating on the forums. Email the mods instead ([email protected]).

Oh, and never ever quit a game. Ever.

Enjoy it. It's only a game.
P.S. look at my stats. I'm crap at this game, but I have a lot of fun.
bolshoi (0 DX)
06 Mar 12 UTC
don't listen to them. if it's guaranteed that you'll lose, you might as well quit. forcing yourself to stay in a game that you will definitely lose will just make you dislike the game and leave this site. then again, that could be a good thing too. so weigh the options.
Glorious93 (901 D)
06 Mar 12 UTC
No, don't quit when you're losing. It's childish and it's not part of the game.
NikeFlash (140 D)
06 Mar 12 UTC
Bolshoi you are a fucktard.
NikeFlash (140 D)
06 Mar 12 UTC
Quitters are the worst type of players.
Cybil Disorder (154 D)
06 Mar 12 UTC
Don`t quit a game. When the end is near, strategic suicide is unpredictable to your opponents and a lot of fun.
semck83 (229 D(B))
06 Mar 12 UTC
What Nike said. Also, read this:

http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/
bolshoi (0 DX)
06 Mar 12 UTC
bonus of quitting, you can laugh at these fools who get emotional everytime you mention how you enjoy quitting.
semck83 (229 D(B))
06 Mar 12 UTC
One concrete thing to know about quitting, OP -- if you have a lot of quits ("resignations") on your profile, you probably won't be invited / allowed into the better forum-organized games.
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
07 Mar 12 UTC
Have fun and don't take it too seriously. It's only a game. That being said, I rarely listen to my own advice.
pjmansfield99 (100 D)
07 Mar 12 UTC
HAVE FUN!!! HAVE FUN???? This isn't about fun, this is about WAR!!! ;-)
Sepherim (146 D)
07 Mar 12 UTC
Have fun, and mostly play. That's the best suggestion. Lose, listen, talk, learn. And you'll be on your path to greatnes. Oh, and take a long while to look at the map, familiarize yourself with the location of the provinces, the different openings, etc. People will surprise you always, but if you know the map well they'll do it less often.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
07 Mar 12 UTC
gameID=78959

Consider my last game. I did a stab that turned out not too good, and was about to get pinched by an opportunistic France and a very angry Germany. Rather than quit, I opted to make a public show of throwing to France (I believe I was singing the French national anthem in global chat at one point). Doing so made him trust my words - he listened when a few turns later I showed him (truthfully) that even if I did throw to him that Turkey would almost certainly solo.

This put me in a position where he (and Germany, grudgingly) allowed me to share in the draw. Now it wasn't situation critical in that game (yet) but it would have been if I hadn't found a way out. Even if I had failed at that I would have been delighted to make sure that France or Turkey soloed.

Also, look at late game Austria. with only 1 SC left he HUGELY influenced events and was probably the crucial factor in unifying the west, since we all 3 needed to coordinate to stop him from tear assing around France. There is LOTS to do when you are underpowered.

How on earth were there that many neutrals left after 1901!
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
07 Mar 12 UTC
It's a WT variant. Very powerful if England doesn't fuck it up :P
Chanakya. (703 D)
07 Mar 12 UTC
Thank you..To all of you I hope I may Like this game...
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
07 Mar 12 UTC
Here are some more advanced tips too, that I am only starting to get a grasp on:

Explain your stabs. Suck up to your enemies, stroke their egos even while you take their centers. Let them know if they can make you see its to your advantage to make peace then you would much rather be working WITH them.

Bantering with your rivals can be a LOT of fun, and you can learn a lot about whats going on in other spheres by talking to people you aren't directly engaged with (this is something I'm NOT very good at, but I've definitely fed good intel to rivals across the board)

Be subtle. The better your rivals are, the less likely they are to do what you want. They *will* see through thinly veiled bullshit.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
07 Mar 12 UTC
Okay fuck it, we're boosting mr. Chanakya to the top 100 GR with his first few games. More advice:

*Language: avoid sloppiness, ambiguity, bad spelling and grammar, etc.. You want your messages to reflect your thoughts, bad language reflects bad thinking and it makes you a potential target.

*Following on that last piece of advice: Opening posts. If you want to construct a certain alliance with a country, write some nice paragraphs about it. Start wishing that person a "great game and lots of fun" or something, put in a joke (doesn't need to be very funny, people will appreciate your reaching out to them, if they're strong players, that is) and continue to explain the general outline of your plan, followed by some tentative moves.

*Write EoGs (End of Game). This will provoke other players to contribute their own EoGs and you can learn from them. Also, it makes you reflect about what you did during the game, why, and whether in retrospect how that worked out.

*The forum is your friend. You won't find many multi-accounters having two of their characters exhibiting two different personalities here, so if somebody's contributing here it's bound to be a good choice in player (plus since they feel part of the community there less likely to NMR.

*Play passworded games (less cheaters there), play WTA (not PPSC), play anonymous (but demand to know who's in the game), play for some real points (20, 25, so people are at least a little interested) and finally

*Learn this thread by heart.

*One last thing: this is not about having fun. You are here to win. You will suffer, playing bad players in the beginning who do things that only hurt you and himself, and you will tell him, and he won't listen. Then you both die. You will feel cropped up anger and think the game is no fun at all: revel in it. Frustrate yourself to victory rather than to pleasure yourself to death. Don't make friends either, make temporary allies, but they're not your friends, they're other people on a computer who - if they're good players - are also not interested in making friends. So don't have fun, and don't make friends.

*You're ready now.
ajb (846 D)
07 Mar 12 UTC
If you are not in an anon game look at your opponents passed games and what they did when they were that country previously. A lot of players are a creature to habit in their opening moves and allies so know that


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