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AverageWhiteBoy (314 D)
14 Jul 12 UTC
Youtube Music Thread
No words. Just links and likes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swW0f_9z_R0
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
13 Jul 12 UTC
US sex ed, public policy vs ignorant religiosity?
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Jul 12 UTC
I've very little time for people complaining that sexual education is against their religion, primarily because it is against the /parents/ religion. By and large, a 14 year old isn't religious, they just believe whatever their parents told them. I think that sexual education should cover all mainstream views (or try to), but I do not agree that parents have the right to deny children an outlook other than that of the parents' themselves.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
14 Jul 12 UTC
@mujus: you said 'You have a very odd notion of "human function."'

Humans eat, fuck and fight. Mediated by culture.

These are social level functions above the mechanics of digestion, breathing, and muscle use.

It is not hard to avoid fghting (for most adults, though some kids struggle) society mediates that behaviour.
Sex is held up as this amazing thing which you can't have, used to sell products and banned in public places... Somehow everywhere and nowhere. Teens go through rebellious phases regardless (something to do with leaving the nest, they have become physically capable of surviving on their own; out society is more comppex emotionally and economically, which leads to trouble) but they still compete with each other for status, and sex is a great option for them.

Religion tries to mediate this. While when it comes to violence their peers are mediating the behaviour. It is undesirable to all. (when it comes to food we eat without much thought, by and large, to any consequences beyond our own health, convienance and pleasure/flavour enjoyment - that is beyond our egos)

Society mediates human behaviour, always has, whether it was parents showing offspring what food to eat, or how to fish (the best source of hunted protien for 'hunter gatherers' was fish)

Society mediates when it is ok to be violent, and how - American football, boxing, fencing... there are many acceptable forms of violent sports in our society. And different subcltures have different standards - prisons tend toward violent competition, poor urban neighbourhoods where teens can't compete for jobs, income, political status or academic achievement tend to end up more violent (this acts as a survival trait, scaring off potential threats by being threatening, at least for male teens, femape teens tend to see a spike in their pregnancy rates rather than violence rates, again survival is being guarenteed by reproducing)

So yes, all normal things, all mediated by culture. But this is a question of public p
orathaic (1009 D(B))
14 Jul 12 UTC
Public policy. As in the official government part rather than the huge amount of private influence which corporations (who are people afterall) have on our culture.

Massive outcries may get comedians who tell rape jokes fired. But by and large pulic outcries are a minor influence on corporations, especially where being outrageous can be a good advertising tactic. Yet we presume humans have the power to decide for themselves, that free will reigns supreme - it does not, we are heavily influenced by our culture, or even counter-cultures or hippie/vegan/organic foods... - we have public policy for the common good. We assume that we can't survive in a purely free market corporate society - so no privatised military, no private courts, and government attempts to remain independant... While attempting to please their electorate... Maybe judges appointed for life would make a better system of government.

But i digress. Education is for the public good. Religion is relegated to a private interest (with tax free corporations, selling salvation* in exchangd for mediating the behaviour of their customers) - At least in America.

Individuals are free to choose which religion the adhere to, or none. Equally religions (which may be closer to being people than corporations) should have a say in public policy. But it should be determined by the results which are desired.

If we want to influence teens propensity to have sex we need to alter our cultural worship of sex. That happens to be in private hands already, so isn't a question of piblic policy (similarily the warrior culture in the US - hero worshipping 'the troops', sports stars and gun use, is a contributing factor to the violence in US society, and i'm sure varies from state to state... ) What public policy can do is empower people to make their own decisions to prevent disease - abstinance is a great prevention tool, however teaching abstinance only sex ed results in teens having sex anyway, the evidence is that combined approaches are better.

So back to parents and opt-outs. A minimum standard of health education would include explaining how disease can be past from person to person by the sharing of bodily fluids, and that this is necessary for reproduction. (and kissing) this kind of info should not have any opt-out in my opinion.

On the otherhand, giving parents information so they can easily home school their kids would be a great boon; i'm all in favour of adults learning something from the education system to a level where they can teach it.

Regarding the more graphic extreme of sex ed, i think it is better in schools (even with an opt-out) than learning from pornography - which is in private hands and tends to be rather misogynistic and distant from reality (sorry for the break in the post)


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pjmansfield99 (100 D)
14 Jul 12 UTC
Any Mods online?
I know its a weird time but just wondered if anyone was around?
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damian (675 D)
14 Jul 12 UTC
So has Draugnar finally matured and can I take him off my mute list?
Draug need not answer. I won't see it. But does anyone else what to chime in with their opinion so I can decide if it is safe to take him off? I kind of miss his ferociously bombastic posts, but he got so over the top in his youthful desire to act tough I had to mute him or kill him before his (mental) 21st birthday, and the former was the better option
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Maniac (189 D(B))
13 Jul 12 UTC
First cut is the deepest
Circumcision - religious right that needs defending or child abuse? Germany court has ruled it illegal.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
13 Jul 12 UTC
Compliment thread
In this thread you must compliment the poster above you. We've done this before and it was pretty funny and also not the usual catastrophe.
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basvanopheusden (2176 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
Anyone from the Princeton area?
I am moving to Princeton for a research project at the university. Does anyone here live in Princeton, or in New Jersey in general?
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
10 Jul 12 UTC
Hey everyone! My wife is on Webdip!!
I won't give away her screen name and you won't find her in any of my games, but she's in a couple of games right now and having a blast! How cool is that?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
12 Jul 12 UTC
"Now Where Have I Heard That Before..." (A Game Played Entirely On Quotes?)
Every message you send has to be a quote from a movie, TV show, book, song, etc., with the exception of locations (as finding a quote for moving to the Ruhr is a bit too difficult, I think)...an example, say, Italy asking Russia for help could be:
"With our combined strength (@Budalest) we can END this destructive conflict, and bring order to the galaxy, er, Europe!" :p
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
I'm building a website, come join it.
Hey guys, I've started a new website, and will be getting a domain name this weekend. Check it out. Right now the address is

http://sbyvl.webs.com/
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
14 Jul 12 UTC
Jellybean and Google NOW
Anyone have 4.1 yet?

I've been playing around with Google NOW a bit and it looks like it might actually be quite useful.
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
09 Jul 12 UTC
Returning to webdip
After a year away, I've decided to come back to webdip for the duration of my summer holiday (as opposed to just making the occasional post on the forums every 3 months). Not playing any games until I've got past my week away that starts in a fortnight. How's webdip getting on?
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
Rangers FC (Scottish football)
So, today Scottish Football League clubs have voted that the "new" Rangers FC, arising out of the old, bankrupt and liquidated, Rangers, will enter the league structure in Division 3 (the fourth tier of league football in Scotland).
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MichiganMan (5126 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
Friday Night CHICKEN SHIT!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=94539

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cspieker (18223 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
EOG - Friday Knife Fight
gameID=94528

Two words: Boh Ring!!!
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MichiganMan (5126 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
WTA-GB-144
Who was France in the cancelled WTA-GB-144, and why wouldn't you cancel?
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dubmdell (556 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
Christian Edifi tablet based on gay-rights-supporting Android
http://unicornbooty.com/blog/2012/07/13/ruh-roh-the-official-christian-tablet-is-a-homo-loving-gay-marriage-endorsing-android/
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
Shiny Medal Challenge
Dear fellow Shiny Medal players,

I challenge you to a WTA full press game. Only players who have donated and hence have a Shiny Medal can join. Please post your preferred bet size and phase length, though please nothing much more than 100 D.
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
qwickie gunbowt
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=94467
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mscott (384 D(G))
12 Jul 12 UTC
Throwing a Game
When is it acceptable to throw a WTA game( or any game for that matter, but WTA has the stiffest "penalty") knowing that you could force a draw? Are there ever grounds to believe that this is ever acceptable? I don't believe so, but looking to be proven wrong. I am of the school that would say Win; failing that, draw. Period. Curious to know what others think.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
09 Jul 12 UTC
Talk about generations
Generation gaps and cultural differences. Your thoughts?
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Alderian (2425 D(S))
07 Jul 12 UTC
July Ghost Ratings
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist/ghost-ratings-by-category
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King Atom (100 D)
11 Jul 12 UTC
I'm Still Angry About... (Weekly Thread)
Once a week, I'm gonna complain about stuff here. You can either agree with me or yell at me for being stupid, but don't try and piss me off, 'cause I just ain't been in the mood lately.
54 replies
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
11 Jul 12 UTC
Should cheating accusations be allowed?
Because it's an open issue.
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2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
Shopping and handbags
See below.

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Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Jul 12 UTC
Sacred Aliens EOG
gameID=89589

What the fuck was France thinking by giving Italy the game on the final move?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
13 Jul 12 UTC
Remember that debate we were having on amending the US Constitution?
This is timely:

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/07/08/another-stab-at-the-us-constitution
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Maniac (189 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
Should I be worried
See inside
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
I go away for ten days and this happens...
... (see inside)
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
29 Jun 12 UTC
Existential risks
http://www.existential-risk.org/concept.html
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