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AverageWhiteBoy (314 D)
14 Jul 12 UTC
Youtube Music Thread
No words. Just links and likes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swW0f_9z_R0
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
13 Jul 12 UTC
US sex ed, public policy vs ignorant religiosity?
(see inside)
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pjmansfield99 (100 D)
14 Jul 12 UTC
Any Mods online?
I know its a weird time but just wondered if anyone was around?
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damian (675 D)
14 Jul 12 UTC
So has Draugnar finally matured and can I take him off my mute list?
Draug need not answer. I won't see it. But does anyone else what to chime in with their opinion so I can decide if it is safe to take him off? I kind of miss his ferociously bombastic posts, but he got so over the top in his youthful desire to act tough I had to mute him or kill him before his (mental) 21st birthday, and the former was the better option
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Maniac (184 D(B))
13 Jul 12 UTC
First cut is the deepest
Circumcision - religious right that needs defending or child abuse? Germany court has ruled it illegal.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
13 Jul 12 UTC
Compliment thread
In this thread you must compliment the poster above you. We've done this before and it was pretty funny and also not the usual catastrophe.
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basvanopheusden (2176 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
Anyone from the Princeton area?
I am moving to Princeton for a research project at the university. Does anyone here live in Princeton, or in New Jersey in general?
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
10 Jul 12 UTC
Hey everyone! My wife is on Webdip!!
I won't give away her screen name and you won't find her in any of my games, but she's in a couple of games right now and having a blast! How cool is that?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
12 Jul 12 UTC
"Now Where Have I Heard That Before..." (A Game Played Entirely On Quotes?)
Every message you send has to be a quote from a movie, TV show, book, song, etc., with the exception of locations (as finding a quote for moving to the Ruhr is a bit too difficult, I think)...an example, say, Italy asking Russia for help could be:
"With our combined strength (@Budalest) we can END this destructive conflict, and bring order to the galaxy, er, Europe!" :p
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
I'm building a website, come join it.
Hey guys, I've started a new website, and will be getting a domain name this weekend. Check it out. Right now the address is

http://sbyvl.webs.com/
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
14 Jul 12 UTC
Jellybean and Google NOW
Anyone have 4.1 yet?

I've been playing around with Google NOW a bit and it looks like it might actually be quite useful.
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
09 Jul 12 UTC
Returning to webdip
After a year away, I've decided to come back to webdip for the duration of my summer holiday (as opposed to just making the occasional post on the forums every 3 months). Not playing any games until I've got past my week away that starts in a fortnight. How's webdip getting on?
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
Rangers FC (Scottish football)
So, today Scottish Football League clubs have voted that the "new" Rangers FC, arising out of the old, bankrupt and liquidated, Rangers, will enter the league structure in Division 3 (the fourth tier of league football in Scotland).
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MichiganMan (5126 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
Friday Night CHICKEN SHIT!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=94539

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cspieker (18223 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
EOG - Friday Knife Fight
gameID=94528

Two words: Boh Ring!!!
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MichiganMan (5126 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
WTA-GB-144
Who was France in the cancelled WTA-GB-144, and why wouldn't you cancel?
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dubmdell (556 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
Christian Edifi tablet based on gay-rights-supporting Android
http://unicornbooty.com/blog/2012/07/13/ruh-roh-the-official-christian-tablet-is-a-homo-loving-gay-marriage-endorsing-android/
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
Shiny Medal Challenge
Dear fellow Shiny Medal players,

I challenge you to a WTA full press game. Only players who have donated and hence have a Shiny Medal can join. Please post your preferred bet size and phase length, though please nothing much more than 100 D.
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
qwickie gunbowt
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=94467
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mscott (384 D(G))
12 Jul 12 UTC
Throwing a Game
When is it acceptable to throw a WTA game( or any game for that matter, but WTA has the stiffest "penalty") knowing that you could force a draw? Are there ever grounds to believe that this is ever acceptable? I don't believe so, but looking to be proven wrong. I am of the school that would say Win; failing that, draw. Period. Curious to know what others think.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
09 Jul 12 UTC
Talk about generations
Generation gaps and cultural differences. Your thoughts?
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Alderian (2425 D(S))
07 Jul 12 UTC
July Ghost Ratings
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist/ghost-ratings-by-category
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King Atom (100 D)
11 Jul 12 UTC
I'm Still Angry About... (Weekly Thread)
Once a week, I'm gonna complain about stuff here. You can either agree with me or yell at me for being stupid, but don't try and piss me off, 'cause I just ain't been in the mood lately.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
Wilt certainly did, 2WL, and one could argue Olajuwan or Duncan did to some extent too; but I think Jordan did too, albeit more subtly. For example, because everybody wanted to be like Mike, he ushered in an era of terrific athleticism as the focus of the game.

Interestingly, Wilt changed the game in a sense because people had to adapt to beat Wilt. One could argue that Jordan _directly_ affected the game somewhat less because there was no way to adapt to beat him.
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
I'd take that one step further and argue George Mikan revolutionized the game more than either Wilt or Jordan, since neither of them necessitated a rules change to level the playing field.
ulytau (541 D)
12 Jul 12 UTC
There's a huge difference between being the most influential and being the greatest, being the best. Plato is the most influential Western philosopher but who will today say he is the greatest?
semck83 (229 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
Agreed.

And let us not forget, in his own way, Paul Arizin.
semck83 (229 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
I think that's a bit of a sliding scale in one's definition of "great," ulytau. (Certainly there are still people who call Plato the greatest, by the way). In any case, that's much more likely to happen much, much later on. The fact that the Beatles are still directly influencing people 40 years out says a great deal about their quality.
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
Hence, my Wilt Chamberlain analogy. I defy you to name an artist today who wasn't in some way influenced by the Beatles.
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
One could also argue that Bob Dylan was an even bigger influence on modern music than the Beatles, since he was the first to turn them on to marijuana :)
Thucydides (864 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
Which ones do you think suck ghug? I'm not actually trashing the Beatles, they are just not favorites of mine at all. To me they are vanilla.

The list you see there is actually pulled off my facebook lmao. It's about 2-3 years out of date, and I acknowledge some are better than others. But I enjoy all their stuff.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
And I hold that a good number are either:

1) more influential musically than the Beatles
2) of better musical quality than the Beatles

Anyway, yall want to know what *I'm* still mad about?

How King Atom said he would leave the site and not come back till he had his symphony done, then he came back without a symphony.

Hmph.
ulytau (541 D)
12 Jul 12 UTC
How do you measure "being in some way influenced by The Beatles"? Of course everyone heard their songs because you just can't avoid it, but that's not an important influence, every musician also heard about the Nazis and had to cope with it - that doesn't mean it's reflected in their work. Am I influenced by Leo Fender because I play on Stratocaster? That's just a holistic bullshit model of a world where everything is interconnected and interdependant to a point where you can't discern which parts are actually important and which are marginal.

So let's say that "being in some way influenced by The Beatles" means a conscious influence on the artist? Or perhaps just a direct impact on the music, its sound, structure... In that case, this influence is slowly but constantly vanishing. You don't see big names covering Beatles songs as much nowadays (Dylan has an upper hand here I would say). How many 30-somethings would say about The Beatles the same Lennon said about Elvis: "Nothing really affected me until I heard Elvis. If there hadn't been Elvis, there would not have been The Beatles"? How many random reviews state the band sounds like The Beatles? Which elements of music from artists like Sunn O))), Salif Keita or Frankmusik could you atribute to Beatles? Especially since they were predominantly men of synthesis, blending music forms of yesterday and perfecting them not outright inventing them like Schaeffer and Henry did with the electronic music.

Their influence is actually predominantly indirect. People like semck or Atom are in vast minority in their respective age bracket; while most of the rest (including me) would not dispute The Beatles as the most influential band (not least because they know they are expected to reply to such question with The Beatles), only a handful would cite them as their favorite band (which is a huge part of what one considers the greatest band).
mscott (384 D(G))
12 Jul 12 UTC
I'm still laughing about how preposterous it is that in a thread that discusses the Beatles merits as the greatest bank ever (quite likely) someone even had the idea, even with irony (though it didn't seem like it) to start talking about Linkin Park as if they were even in the same musical galaxy of talent as the Beatles...
Rich.
achillies27 (100 D)
12 Jul 12 UTC
"banks"?
King Atom (100 D)
12 Jul 12 UTC
Thucy, I can tell that you are not someone who has studied music, so I'm just going to let you slide.
King Atom (100 D)
12 Jul 12 UTC
*Not someone who has done in-depth musical studies and continually participates in musical activities
hammac (100 D)
12 Jul 12 UTC
tell you what I'm angry about - that so many people don't know the difference between their and there (not to mention they're)
Thucydides (864 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
"*Not someone who has done in-depth musical studies and continually participates in musical activities"

Wow, elitist. Lol. I do, but thanks for not asking.

Anyway to be clear all I was expressing was that I don't particularly love listening to Beatles music, not that the Beatles weren't important or novel or skilled. There were most of these, though they do get blown a bit out of proportion at times.
Putin33 (111 D)
12 Jul 12 UTC
Andrews Sisters were more influential than the Beatles, and more pleasing to the ear.

Bob Dylan is like listening to styrofoam being rubbed together.
Putin33 (111 D)
12 Jul 12 UTC
"Scott Joplin, Louis Armstrong, Thelonious Monk, Dizzy Gillespie, Ornette Coleman, Miles Davis, Art Blakey, Benny Goodman"

Winner. I'd also add: Robert Johnson, Judy Garland, Glenn Miller, Ella Fitzgerald, Artie Shaw, and Nat King Cole.
krellin (80 DX)
12 Jul 12 UTC
Give me a fucking brak. KA is still mad because he hasn't grown a pubic hair yet and has to maturbate with tweezers....go teh fuck away, God-hater.
krellin (80 DX)
12 Jul 12 UTC
Because, KA, you false-ass bulshit phony "Christian"....there is **nothing"" Christian about deciding to bitch about things on a weekly basis. whatever happend to the Bible saying to be joyful in ALL things, huh? Fucking phony ass bitch.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
13 Jul 12 UTC
YES ME AND PUTIN AGREE!

I heartily second all of those. As I said, that list is old, and I hand't gotten into as many artists as I have now.

I will also add Billie Holiday. I mean.... Strange Fruit??
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
13 Jul 12 UTC
Can we all at least agree that Linkin Park is probably the best band of the 21st century? I mean come on.
Putin33 (111 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
Good call. Although that song gives me chills, pretty intense.

@2ndWhiteLine... As much as I enjoy such undeniably magnificent classics as "Crawling" and "Bleed It Out," I feel compelled to submit for your consideration the indescribable beauty which is the album "Indestructible" by Disturbed. Specifically there's that one song where the guy laughs all evil-like in the beginning and oh boy that sure sounds neat eh fellas?


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Zmaj (215 D(B))
11 Jul 12 UTC
Should cheating accusations be allowed?
Because it's an open issue.
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2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
Shopping and handbags
See below.

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Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Jul 12 UTC
Sacred Aliens EOG
gameID=89589

What the fuck was France thinking by giving Italy the game on the final move?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
13 Jul 12 UTC
Remember that debate we were having on amending the US Constitution?
This is timely:

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/07/08/another-stab-at-the-us-constitution
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Maniac (184 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
Should I be worried
See inside
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
12 Jul 12 UTC
I go away for ten days and this happens...
... (see inside)
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
29 Jun 12 UTC
Existential risks
http://www.existential-risk.org/concept.html
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