When someone CDs, it's best to draw so that everyone else gets points and so that they have a resign stuck on their records forever.

I always insist on a cancel. I'm sick of fake draws on my record.

That's just me though.

I agree with Damian

I prefer to punish those who screwed the game up, fuck my record

I'm not a fan of boosting my record, but I do like putting a CDer on a lot of blacklists by giving them a resign.

I'm with Strategos. You missed a turn, tough shit, you deserve the CD.

Eh. I don't have much to contribute to this discussion. However I'd rather keep the rating systems more legitimate. Then worry about punishing some garbage player.

I see the records of good players as being worth more then that of the garbage ones.

I believe GR doesn't take into account games finished before end of '02? so your record isn't really helped.

Yeah, it only works after autumn 1903, but you still get one or two points out of it and the CDer still gets a resign.

I prefer to cancel as well, but it would be nice if in an anonymous game if someone CDs, then they get revealed when they have 'left' the game. I'd just like to know who it is that's wasting our time.
I know if you join annonymous games that will always be a risk but it would be a 'nice to have'.
Anyway...

Also, it would be good if you still get the resign even if you also get defeated. There are so many players with 80% resign rate that are masked by a 60% defeat rate.

By that, resign takes priority over defeat on the player record, rather than the other way around.

Nah... After an hour of play you should draw. So nobody won, but some definitely lost. It might have been a crap game, but not every game can be Kasparov versus Karpov. Those quitters made their choice. Besides cancels just reward quitting games when the going gets tough.

I think I'm leaning towards that stand now Spyman. I was pretty narked yesterday.

As an aside, at what point in a game (what year?) do people generally not offer the draw after someone goes into CD. When is it fair game to carry on and take advantage of the situation and when is it expected (and considered appropriate to draw/cancel)?

I think it depends on the level of players surrounding. A CD in the first 2 years is call for a draw by the better players, I believe. Most lower echelon games will just play through it. The best way to force the draw is to just create a draw alliance. The holdout will come around if he sees its him against the world.

I think a lot of this debate could be solved by two measures.

-Cancelled games still appear in your history but are not recorded on your record (so you can see who it was who CDed)
-CDs in cancelled games still count as resigns

If that was the case, the number of false draws would be radically reduced.

I think they'd be virtually eliminated. The only reason for the false draw is to punish the CDer. Also, if a CD in a cancel were to *not* get back the points, that would additional reduce thre false draws. As it stands, a cancel returns the CDers points.

@Dosg - When it is approrpriate would depend on the size of the Cd nation. A little 1 SC nation that is quitting cause he is a sore loser can be ignored and played on even in year 3 (it happens) but a strong 2nd that goes CD should see the game cancelled if it would alter the outcome in most situtations. I mean, if the player CDing gives someone else the win because it was a critical spot or size, it's good form to accept the draw. But if they would have likely gotten the win anyhow, then not necessarily. It's a tough judgement call to make.