What is the spirit of the game, anyway?

Sweet-talking your way into a draw is a valid tactic, at least to me. I've saved myself some losses with it.


Not that I play for win/loss record, but I think it's good to approach each game with the intent of achieving the most desirable result possible.

That looks like a pretty weird game. Italy stopped entering moves for the last four turns, and the turn before those only entered orders for two units, despite the fact victory was within his grasp. I think podium is right - that game was fishy.

"What is the spirit of the game, anyway? "

Play to win, if you can't win play to draw, if you can't draw play to survive.

Look at another game these guys are invoolved with as AH and Russia - you'd think if they were strong allies Turkey would get a caning, whereas Turkey is doing well. That said, AH and Russia have tried to work together against T and G but they (Ah and R) are just inept.

And that is the problem with meta-gaming and multi-accounting. You can't become better players. The only way to learn and progress is to play the game straight up. As my teachers used to say, you're only cheating yourselves.

To me the spirit of the game is to achieve the best outcome possible starting with solo and if you must draw your goal is to include as few as possible.In this game Italy clearly had a solo but held off to help Russia gain supply centers so as to ensure he would gain more points.Not fair to others involved in a game if those two are playing together.

Only not fair if they had an unbreakable alliance. It is completely fair (and it has been discussed time and again here) to form an alliance in game and see to it your ally gets an equal share by allowing him to catch up and go for the team draw. It happens in real-life war and it happens in Diplomacy (who won WWI? the US? Great Britain? or was it a "team victory"?

podium: You can always check if players have played with each other yourself. You don't have to post here.

Draugnar: I'd say take-over can very easily be cheaters.

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