Hopefully the bugs people have been reporting relating to the viaConvoy parameter are clearing up now, thanks for the bug reports

Please do rhino, otherwise I'd have to guess your intentions etc

When I enter an order for a fleet to move, it asks me to include "via land" or "via convoy". Since it's a fleet doing the moving--and in this case from a sea space to a coastal/land space--do I enter "via land"? thanks

I am in an anonymous game (which this blows to pieces) discussing a move that may give me the solo win but I guess I have no choice!!! Gulf of Lyons is attempting to attack Spain (south coast) with support from MAO, MARS and WESTERN MED. Only the drop box does not allow ANY of those supports. Please help.

Those two bugs should be fixed rhino and groverloaf

Yep, fixed. Thank you so much, and I like the new interface!

I sincerely think the new entry system is against the spirit of Diplomacy. Bad players should be allowed to enter invalid orders by mistake (such as a "support hold" for an attacking unit) and good players should be allowed to do so in purpose.

How am I going to pull the "Trust me, I really meant to support you" con from now on? :)

I agree. I like the "sorry I thought I had supported your hold" line!!!

The drop down menus used to specify whether or not that move would require a convoy or not. Generally a unit in Italy for example, would have a host of movement options because of all the fleets everywhere, but actually only a couple of real options. Now the menus hold no distinction, can you please add the "via convoy" back to the menu?

Kestas, another quick bug:
order fleet A to convoy
order fleet B to support hold fleet A

changes fleet A's orders to "hold" automatically. Can be changed back easily enough, but would be an unfortunate way to lose a convoy...

The above actually leads me to a general comment about all this - I definitely like the javascript order building, especially as an alternative to the massive amount of server interaction needed previously.

The "oops I messed up the support" ploy aside, however, I'm still not sure I like the javascript trying to anticipate your orders for another unit... I don't know about anyone else, but I like going down the list to deal with orders one at a time... it's how I make sure I've gotten everything. My suggestion, for what it's worth: use the javascript for the excellent purposes of populating order options as you go.... but don't let a change in orders for one unit affect another.

Of course, from what you've said this looks like it's a building block to a click-to-order map... in which case being able to correctly infer orders is a major step (clicking an army to move via convoy and then having to separately click the fleet to convoy the army would be a little nuts). But personally I've never liked the clickable maps myself, so I'd also suggest that when it DOES come around, we leave the classic order-by-menu interface as an option... without the inferred orders ;)

(also, by the way... just looking at this js... bravo sir, bravo!)

selquest +1
I don't think one order should restrict the other.

loving the javascript! good work, been waiting for this :P so much quicker to input orders now

I love the ease of use introduced with this change.

I won't miss the "oops I messed up my orders" tactic. If you really want that you can play F2F, by email, by judges, or whatever and get that plus other tactics back. It does take away one aspect of the game, but that aspect was already partly taken away by not allowing you to order London to move to Munich.

As for the auto-setting of another unit's order when you do a support move, support hold, or convoy; I also very much like that. Just needs some tweaking so it doesn't mess up orders. Support move and convoy should change the unit to move in conjunction with the support or convoy order. Support hold should only change the unit's order if it is currently set to move.

kestasjk +42

(I do miss having my name in bold though even though we only had it for a week or so.)

Perhaps a user preference on whether to use the hints when setting orders as well?

kestasjk, I'm still getting the issue where in fleet A is convoying an army and fleet B supports fleet A to hold it changes fleet A to hold rather than convoy. I would think you would only want a support hold to change an order if the unit being supported to hold is currently ordered to move.

Firefox 3.0.13

I've tested this in gameID=13818

I set Black Sea to convoy Rumania to Ankara which changed Rumania's order as it should. But then I set Con to support hold Black Sea which changed Black Sea to hold.

Note I am not actually wanting to do this move because it would be pretty senseless. Just testing it out because I enjoy doing so.

With an army in Belgium & Picardy and a Fleet in the English Channel:
Belgium support move into Holland from Hel
English Channel move to North Sea (I don't think these first two are relevant)
##And, when I order Picardy to support Hold Belgium, it gives me the option to support hold *via land or via convoy*

It's a minor bug - and it disappears when you update the orders.

That said, I must add that I do enjoy the freedom to mess up my orders =(.

I really like this update kestas! Thanks for the work, and all the quick changes when something was wrong. Thumbs up :)

I like it too! Thanks!

<3 kestas.

BEST UPDATE EVER!!! this is going to be great for live games

you are the best coder/moderater/lover every kestas.

Even better for those of us with really crappy internet connections. Given the opportunity, I want to hug whoever decided to do this.

It's great for me since I diplome from my iPhone and updating is a drag, but sometimes still press update.

Btw, I really don't like click to order maps. Big reason I dropped playdiplomacy.com way back in the day. So if you are going to implement them, please god give me the option to opt out.

I would very much like if the scripts where one order influences the other were optional. I think my ally in one game just lost because of the new entry system.

I have been on this site for the past few days with my BlackBerry Storm using the Bolt browser (google it). I must say it has been working quite well aside from having to get used to a new browser. The BlackBerry browser is too difficult on this site so I got Bolt.

Haven't read the thread...I have the option to convoy an army in Armenia to Tunis....fleets are in Black Sea, Aegean and Ionian...none in CON....regardless, it's an illegal move.