Seconded - you'll have to make sure everybody else is OK with what you're doing. Proxying orders is usually a setting people know about before beginning the game, and this "total proxy" is even more drastic. You'd be able to send messages as the player you're taking over!

It would be best to find a sitter you're not playing with though.

Obviously it depends on the game in question, but I would strongly dissuade you.
The problem is that if the other person has your password there's no way anyone could break the alliance no matter how good their diplomacy which is unfair.

Is this a case where one person needs a gamesitter while they are away for a short period? Or is this a takeover-for-the-rest-of-the-game type thing?

Also if the person turned on you and changed your password you wouldn't be able to get it back

I think Danikine (with whom Djbent and I are on good terms, right?) refers to this game:
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9481
England (Djbent) and Frace (myself) have stable stalemate lines and we have input the same orders for years.
Danikine hopes that one of us will eventually miss a turn.
Meaning that *IF* I asked Djbent to input my orders she wouldn't have any disgression on what to input but would just repeat the same orders over and over until Danikine accepts the stalemate.

Would that be unfair?

Also: What would you do in Austria's place? Accept a draw?

Yes, this game is a clear draw - and waiting for someone to miss a turn, so that you'll break through their stalemate line is wrong on so many levels...

i m trying to convince france to change sides, england came with a 9 SC and just call the draw, one season of play and wants to get the points. The points i will friendly sharewith france but not england.

i mean england was 9 SC in CD and then Djbent took control, one season after calls a draw...

oh it's fine, austria can keep battling it out. we'll work something out for when france has to take a flight back to the states - a sitter or something. no need to debate this in the forum really.

If France won't agree then that's tough...England's diplomacy is obviously better than yours.

well france also benefits more from a draw than a survive. so it's not as much about diplomacy as appealing to the desire for the best possible outcome. but thanks for the credit! =P

if you need a sitter my email is in my profile

actually, i take that back. i think it's bad form to just keep going when it's a stalemate and you're simply hoping someone on the opposite side will make a mistake in their orders. what do others think?

starting a new thread on the topic.

djbent, just curious how many points you had to pay to take over England? I assume a fair chunk of the pot were your points since you were taking over more than a quarter of the supply centes. So a draw for you might only make a minimal amount.

Danikine74, it isn't as if djbent is walking out the door with his pockets bulging. He would just get the points he put in plus a bit. And a win for the old pot amount might not have been very much more than a three way draw for the new pot amount.

i don't recall alderian, i didn't join for points, i joined because i saw a decent position CD in a game i thought would be made more enjoyable without a CD.

and it's she and her, for the record =)

Sharing the passwords would be wrong. Currently, Danikine can attempt diplomacy on the 2 players playing France and England, hoping to get one to turn on the other. If its the same person playing both, then thats no longer true.

@dingle - absolutely agreed. that's why we were trying to end this thread (since it's not going to happen) and make the new thread about stalemates (or perceived stalemates lol ;) )

If several years pass with no movement and it is obviously a stalemate then you ought to accept the draw.

My apologizes djbent.

i replied with a very long post but only a fwe lines were edited...

I have to disagree with those who say it is okay for a player in a game to submit orders for another country. There is no provision in the rules of Diplomacy for that to happen. None. Each player plays one country only, and if a player cannot submit his own orders, the country's units do not move, according to the rules. Period. We allow a sitter from outside the game, but that doesn't violate the rules or the spirit of the game. One player submitting orders for two countries violates both.

I think this is wrong also. Essentially it is multi-accounting. Game sitters should come from outside the game IMHO.