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armageddon (100 D)
15 Jun 08 UTC
new game- blitzkrieg-3
come and get yer ass kicked
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
14 Jun 08 UTC
More wannabe Mapleleaf's!
There's a guy called mapleleafrulz (ID 6197)...
after the mapleleafisacnt, there seems to be another of the mapleleaf series!
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Rumpole (100 D)
13 Jun 08 UTC
Lawyers
I am an advocate and I thought it would be nice to hold a game exclusively for lawyers. Anyone interested?
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anlari (8640 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
Wikipedia Article 'Internet Diplomacy'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Diplomacy

I thought it would be a good idea to move this into a separate thread. We should start paying more attention to the wikipedia article to make sure that it reflects us correctly.

The current article about phpdiplomacy on Wikipedia is not too bad, however it could be better and more comprehensive to make sure that the developers here are sufficiently credited for their work, especially considering attempts to portray things incorrectly by others (cough.. playdiplomacy)

I have a few points:

a) Is there anyone with a senior position as a contributor in Wikipedia and/or experience with writing articles there among us?

b) We should stress the point that phpdiplomacy is based on work of volunteer coders from the community and completely free

c) We should list all of the current forks of phpdiplomacy, not just the Facebook version.

d) We should see if we can say more about the unique community here as well as the features.

e) Perhaps more details as to the reason Kestas stopped coding for? Objectively, of course.
Feckless Clod (777 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
I have some experience of writing for Wikipedia. I gave up after they decided that my ip was a proxy (it isn't) but I'll be happy to look over any contributions and post suggestions here.
q93 (373 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
That's how I found this site. I haven't played this since School (20yrs ago). Thought it would be a cool game to buy for the family, but couldn't remember who was the manufacturer.
anlari (8640 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
http://www.dipwiki.com/index.php?title=Web_Sites

I also found this diplomacy wiki, we might want to get our site added there too.
Chrispminis (916 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
This is definitely a big thing, because I think that Wikipedia is a major contributor of new blood to this site. That, Google, and StumbleUpon. I would also urge phpDip fans to contribute positive reviews to StumbleUpon that genuinely reflect their opinion of this site.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Jun 08 UTC
Just a heads up: It's considered bad form to contribute to articles which you have a vested interest in, especially if you're clearly editing it to better promote yourself. It'd be a shame if the site got a bad reputation for being caught doing something of that nature.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
I agree with the above. Stating truths is fine, and we are best placed to do so, however do not advertise the site.
anlari (8640 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
Yes, I agree

Though pretty much everything I saw on wikipedia goes against that since people who know about the subject are likely to have interest in it - especially in political situations.

In this case, if we do not put in our share, it seems the owner of playdiplomacy.com will do it for us..
Noirin (2827 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
I'd still suggest we try to be as objective as possible. Let him try to shape wikipedia to do what he likes, entries can be fixed if he states the false or plainly advertises himself, and he'll just get damage in the long run.
aum (602 D)
13 Jun 08 UTC
I, for one, found this site via Wikipedia. Vested interest or not, I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing out the indisputable fact that playdiplomacy.com copied their code from phpDiplomacy and that Kestas had it done first. That would be stating the hard truth of the matter.
anlari (8640 D)
13 Jun 08 UTC
Okay, let's put words into actions - Any volunteers to write a new, objective paragraph that contains the points listed in the start of the thread? I suggest that it is posted here first and we discuss though
kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
13 Jun 08 UTC
If you look through the history you'll notice that it was a total mess until I edited it a few weeks back. Since then I've been trying to maintain its objectivity but now people are constantly adding in new parts and taking out the parts that advertise the competing sites

This is the main reasoning behind the edits I made before, and it's what I want people to maintain: "It's silly seeing how "blarDiplo is the first to do this, the best at this, got the most of this, and is much more popular than asdfDiplo". I tried to remove anything where a description was comparing itself to other sites, giving opinion on itself, praising its own features, etc. I think the site blocks should do nothing except describe the site's features, and not refer to any records it claims to break or other software it claims to be better than" (from the discussion page)

So just try and keep things related to hard facts about what sites have, without any value judgements or comparisons to other sites. I think that's the only way things can be kept fair and non-biased
anlari (8640 D)
13 Jun 08 UTC
True
canute (0 DX)
14 Jun 08 UTC
i found this by being recommended it, from a player on here.. forgot who it was now, sorry...
I was on Dipbounced and we were playing together and played as allies(France and Italy...me France and he Italy). Which we then went on to win. I shall look at press on that site but theres over 200 to sort thru, but i do want to mention the pseron who pointed me here, as its a great site....
Google was not the best way for me to find dip sites.

It tends to bunch useless sites with games.. very difficult.
Kristopher (100 D)
14 Jun 08 UTC
Yah I found this site through Wikipedia as well. Just now I went in there and chopped out some blatantly self-promoting language from the PLAYdiplomacy entry (i.e. "for more experienced players", etc). While I was at it, I also went ahead and added an entry for the version I'm working on, since we're getting fairly close to beta release. As such, I was also pleased to remove the line in the PLAYdiplomacy entry boasting that it's the "newest" incarnation.

I'm all for healthy competition, but I don't like some of the sleazy tactics I've seen the PLAYdiplomacy folks use in promoting their site on Wikipedia, including attempting to denegrate other competing entries.
Chrispminis (916 D)
14 Jun 08 UTC
Wikipedia is always a battleground...

If I were to edit it (which I wouldn't as I've said before) I would emphasize the mandate of phpDiplomacy. That is to say, that phpDip was designed and programmed with the idea of being intuitive and user-friendly, and with a completely visual display of orders so that new and experienced players alike can enjoy the game without having to deal with the more cumbersome nomenclature, etc. Obviously, to remain objective, no mention of whether phpDip has succeeded in this mandate would be added, though I certainly do believe that it has.


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Blackheath Wanderer (0 DX)
12 Jun 08 UTC
To travel boycott or not
If a country has a regime with which you have an ethical difficulty, is it better not to travel to that country or to go and engage with local people?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
13 Jun 08 UTC
How do I join League game B-1, was sent a link, clicked it, now what?
Basically, what the subject says.
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Zarathustra (3672 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
Minor Powers and Civil Disorder
Lately, I have been getting really ticked when someone takes over a CD country that has like one or two SCs late game. its so annoying because at that point the player is either a multi-accounter or joining just to screw over one of the other players because they can't really hope to win or even make a significant showing. Is there anything that can be done about that?
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Chairman Mao (340 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
Is it ok to give away your own SCs to allies?
Well, I am not pointing at anyone here, nor any specific game, but I would like to see some discussion on this:

Is it ok for a nation to give away some of his own SCs to an ally?
The situation I am in is as followed:
- France is on the verge of winning
- France promised England to get him 10+ SCs by the end of game
- England has no ability to get any more SCs from his opponent (i.e. Me, Turkey) unless he takes from France
- Instead of winning, France is taking stuff off his opponent, and giving off stuff from his back
- By doing so, France is delaying what is supposed to be a victory
- Is this similar to positioning yourself for 24 SCs to win in a PPSC game?

Perhaps this is right, perhaps this is wrong, but I want to know everyone's opinion on this. No strong comments...purely a discussion
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Sicarius (673 D)
10 Jun 08 UTC
to all republicans
I'll see you at the RNC

good luck
;)
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warrenthegreat (147 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
There is luck in Diplomacy
It's called luck of the opponent.
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zestythelemon (950 D)
13 Jun 08 UTC
Continental Breakfast II
That's right, folks. Continental Breakfast is back in its first sequel. Cost to join is 20, plus you have to bring a breakfast food appropriate to the country you get assigned. PPSC.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4297
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Katsarephat (100 D)
13 Jun 08 UTC
Orders not processed?
In "Revolution is no excuse for CD", I could swear I had entered orders for England (specifically, I'd wanted to snatch Spain from France, among other things) in Autumn whatever-year-we're-currently-on Diplomacy. It's now Autumn Retreats and my orders didn't get processed. Luckily I don't need to enter any retreats.

Anyone know why this might have occurred? (It is possible, though highly unlikely, that I just never finalized and took no notice of the alert on the top of my screen telling me to act...)
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Kristopher (100 D)
13 Jun 08 UTC
Thomas Jefferson fornicated with ducks and goats.
Yes, it's true....


Join for 100 points!

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4292
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
07 Jun 08 UTC
Dear Mr. Llama. Subject: League B
There are now seven people who wish to start the League B.

Please start a game WTA 15 pot on Thursday, as one player will be without internet until then. Please use a password and email the joining link to each of the players at their email addresses (in reply):
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Treefarn (6094 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
New Game - 200 bet PPS
Come join!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4275

Called 'Big Money No Whammies"
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cteno4 (100 D)
13 Jun 08 UTC
Two more players needed - "75 Buy-In"
And a question for y'all:

What happens if fewer than seven people join a game?
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jpchewy01 (100 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
New game
Hey guys! Join the new game:
a noob game
the bet is 5 points
thanks!
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FamedPunnisher (100 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
New Game
Join this new game so we can Get goin
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Withnail160 (1204 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
LOST
Im embarrassed to say that (until recently) I have been an avid fan of LOST - it panders to my interest in puzzles

I would love to hear opinions of the phpdip community on the programme...what are your thoughts?
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fwancophile (164 D)
11 Jun 08 UTC
neutral question
i may have run up against a rule i wasn't familiar with, or some derivative of the old self-dislodgement rule. what would be the result if there is a unit in a territory ordered to attack another, and you know the attack fails. in addition, a hostile country orders a supported unit to this territory, but you also order another supported unit into this territory?
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Marty (100 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
all for one
my 1st game, anyone wanna join me?
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fastspawn (1625 D)
09 Jun 08 UTC
My thoughts on ethics and the game
Since I have some time on the side, I am just for the hell of it writing this down
1. It is said that in order to successfully play this game, one has to make two lies at least.
2. In most ethical situations lying is a no-no. Especially if the lying leads to pure self-benefit (i.e. winning the game, making the other lose it)
3. The other option is meta-gaming (i.e. making a deal with another player over several games to share victories. Against phpdiplomacy rules)
4. Hence, it is said to be impossible to be ethical and still win diplomacy.

My reply below will be my thoughts on this.
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jakethesnake (1112 D)
10 Jun 08 UTC
convoy cutting support
Shouldn't a failed convoy cut support the sameway a normal move would? in this case, i'm france, and was convoying to london. Still, London was able to suppurt edi to the north sea and boot germany out. is this a mistake, or do convoys not cut support?

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4050&msgCountry=Germany
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fraushai (1781 D)
12 Jun 08 UTC
(RTC) Lt. Crackers
I believe that someone suggested banning (RTC) Lt. Crackers (See 'Hall of Fame') a while ago - why isn't he removed?
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Treefarn (6094 D)
07 Jun 08 UTC
Points inflation and veteran players
I know this subject has been talked about ad nauseum, but I'm suprised at the number of veteran players who, when they know a game is ending, bring their point totals down to zero so they can get a free 100 points. I understand why new members do this, but I'm surprised that veterans do as well.

I suppose expecting diplomacy players to be 'ethical' is an oxymoron.
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Stevelers (3084 D(G))
10 Jun 08 UTC
Problem with taking over CD country.
In the game: "Gravemakers&Gunslingers", I took over for Russia which was in CD. However, I can't open the game, for some reason... It says there is an error, dealing with "orders which have been completed, but should not be". That's what it says, at least... I don't have any orders to fill right now, so no big rush on getting this fixed, or anything.

Sorry, I can't provide the link to the game, seeing as how I can't open the game...
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freakflag (690 D)
09 Jun 08 UTC
Skipping worthless phases
Currently in final hours, we are in a retreat phase. England is the only country that has a unit that was dislodged, and that unit cannot retreat. I was wondering if something could added to the to-do list to prevent the delay of waiting until the player submits that he is doing the only available option.
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keeper0018 (100 D)
06 Jun 08 UTC
Where I disappeared to...
hey all, i know that i kind of took off suddenly from the site about a month ago, so i just wanted to let everyone know where i went. i got grounded from all communication indefinitely (hey, im only 14), so i could not go on the computer. I am sorry about all of the games that i left in CD, but i had no choice, and im sure that the people that took them over didnt mind! i am posting this now from school, the only time i can get on the computer. do not fret, though; i have a feeling that sometime within the next month or two i will be acquitted for my offense, and i will be back to kicking arse in no time. adu for now.

Nick (keeper0018)
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Kent C. Tugood (483 D)
11 Jun 08 UTC
Joining a Private Game
Never done it before, but a bunch of gents from a Browser Based game wished to play a private foray. But I haven't a hot clue where to find it. Any pointers?
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sundwn (0 DX)
09 Jun 08 UTC
Draw Request - ww3
All 3 parties have agreed to the draw. The game link is below:

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3930

They will publicly agree as a reply to this message I am sure.
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