hey oziodip. I'll play a private game with you some time. round up 5 others!

thank you mahatma :)
the fact is that it's ok to lose, but not in this (not fair) way :(
how can i know if a moderator will make something? and what can he do? thank you :)

jaykyburz: i'm very sorry but i don't understand the expression "round up 5 others" :P what you mean?

get 5 more players. metagaming is a slippy slope. i know him to he is my friend to i can trust him more than a complete stranger to we know that in any new game that we play that we make good allies to boom! prefixed alliances and metagaming. multigaming is a lot more cut and dry.

I'm not sure what you just said Sean, but i think you just accused yourself of cheating :S

i will not finalize... i will try to keep the game going as far as i can...but...will someone check if this situation is correct?

Again this topic :S
We all already explain that we are different players.
No I am not ally to Germany neither with You oziodip.
I've been attacked by German and you keep going with your units to my borders, what do you expect? Support?
Ofc I move my units to that border to defend.
Im not going to make my moves according to your needs.
YOu sent a bunch of messages telling me what moves I should make.
I don't want to make your moves. I want to decide myself. OK?!?
Make you're moves, I make mines.

figlesquidge:() i was just saying that multi accounting is quite obviously wrong but metagaming can be a slippery slope. I used "i" in the previous post but i was using that as an example of a accused metagamming individual thought process evolution. not me mine I!
in clearer terms i meant
jack knows jill
that can lead to
jack being friends with jill
leads to
jack trusting jill more than john whom he doesnt know
leads to
jack always trusting jill
and then VIOLA (the word not the player ok) metagaming is born
it is wrong but i think meta gamers need reeducation to rectify their behavior.
multi accounters just need banning!

might also lead to jack gettin' some! (sorry thought i better put in some gutter humor to reward those that read this far)

We know each other. But that really doesn't mean that we are all together in the game. I used turkey help to get russia down (which also accused us to be the same person). Also used italy help to get austria and now turkey. Then I had to take one of his SC.
Use France help to get england, and now I'm going after his SC.
I think that this is the all point of the game... alliances, PNA, backstabing... to win! Apparently I'm wrong...

Whatever... I ask any admin to just kill that game. I'm over with this!

And answering sean... I understand that line of thought, but here it is not the case.
I take particular enjoyment to backstab them! :)

@enigma:
you are telling lies.
you asked why i moved from tunisi tu west med, i told you (again) that is only because if germany move from bur to gas i will be there to bounce him afwer in spain
he didn't move but he moved an army to piedmont
then you asked me again why i have a fleet in west med, i told you why and i add the fact that now i will move to gulf of lyion to help marseilles and dont' worry i will not move to spain.

you moved a fleet to MAO, rightm, but you can see that my fleet moved to gulf of lyon so i'm really not attacking you....

but then what you do?!

unbelivably you moved out from paris (letting germany entering in it) and movet from mao to West med...
but..hey.. if i want to backstab you i can take spain the previous turn...
so why you think i'm dangerous?
and
WHY YOU MOVED OUT from paris the same turn he entered in it?

the fact is not that you don't listen to my suggestion..the fact is that when you have paris, pic and bur you can held it...but you forget to support it...

ok

then again in england.... mm you are very distract....

but ok....

but why when you have the proof i'm not attacking you in spain but i'm going to help you in marseilles...
you continue to move against me?!

why?

this is only a complicated way to try to say this is not metagaming...but the fact is that i did'nt attack you... you can realize it in time but you continue to make GIFTS to germany...

@satao: it' unbelivable that you, france and italy...registered in the same days to phpdiplomacy, playing a lot of games togheter...never attacking one each other in this game where i play... and now? france go out from paris ith you near paris? and what you do? you move to paris! this is coincidence?
and what france do with me that never attacked him?
he starts to move againse me...while giving you SC!

coincidence?

@satao say: "I take particular enjoyment to backstab them"
you concretely attacked italy and france only now in the whole game! so this is not true...

and last @enigma: when i told you i will move next turn from tunisi to west, going to help you if needed in future...you don't say: no! wait! i want west med dmz! no! you accepted! .. and now you say it's my fault?! lol
the fact is that you are metagamers...but you have to do it in a way that you can always say it's not true...but what speak are the moves in the board...not your words...

(you seems a politician... in italy we have Berlusconi who make things... then says he never make nothing .. )

I do not make moves or alliances to make you all warm and fuzzy inside. You are the one with more SC and quite close to win the game.
I am also playing more games with them, but because of this whining it is password protected.
You can attack whatever you want, my game has ended. I can retreat to make your life easier...
And do not worry, you will not get any more game with me.

(enigma just write me in game...and what i see? you also logged in and write in the forum! lol :D)

you do what you want... i don't belive to you, enigma and poweron...sorry

Sorry man.....
do doubt you are getting addicted..... You will die soon if you do not care care of that ;)

Get a life man. this is a game not real life. chill out.
End the damn game I don't care anymore, tired of your whine.

:D
Sent from: poweron (90 ) Sent: 07:16 PM
Sent from: EnigmaMV (67 ) Sent: 07:16 PM

:D again at the same time :)
(ps i played few games, i never post in this forum.... i post only when i see something not correct, i'm not addicted... and i think metagamers must get a life :) bye bye )

Actually, i dropped out of that game because of your multi accounts, as mentioned in the earlier thread, and you got yourself confused by referring to messages sent to one account as if they were sent to your other one mr. satao/poweron/enigmamv
If having to play 3 countries is what you need to do to win, I only pity you.

Kestas, I am sorry to bother you; I know you are very busy between your real life, your real job, maintaining this site, and developing the improvements for the next version. But Razz's post reminded me that there have been ongoing issues with these three players and I would appreciate it if you could weigh in on this issue. Thanks.

@el_perro

poweron
EnigmaMV
Satao

(in the game linked poweron is just defeated)

oziodip, depsite you backstabbed me, I support your side. It is too obvious that the 3 countries are either multis or are metagaming. They have little defense between themselves. Why? Because they have a real life relationship(friend/partner, whatever, or perhaps same person)!!!