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peterlund (1310 D(G))
10 Nov 16 UTC
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The reputation of the USA in the world (cont)
I am sad to remind you, but do you remember my posting Oct 4?
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
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I had a fairly ordinary day at work
Maybe I should post a thread about this.
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Merirosvo (302 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
CGP Grey's Followup Video on the Electoral College
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3wLQz-LgrM
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JEccles (421 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
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Mods Check E-mail Please
Could you please check e-mail soon? A slightly urgent request. Thanks.
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brainbomb (290 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
Pokemon GO taking the world over
Holy cow, pokemon is so popular. Who would have imagined that pokemon would be trending so high even in november.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Nov 16 UTC
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The Sun Still Rose This Morning
Just a friendly reminder that the world has not ended.
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
11 Nov 16 UTC
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Cigars
I've gotten into cigars in the last 6 months

Any afficiandos here?
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What's up with that ? No one is interested in that.
I feel like most of you guys like lurking more on the forum and talking about politix and crap than actually playing the game. And this was even before the big election thing.
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brainbomb (290 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
Whiskey
This thread is to discuss the finest bourbons, whiskeys, and scotch. Post your experience here, and discuss.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
09 Nov 16 UTC
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help
any aussies or canadians interested in helping a mate migrate out of the US?
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KingCyrus (511 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARINE CORPS
A Happy Birthday to all our Marines.
Hoo, yut, kill.
Semper Fidelis.
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brainbomb (290 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
I saw a dead bird on campus today
It made me pretty uncomfortable sitting on the bench near it. It was a red cardinal
I wonder why it died, and if marxism had something to do with it. I decided to sit inside instead and listen to some modest mouse.
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Fluminator (1500 D)
09 Nov 16 UTC
5 Stages of Grief
Let's go through the 5 stages together.
Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance
We can spend one day on each.
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tvrocks (388 D)
08 Nov 16 UTC
.9 repeating doesn't equal 1
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ND (879 D)
08 Nov 16 UTC
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Donald Trump Victory Party
#MAGA
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Tazo101 (129 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
Favourite albums?
So like all this politics chat aside, how's everyone doing? What are some good albums to listen to?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
10 Nov 16 UTC
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Nicest thing i've heard all day
Bernie Sanders message on facebook: "Donald Trump tapped into the anger of a declining middle class that is sick and tired of establishment economics, establishment politics and the establishment media. People are tired... [see more inside]
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Condescension (10 D)
09 Nov 16 UTC
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I blame Abraham Lincoln
He screwed over the south's economy without granting them an alternative, devastated their homeland and subjugated them to the union. There's no coincidence that these people's descendants elected Trump today. They have been disenfranchised and alienated and economically subjugate since before 1860. We are paying for the sins of our fathers.

The union should've bought the slaves' freedom the same way Britain did.
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Andersbearman (391 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
We need players please
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=185328
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peterlund (1310 D(G))
01 Nov 16 UTC
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Vote Hillary - the sane choice
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Ogion (3882 D)
09 Nov 16 UTC
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Clinton wins popular vote
Yet again, the will of the voters is denied. Republican gets fewer votes for the house, senate or presidency yet control all three. Yes, it is rigged
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Zine (10 DX)
09 Nov 16 UTC
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We've just elected a man who has groped women and stiffed workers.
Think about what we've done.

Clearly we do not hold and judge Trump to the same standards as we would hold our friends, our families and our co-workers.
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Lethologica (203 D)
09 Nov 16 UTC
James, while I agree that the Dems were not innocent, that sounds less like "this 'shift' barely occurred" and more like "the Southern Strategy came to fruition with the Reagan coalition."
JamesYanik (548 D)
09 Nov 16 UTC
@lethologica

for the Republicans, the shift didn't occur in policy, only in voter base. policy shift came later, when they tried to consolidate votes.

and actually, I think the republicans were much more stupid during this time period than the Democrats. purely in their decision making, i mean
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
09 Nov 16 UTC
So does this election signal some sort of Northern Strategy?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Nov 16 UTC
I was thinking it was more East/Central/West than North/South.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Nov 16 UTC
Though a more nuanced version would be to split NE, SE, and the Upper Midwest.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
09 Nov 16 UTC
For those of you who are hanging your hat on the peg that Clinton won the popular vote, take away Los Angeles County from the numbers and Trump won the popular vote by over two million. And we know who lives in Los Angeles County (besides me).
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Nov 16 UTC
Yeah, sure, and if you take away Cook County, the five boroughs of NYC, and all the other densely populated places, Clinton would have had like 10 votes. That's not how it works, though.
JamesYanik (548 D)
09 Nov 16 UTC
@Chaqa

Michigan and Pennsylvania... it's weird. the Unions failed the Democrats, otherwise she'd have nearly one this one. If anything, this is signifying the Democrats losing their foothold. That said, this was a pathetic turnout for them, and the Republicans won't be able to get away with this again. He won with fewer votes than what Romney got.

That said, 2020 we might see another Libertarian bid. GJ was on every ballot, and he was on every forecast. People never heard his message until the end: NOW... they might be looking for an alternative right off the bat.

but in reality, it's not like politics just undertook a revolution or anything in this country.
krellin (80 DX)
09 Nov 16 UTC
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"the Unions failed the Democrats,

WRONG -- Democrats have failed the Unions. Get it straight. Yo uact like the PEOPLE owe something to the Party!!? WTF?
JamesYanik (548 D)
09 Nov 16 UTC
@krellin

the unions, which are mostly controlled by democrats, weren't able to mobilize support for Clinton to fit the Democrat Party's needs.

that's what i meant, the connotation of "fail" was bad
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
09 Nov 16 UTC
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Unions don't serve the people. Private unions are nearly non-existent. Government unions work to keep elected officials under their thumb. Modern unions undermine the very reason that unions were formed in the first place.
peterwiggin (15158 D)
09 Nov 16 UTC
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Wait, who else lives in Los Angeles County?
Fluminator (1500 D)
09 Nov 16 UTC
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I take little joy in this election result. I do not trust Trump one bit. However, I completely understand why he won. I don’t think it’s entirely (or even mostly) because of racism, sexism, or xenophobia, or any other ism or phobia.
Part of it is urban vs. rural. Obama seemed to do well in the city, and Hillary probably would have done decently. But in the country, they did roughly nothing. The rate of businesses being established is all in the cities. For a long time, the rural areas were in desperate need for help, and they’ve been ignored in favor of the cities.
Obama never seemed to care (or that was the perception, and the perception is what is important) Clinton also didn’t give the impression she cared either. Trump gave the impression he cared. Whether he does or not we will find out, but at least he pretended like he cared. To those rural people, the “elites” who “lorded” over them are now enraged and downcast while the “champion of the everyday worker” is the winner. I can understand why they’d hope for a Trump presidency.

And, speaking as a white middle-class male, I can understand the appeal of some of Trump’s rhetoric. Government power and bureaucracy is increasing, lobbying groups gained tons of influence, power is becoming more concentrated. Trump’s promise to smash it is tempting. Clinton’s campaign (whether she’s a good person or not) reeked of the exact same corruption Trump was promising to destroy. Clinton has a record of a war hawk in many places such as Libya, and recently Russia. Meanwhile Trump has promised more to focus on America itself, and be a bit more isolationist. Some of his statements on nukes and torture are terrifying, but there is no denying Clinton’s track record of dealing with foreign nations is dismal. And people are especially getting antsy at how she is handling the Russian problem.

It’s probably going to suck for minorities. Maybe not because of Trump, but because the culture of some of the more obnoxious Trump supporters will be more free to reign now. But if you think about it, it’s not hard to understand where the resentment of minorities has come from. (whether or not it’s condonable) A lot of people have had the shit kicked out of them by the system. Towns got shattered, they’re stuck working 8$ an hour to support their families. And every time they reach out for help, the “liberal elites” came out of clubs marked “MINORITIES” and beat them back down saying, “Stop complaining. Black people/ gay people/ etc. have it much worse. Check your privilege shitlord.”
It turns out, this doesn’t convince people to put their heads down and deal with it. It just builds up resentment. There are blue collar folks who work for a living and have very little, if anything, leftover after all the bills are paid. And when a truck driver or construction worker from north east Pennsylvania hears some bratty, self-righteous college kid inform him of his “privilege,” he tends to roll his eyes and ignore everything else they say.

I have no faith in Trump’s character, or his ability to run a country. But I understand why people would rally behind him. I completely understand why people wouldn’t support Clinton. And I hope Trump keeps some of the promises he made. If he follows through with his victory speech saying he intends to help every single American, things might not be terrible in the long run. I hope he makes Washington D.C. more transparent and trustworthy. I hope the GOP and DNC gets their shit together. I hope women and minorities get through without any of their rights or protections being gutted.
I say all this as a white middle-class university student in Canada, so take that into account. I've got a pretty comfortable seat still to analyze things. It's possible that I'm completely full of shit. But frankly, a lot of the problems that lead to Trump getting such support were not going to get solved by Clinton, and they'd just get worse if they'd been left to fester.
Lethologica (203 D)
09 Nov 16 UTC
@Chaqa:
"So does this election signal some sort of Northern Strategy?"

Not specific enough. Trump's play was for labor, especially men working in industry out of high school. Call it a Midwest Strategy. Look at the demographic breakdowns, and note the gaps for gender, education, and union membership:

http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/original-size/images/2016/11/blogs/graphic-detail/20161112_woc961_0.png

@CAPT Brad:
"And we know who lives in Los Angeles County (besides me)."

Dog-whistle, or beating the voter fraud drum without evidence? Either way, not a good look.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
09 Nov 16 UTC
yes flum, you are FOS!
Lethologica (203 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
Well, don't stop there, Brad. Do feel free to explain your perspective.
Lethologica (203 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
Also, unrelatedly, another useful chart (middle of the article):
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-missed-trump-we-asked-pollsters-why/
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
10 Nov 16 UTC
no, just as a canadian, your analysis of america is insignificant when you compare it to the massive numbers of canadians who continue to stream to the united states rather than to live in canada. that speaks for itself.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
10 Nov 16 UTC
People from Canada often move to the United States, so Canada is illegitimate?
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
10 Nov 16 UTC
well bo, is that your opinion of canada? perhaps too many of them settle in Mass for your liking
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
10 Nov 16 UTC
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...what
krellin (80 DX)
10 Nov 16 UTC
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"the unions, which are mostly controlled by democrats, weren't able to mobilize support for Clinton to fit the Democrat Party's needs."

You still don't get it, do you? The UNIONS ARE PEOPLE. It's hillarious that you don't get this...The UNIONS "failed" the Democrats? No....THE FUCKIING DEMOCRATS FAILED THE UNIONS.....WHICH IS WHY THE UNIONS DID NOT SUPPORT HILLARY.

What the hell is so hard to get about this? You seem to think that the fucking Unions OWE their loyalty....NO NO NO NO NO NO...

The fucking governemnt is supposed to SERVE US....not the other way around. And GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED the American people AND "The Unions" which....wait for it.....ARE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

So the Unions intelligently failed to provide the support the the Dmocrats.

It STARTED with the Democrats failing the Unions.
Fluminator (1500 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
@Capt Brad, considering the Canadian immigration site broke down due to traffic, I think you have the direction of the moving stream backwards.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
10 Nov 16 UTC
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Written by a diplomacy player.
http://wpo.st/I0xC2


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ND (879 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
California Secession?
http://www.inquisitr.com/3697790/california-secession-movement-begins-calexit-trends-on-social-media-will-the-golden-state-secede/
+nationwide protests and calls for secession from U.S. due to Trump.
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DammmmDaniel (100 D)
09 Nov 16 UTC
ADs for NOT live Games
I couldn't find the thread for games that weren't live so here is a game people should join! gameID=185221
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Hannibal76 (100 D(B))
09 Nov 16 UTC
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To everyone in the forum blowing Hillary
Your love for Hillary is astounding. You people honestly believe that you're more intelligent than Trump supporters? Your dumb stupid naive childish retarded minds were exposed the moment you fuckers failed the incorruptible, never-took-a-dollar-from-corporations, stood for gay rights when it was unpopular, voted against wars when they were popular Bernie Sanders.
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
08 Nov 16 UTC
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Gary Johnson Victory Party
POTUS dudes. Fuh fuh fuh fuh.
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krellin (80 DX)
09 Nov 16 UTC
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Krellin victory party
Because I infect all your minds once you've been subjected to me.

Love me, hate me, never without me.
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
08 Nov 16 UTC
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Queen Elizabeth II Victory Party
POTUS subjects! #MakeAmericaGreatBritainAgain
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Mar 16 UTC
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webDip Player Map
Use the webDip Player Map to help organize F2F games/tournaments or to see peanuts near you. Post here with your City and Color Preference to be added to the map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zkz1OHicklqk.ky67Va8gNVi0
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Unranked games
Do they count on your profile and ghostrating?
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