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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Jul 13 UTC
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Fukushima Chief Masao Yoshida Dies
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/09/masao-yoshida-dead_n_3565387.html

Can't say there's many that did braver things than what they did in that plant. Amazing in the least. RIP
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brainbomb (290 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
Java Appalet version of diplomacy
I'm surprised given the popularity of live gunboat over the years that nobody has ever developed a live engine for it. Seems like constantly having to hit board buttons or refresh is outdated. This is not 2003. I also understand the difficulty in creating such a program.
Also seems like there should be a computer AI which takes over for CD countries and uses logic and math based forumula to make at least some semblence of moves.

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Invictus (240 D)
03 Jul 13 UTC
Looks like there's a coup going on in Egypt
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/03/19261466-supporters-of-egyptian-president-say-military-coup-is-underway?lite
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TAEHSAEN (0 DX)
08 Jul 13 UTC
Best Diplomacy Website
Hey guys, I was wondering what your most preferred Diplomacy website?
I am playing in playdiplomacyonline website as well but honestly I prefer this one more since it is more tactical and does not punish you for making wrong clicks.. What do you guys think?
krellin (80 DX)
08 Jul 13 UTC
<rolls yes....> Most of us prefer any other number of sites to this one....errrrr....
Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
08 Jul 13 UTC
Vdiplomacy.net has the best competition, bar none.
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
08 Jul 13 UTC
Isn't this kinda a weird question? The people who would answer you are the ones visiting the diplomacy site of their choice. Sure, there will be some who use multiple sites but that wouldn't be a big number.
Your answer would be biased because of the very population that will answer the question.

I mean if you ask, "What's the best pr0n site?" you might get better answers.
TAEHSAEN (0 DX)
08 Jul 13 UTC
wow.. vdiplomacy looks identical to webdiplomacy..

which came first?
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
08 Jul 13 UTC
Hi, my name is Vdip>Webdip. I am currently writing a symphony about the Congo, but my true hobby is to post threads that are self-referencing and for live games, go live live games go. My parents, TC and HC, do not approve of who I am because I try to change the world for the better and because I am liberal and educated (hence my 4.5 GPA and my symphony), but they love it when I drink unpretentious wine especially after I DDoS a new player on the site, who's bullshoi is he new. My friends and I like to get together on Fridays and have an org... organizational meet to play pacifist gunboat and to discuss the new pictures that PE has posted of us... taking shots while making threads about other threads including this one. Inevitably, one of us always gets so drunk that he would NMR or CD and post a cheating accusation about how gunboat is not real diplomacy.
If you have not realized it yet, I have been taking shots continuously due to my peak ghost-rating, and so if this does not make sense, feel free to create a google circle and throw epithets around.
Yonni (136 D(S))
08 Jul 13 UTC
Yeah, vdiplomacy or playdiplomacy is probably the best. The latter especially so because of their innovative implementation of the php diplomay engine but also their prettier maps and smarter revenue generating system. You really can't argue with the numbers - their customer base is much larger than this site's.
TAEHSAEN (0 DX)
08 Jul 13 UTC
Guys, but whats the difference between vdiplomacy and webdiplomacy?

The two sites look exactly the same and vdip constantly writes "webdiplomacy" all over the site...
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
08 Jul 13 UTC
They even have the same threads, I don't get the difference...
TAEHSAEN (0 DX)
08 Jul 13 UTC
webdiplomacy clearly has more members though....
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
08 Jul 13 UTC
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Kestas made the code for the site. He's a wonderful human being so he made it opensource. vDip and the other sites are using his code. The reason we have the most users is we were around first. vDip is like a playground for variants, and this site sticks with the classic map.
TAEHSAEN (0 DX)
08 Jul 13 UTC
Thanks for the reply.. that cleared everything up! :)
JECE (1248 D)
08 Jul 13 UTC
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TAEHSAEN: Yeah, there were a couple of earlier websites directly spun of by active WebDiplomacy users to test out and play variants. vDiplomacy is the most recent one and looks like it is here to stay.

And yes, the source-code of phpDiplomacy (which is what this site used to be called) has been used to create most of the other successful versions of Diplomacy, like the (evil) PLAYdiplomacy, Facebook Diplomacy and several implementations dedicated to other languages.

There are a couple that pre-date phpDiplomacy, and it shows. The oldest implementation is BOUNCED. Stabbeurfou is/was supposedly popular in tournaments.

Stick with webDiplomacy. I haven't played anywhere else and don't regret it.

Here is a list I have collected of Diplomacy implementations on websites dedicated to the purpose:

http://www.dipbounced.com/

http://diplomacy.denes.nl/

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/ http://www.webdiplomacy.net/ http://webdiplomacy.net/ http://95.211.128.12/webdiplomacy/

http://www.stabbeurfou.org/

http://www.playdiplomacy.com/

(http://www.worldleadersthegame.com/) http://www.conquestofnations.com/

http://droidippy.oort.se/

(http://dip.xbsd.kr/)

(http://goondip.com/)

http://olidip.net/ http://www.vdiplomacy.com/ http://www.vdiplomacy.net/

(http://www.cyberjuegos.com.es/webdiplomacy/) http://www.webdiplomacy.com.es/ http://www.webdiplo.com/

http://webdiplomacy.it/

http://diplomacy.s-website.de/

http://diplomail.ru/

​http://www.diplomaticcorp.com/

http://www.dip2000.com/
JECE (1248 D)
08 Jul 13 UTC
spun of --> spun off
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
08 Jul 13 UTC
krellin you should go play at diplomail.ru, I'm sure those Ruskies would love your sense of humor.
krellin (80 DX)
08 Jul 13 UTC
What sense of humor?
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
08 Jul 13 UTC
That one.
krellin (80 DX)
08 Jul 13 UTC
Don't make me tell you what I think of you.
krellin (80 DX)
08 Jul 13 UTC
This is the new, kinder gentler me.
peterwiggin (15158 D)
08 Jul 13 UTC
I actually prefer Bounced's interface for orders and press, their gameplay mechanics, and the richer options to any other site (I've also played on playdiplomacy). The one advantage webdip has is live games, but I can't seem to get those going these days. Unfortunately, nobody plays on Bounced anymore.
http://webdiplomacy.it looks good
http://lab.vdiplomacy.com/ also looks good

JECE (1248 D)
08 Jul 13 UTC
peterwiggin: I remember that I was once digging through their site and found all sorts of press options explained. They have more than here, like 'black press' or 'grey press' options. What other types of features do they have that aren't here? What is the order interface like?
peterwiggin (15158 D)
08 Jul 13 UTC
Key Points on Bounced:
1. Every game is started by a gamemaster, who creates the game, including the settings, and is in charge of replacing players who CD, investigating possible cheating, pausing and unpausing the game, etc. ALL GAMES ARE ANONYMOUS AND WTA.
2. Press settings: Broadcast press, partial press, or no press are allows. If press is allowed, any combination of white, grey, or black press can be allowed.
3. In general, when a player misses a turn, the game goes into a grace period. The duration of the grace periods are preset by the gamemaster. During the grace period, if the late player inputs orders, the game moves on. However, players missing orders cannot send press during grace, and cannot edit their orders once they are submitted.
4. Players who miss grace (or some other policy, usually outlined in the game description by the GM) are usually replaced. Replacement players are very easy to find because there are no NMRs (generally, the game pauses at the end of the grace period) and because of the rating system.
5. The order interface is completely text based. I find this easier to use because I know the abbreviations and syntax. There is a syntax checker as well as a "what-if" engine.
7. There are two rating systems. The Rank works much like GR, except that you donate none of your own ranking points when you replace another player. A new player starts with a committment of 90. His commitment is an average of the percentage of times you get your orders in before the deadline. It is weighted so that the distant past matters less (exponentially). The basic system is:
If you make a deadline: c = 0.95*c + 5
If you miss a deadline: c = 0.95*c
If you are replaced: c = 0.60*c
When creating a game, the GM can set a lower limit on reliability for players to join and both lower and/or upper limits on ranking.
**sings** If you can't be on /
The site you love/
Honey,
Love the site you're on.
TAEHSAEN (0 DX)
09 Jul 13 UTC
Thank you JECE that was very informative.. Yeah, I'll just stick to WebDiplomacy and PlayDiplomacyOnline..

But I stick to what I say, I've searched around several sites and this is my favorite one by far (especially since I am a new player so the text based order system in this game helped me stay error free! :D )
JECE (1248 D)
09 Jul 13 UTC
peterwiggin: It sounds like an interesting system. Text-based submission of orders just sounds annoying, although the 'syntax checker' must help the situation. I don't know enough to comment on the ranking systems or the grace period. Playing with a game-master is a matter of style, I suppose. I think it's more efficient not to use them, but a lot of the smaller sights seem to have a following because there is a game-master in every game. The rich press options should definitely be incorporated here.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
09 Jul 13 UTC
I'm curious how playdiplomacy punishes you for making wrong clicks as opposed to webdiplomacy.
Yonni (136 D(S))
09 Jul 13 UTC
Playdiplomacy's interface involves clicking on units/territories instead of drop down menus. It's incredibly frustrating to use sometimes - especially from a phone.


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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
09 Jul 13 UTC
Country draw
From what I understand, country draw is almost, but not quite, random. What calculation is used? It seems to me that this can be slightly problematic at times, especially when multiple games are started at the same time. The gunboat tournament where almost everybody drew 7g4c the first round seems logical suddenly.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
07 Jul 13 UTC
Subs for The Masters
2 subs needed for the Masters. I have two players who will be dropping out in one weeks time.
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
05 Jul 13 UTC
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2 week's notice
Hi all, I am about to begin my career starting August and will e moving my family and wanted to give you all a fond farewell. I don't know if I will return to the webdiplomacy community or not, but in 2 weeks I will at least leave the site for a long time. It's been good getting to know many of you.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
08 Jul 13 UTC
Why David Cameron is such a tw*t !!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/23225645
This is why our Prime MInister is such a tw*t. He intends the tennis final at Wimbledon and is now convinced that Andy Murray is the most deserving person of a knighthood ...... what a pathetic idiot !!
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
04 Jul 13 UTC
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Idea for an improvement, click +1 if you like it.
Here's an idea for adding a new element to Diplomacy games: "The Treaty".
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
08 Jul 13 UTC
Practical advice thread
So my rich and snooty Aunt is coming to visit my house, and I've just noticed it has a rather powerful "animal" smell from my stupid cats.

Fellow pet owners, I intend to clean, but what do you guys do to make sure the air doesn't have that unpleasant pet smell?
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Kangaroo kid (0 DX)
04 Jul 13 UTC
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United States Of America Celebrates Independence Day.
Happy fourth of July to all Americans over the world, and a special thanks to everyone who has fought for our freedom. God bless you.
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TBagJohn (243 D(B))
08 Jul 13 UTC
Test Out Moves Software
Is there some software (or functionality with this web interface) that would allow me to input various scenarios to see what would happen - i.e., to do some "what if" inputs before I submit final orders?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
07 Jul 13 UTC
Ridiculous Facts About Famous Folks Thread
The title...know something about a famous somebody that's so insane it can't be true...but it is?

Post it, and let us all behold what silly, silly people we hold up as the pinnacles of our species. :p
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tendmote (100 D(B))
08 Jul 13 UTC
Opinions on 2013 Ford Focus?
Anyone have any opinions on the latest Ford Focus, where "reasonable car at reasonable price" is considered "good"?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
08 Jul 13 UTC
Job Vacancy - as long as you can keep your head
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23215676
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
06 Jul 13 UTC
Meta-gaming and non-anon
Where is the line on this? It seems to me that were we all in the same room playing a board game, and then played the board game again you will automatically have predispositions about other players. It that wrong?
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
02 Jul 13 UTC
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EOG: Confederate Grand Ball #2
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Jul 13 UTC
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Soccer In Iran
This is what soccer in Iran is like. http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1492969/referee-beheaded-killing-player-brazil?cc=5901

Oh wait, that happened in Brazil.
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King Atom (100 D)
06 Jul 13 UTC
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It is Truly Sad...
...That you can't even go to a philharmonic without a majority of the songs being 'pop' oriented. On the other hand, I did get to see Miss America 2010 (who went to Massaponax High School, my school's second biggest rival) sing, however unprofessional she may be...
Perhaps I should have taken a more direct approach in starting this thread, but I wanted to get to the point that the concert was on the borderline between 'Amazing' and 'Disastrous.'
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ePICFAeYL (221 D)
06 Jul 13 UTC
Calvin Coolidge
I am not exactly sure who it is, but I know somebody in this forum is very obsessed with Mr. Coolidge.
I found this, and thought of whoever that person is.
http://onestophumour.com/picture-1974-best-comebacks-in-history-.html
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Hugo.Chaves (0 DX)
06 Jul 13 UTC
gameID=122589 Kmon Kmon Live Now
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
06 Jul 13 UTC
SIT A LIVE GAME FOR ME?
Starts in 5, something has come up. PM me if this is possible.
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Strauss (758 D)
29 Jun 13 UTC
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NSA, alleged naivety of European politicians, Obama...
It works everything surreally, but isn't a surprise either.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Jul 13 UTC
Draug Hates Nicholas Cage
Let's all punish him by playing in a no-moderators-needed invitational sponsored by the very amazing most awesome person around bo_sox48.
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Starside (10 DX)
06 Jul 13 UTC
Gamemaster - Please cancel game Bombs over Berlin
We are playing Bombs over Berlin. Turkey and Austria did not show for the first move. Please cancel the game so we can start with a full 7.
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Wizard_Of_Yendor (0 DX)
06 Jul 13 UTC
Could Use a Replacement for Europe
It's the first turn of a World game, and Europe got banned. Starting position, 1 day phases, small 10 point bet. gameID=121970
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Jul 13 UTC
Apple, Post-Jobs
Whether or not you like Apple products, you'd have a hard time arguing the Apple hasn't revolutionized the phone and computer industries over the last 5 years. Recently though, we've seen a lot of trends that are very unApple: products being released before they're ready (Maps) and seemingly random design changes. Is this the typically laziness that comes with being on top for too long, or is it a direct result of losing Jobs?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
03 Jul 13 UTC
Students Know Best
Student loans are about to double, Congress - of course - doesn't give a fuck and does nothing about it. Now they are double. But hey, who cares about Congress, they suck. Let's make these people our leaders because these students in Portland have a *brilliant* idea...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/education/in-oregon-a-plan-to-eliminate-tuition-and-loans-at-state-colleges.html?_r=1&
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Jasbrum (100 D)
27 Jun 13 UTC
Joy Division
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHYOXyy1ToI
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Mintyboy4 (100 D)
05 Jul 13 UTC
How does account sitting work?
How does account sitting work on this site? Do you mail the mods telling them when you're away and who you wish to sit you. Tell your password to that player, and that's it? Or is it more complicated than that.
I ask as I may need sitting in the near future, I'm going on holiday in a few weeks, and I don't wish to ask for a pause for over a weeks time.
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