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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
29 Jun 13 UTC
Pause error?
Two of my games just spontaneously went into pause without any of the players voting "pause". Is this happening to anyone else? Is there a bug?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
27 Jun 13 UTC
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Why is Obama loving the Gaylords.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23076294

Why is he doing it? Maybe he is a batty-boy himself !!
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
16 Apr 13 UTC
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MAD MARX GUNBOAT CHALLENGE
MadMarx is, without argument, the best player on this site. He claims to be bored, though, with his regular rotation of classic Diplomacy games. So why not try something new? I challenge you, MM, to a single game of gunboat with some of the top gunboaters on this site. You can have final approval over pot size, phase length, and the other players in the game. What do you say?
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
26 Jun 13 UTC
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DOMA struck down
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/news/supreme-court-strikes-down-doma-140330141.html
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rokakoma (19138 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
Gord & Uptibrew - EoG
I just kicked Barnett's, Lando's and Fairfax's ass :D :D

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rokakoma (19138 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
England:

My EoG will a little bit differ from my usual 'style', because I promised SoW students to write in a way that helps them understand the difference between moves and strategy, and why I think moves are not that important at all.

I will go year by year, so the reader can follow it on the map too ...

1901:
I got England, I hate it :). Nowadays I prefer southern opening, strongly anti-English, because it sends the message to Germany right away, I want to ally with him against France. That was exactly my plan here too. So I opened English Channel+Wales. I didn't risk bouncing Brest so I went to mid atlantic, hoping Germany will join me in my endeavour.

1902:
Germany bouncing Russia and building two armies showed he got the message. I was happy, so I sent my 2nd fleet towards Frnace and left North Sea empty, not to pose any threat towards Germany.

1903:
Germany crossed the red line, he has built a 3rd fleet, clearly stating he will not go against France, furthermore he was already at 7 SCs. So I immidiately put up my 'Draw' vote, signaling France, I'm changing my mind, and I took north sea and north atlantic, showing France, I cannot harm him at all.
Luckily France had much more understanding about the game and he took belgium, while I took both sweden and Holland. We basically crushed Germany in 1 single round. All because he has built a 3rd fleet.

1904:
From this point it was clear Germany is no longer a threat, it's just a matter of time until we finish him. So I started thinking about post-german times, what will happen after he's gone. Clearly my new enemy will be France, who has just built his 4th fleet, making him a hard nut to crack.
Anyway, we started fighting against germany, mainly for position rather then SCs. I knew I will take him over, he already had a huge positional disadvante against me.
None of us (F,G,E) built or disbanded anything. Just repositioned ourselves.

1905:
It was clear France will get 2 SCs, while I'd get none, so I had no other choice but to take 1 from him. I was hoping he won't get angry. But as I helped him, I felt it fair. Anyway, he was always cautius, his moves always indicated he is expecting my stab. I had no idea at this point how will I break him.
My 1st thought was, I can break him on mainland, since he has a ton of fleets, he's vulnerable on mainland. Luckily my white knight has arrived in the form of Italy. Italy got behind his lines, I knew it will cause some disturbance there, and that's my opportunity.

1906:
after builds I moved on him gently, because I was still busy with Germany, after careful planning I maintained my SC count, but I got into better position. Meanwhile Italy advanced as well. All that sad, this year was spent with complicated maneuvering.

1907: all that maneuvering resulted 2 builds for me, none for France.
More importantly I managed to spare my north sea unit, and take english channel. I was planning this all along, I knew it's critical to be there, but it was impossible to move there earliear.

--- !! ---
Also Russia finally retook his home SCs, meaning I had to make my decision at this point (yes at 9 SCs) which will be my 18th SC. If you want to have a solo, you have to know. There were two options, Warshaw or Tunis. Russia was packed with armies, without fleet building capabilities anywhere, pressuring Turkey, effectively, while both France and Italy were making their mistakes down in the Mediterranean. Also, there was 1 more important argument beside Tunis. If I let Russia grow, he will crush Turkey, which will result less fleets in the Mediterranean, which I desperately need, if I want to take Tunis.

This is important to see, this decision, and all the coming moves were done on this purpose.

1908:
I moved on France, I didn't make the slightest threat towards russia. More importantly, I didn't go or tried for Berlin by army. I wanted Russia to feel as comfortable as he can. So from this point, the main objective was, KILL ALL THE FLEETS!
I knew whenever I take a french SC he will disband a fleet, Russia will kill Turkish fleets (as it happened this year), so my only possible enemy is Italy. I have to prevent italy from getting builds. Luckily Russia also took an Italian SC, resulting no new fleets! Yeey! :)

1909:
I built a new fleet, and went against France full throttle, mainly on the seas. I knew, italy will not be able to hold mediterranean with only 3 fleets, therefore I basically won this game at this point. There were only 5 fleets possible fighting me. Assuming I can kill the French units anytime, it was only 3 really. There was no way they could have stopped me at this point. There's a stalemate line, which can be built with 3 fleets, italy was nowhere near.
All I had to do, was to secure Muniich+Berlin, as the stalemate line's northern part, the rest is only question of time.

By autumn I went into north Africa. This was the most critical move in the entire game(!) Seriously. From that point I knew I will easily take Tunis. There were still 4 french SCs, but who cares, those are sporadic, unable to cooperate, and I'm in mediterranean! Also, once I'm in north africa, no stalemate line exists which can be held with 3 fleets and 1 army. And Italy hadn't got a 5th unit.

1910:
3 builds. Time for the armies, which will secure the stalemate. It needed some planning how to convoy them properly, not risking losing anything and advancing more into the mediterranean.
My 2nd fleet got into the mediterranean, making it impossible for Italy to stalemate me, with 3 fleets, impossible.
Building up the stalemate line was a little bit time critical, but Russia was in no hurry, so I could do it comfortably, even more, I could take my 3rd fleet to mid-atlantic.

1911-1913:
From this point it was really just the matter of time, carefully planned moves, but basically the game was won by this time. The rest is history :)



A few general thoughts:
Except France, guys, what game were you playing at all? Russia was completely careless about the draw, he should have moved on me waaaaaay earlier, also he should have let Turkey live.
Italy was doing some really crazy stuff, I'm sorry to say Italy, but you are playing in a completely different league. Also attacking austria is stupid. You don't do that at this level. Not in the first years for sure. Sorry Barn3tt, I really admire you and your play, but this time, it wasn't you I think.
Turkey not building fleets made some sense in the early years, but I think that has led to his demise later as well. He was fighting for territories which he cannot hold. Complete waste of resorces. Bad judgement on building armies, because you cannot hold what you get with those! As it turned out to be true once again.
Germany, you had some good moves, but that 3rd fleet was a big mistake I think. I really enjoyed fighting around denmark and scandinavia :)
France, I'm sorry, you were the only one I really saw understanding what's happening on the board, you were cautious with me, and you planned your moves till the very end. I'm sorry, Italy and Russia just screwed all of you.
Jamiet99uk (865 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
As *England* you go for an "anti-English" opening?
ava2790 (232 D(S))
28 Jun 13 UTC
@jamie I think it was reverse psychology at work
rokakoma (19138 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
:D :D, hahaha, yeah, that meant to be anti-french
Barn3tt (41969 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
Roka, I think you're making some general statements that simply aren't true.

Italy can and sometimes should attack Austria. I wasn't planning on it, but saw Austria's opening as being either pro-Russian or just weak. I hit him and did quite well with it for some time. Russia and Turkey were not aligned and I hoped to form a strong Russian alliance and eliminate Turkey together. I did not expect Russia to attack my centers while Turkey, Germany and I believe England were hitting him.

I then abandoned the east as I fought off four French fleets. What was I supposed to do there? I feel lucky to have survived that and actually come out on top. Unfortunately, that left me crippled and in a weak position to resist.
rokakoma (19138 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
Sorry Barnett, maybe you are right. I just barely see a successful italy who attacks austria at the beginning. yet your ideas make sense I might have been hasty concluding that it was amistake.
Barn3tt (41969 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
A was impressed with Ava's survival in central Europe though. One of the most unusual occurrences I have ever seen in a gunboat game.
rokakoma (19138 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
I was hoping he survives and helps me against Germany it took some time but he actually did come back and helped me. It was hilarious to see what the heck he is doing down there :D without any home SCs at all :D
Good game. I made some mistakes myself in there. Was happy to be able to fend off roka's opening moves. I don't think the opening anti-france is a particularily strong one. But it worked out here as roka and I were able to quickly change directions when circumstances changed - a credit to good gunboatmanship.

I made a strong move south because I figured it was my best chance for my own solo chances. unfortunately Barnett was able to really defend me well - a credit to him.

Circumstances worked out in favour of England and he took good advantage. A well-earned win, congrats roka. I am happy to see you back, even if it comes at a cost to me in increased losses.
Barn3tt (41969 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
Yes, congrats to Roka and welcome back!

I am up for another one.
I am most amused that England never moved to Picardy the whole game, despite eliminating France.
Fairfax (1915 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
I didn't think you would react so strongly to me building a third fleet. I was trying to show you my friendly intentions by vacating Denmark and ending any threat on North Sea. I wanted to help you against France right next season, but I suppose I was too much of a threat at that point to be ignored. It was naive of me, I admit. Congrats for the win.
ava2790 (232 D(S))
28 Jun 13 UTC
For a long time in the game I was just fighting to survive. After Austria folded and Germany and Turkey took my home centers I decided to play as Austria. Then when Germany folded I took Warsaw and Moscow back but then I was fully against Turkey as he kept attacking me. I see now that the onus was on me to back off and ultimately should have let Italy keep a center or two in Austria. But when England exploded suddenly it was too late to change things. Good planning rokakoma.
rokakoma (19138 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
For the note: 1 have a exactly 20% (6/30) win ratio among classic wta gunboats over 1000 D and 50% (15/30) draw which is quite good I assume.


Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
28 Jun 13 UTC
just lucky! :P
rokakoma (19138 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
@Fairfax: the problem with the 3rd fleet is the very same as turkey having a 3rd fleet. Those fleets can ultimately go only one direction. West. No matter how friendly you are, at the end, those fleets must go west. I couldn't let that happen.

@Lando: yes, the opening is not strong, the purpose of the opening is to convince germany to team up. It's a risky opening. And for the note, I'm not back. I came to play 1 single game, "Last Call" the one got cancelled because of the server error.

I really enjoyed that one, I was England too, not taking Norway for 3 years! It was a great experience, yet it got cancelled right at the moment I got my 4th build there and had a clear path towards mid-atlantic. I was sooo angry at that time I joined this game when you invited me :)

@ava: thank, I planned a lot in this one to make you comfortable :)
rokakoma (19138 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
Sadly, I'm going back to retirement, I was just missing playing so much. But I played 2 already, both won, and I have to be away for a few months again. I have 1 more going on, I finish that one too, but I cannot join anymore :(

Hopefully from January I can be back for a longer period :) But it's good to see you guys, and play with you once again. I really enjoy these little mind games between us :)
2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
28 Jun 13 UTC
I'd like to get in as roka's replacement if you guys start a new game.
I'd join another game.
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
28 Jun 13 UTC
After 1901, having not taken the Black Sea, I had to build a 3rd army. Fleet Smyrna would have doomed me to Russia way early on, as I needed coverage of Armenia. When I got that 5th build finally off the convoy to Seva, I seriously considered building a second fleet. Probably should have. My reasoning at the time was that I wanted to let Italy feel free to defend the West from an increasingly strong England that would only get stronger, seeing what roka laid out. But Barnett had other thoughts unfortunately. Great run rokakoma!
rokakoma (19138 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
@y2kjbk, yes that's exactly what I meant when I wrote your armies made sense. But that 4th one was probably useless. Especially since france had 4 fleets by the time meaning he could have stopped me on the long run. Luckily he got into a fight with italy and italy payed very well at that time. I was happy you hadn't had more fleets :)

and thx :)


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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
24 Jun 13 UTC
China, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Ecuador--Snowden's Idea of a "Free State?"
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/snowden-washington-reaction-182004272.html "The freedom trail is not exactly China-Russia-Cuba-Venezuela" I have to agree...explain to me again how this guy's a symbol for freedom again (and again, do so WITHOUT saying "Well, the NSA was wrong--" YES. YES IT WAS. That does NOT mean this guy's good...really? Why pick those states, if he couldn't stand what the NSA was doing...they're not exactly Paradises of Government Transparency either...)
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
28 Jun 13 UTC
The Beginning of the End for Affirmative Action?
An interesting case came up in my research of the DOMA ruling that lays the groundwork for the nullification of all forms of racial preferences.

http://tinyurl.com/pzckk98
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matingara (100 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
I want to be a league Substitute Please
Hi! I have been here at WebDiplomacy since the start of the year. Have played a lot of fun games and have been doing OK. Someone suggested that league games were a lot more strategic and the "done thing" was to sign up via the forums. Can anyone help? Thanks.

Joel.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
27 Jun 13 UTC
Share your dream with me!
What is your dream in life? Which cloud do you follow?
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
Kids teased in schools
So in Holland, as in all other countries, there are kids teased in schools. The government has gone through great lengths to "protect them", a dangerous development if you ask me.
8 replies
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nudge (284 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
Rulers of Modern Diplomacy II
continuing my series, who are you playing, here are the rulers of modern diplomacy as at March 1, 1994
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
28 Jun 13 UTC
ALBERTA
Just out of curiousity, did the flooding register on American media?
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
28 Jun 13 UTC
Urgent Sitter or Replacement Needed
A member can't get onto the site because of flooding in his area. There is a world game (36 hour phases), and 2 Modern Varients (24 hour phases). Points to take over these positions will be provided. Reply or email [email protected] if interested
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Mapu (362 D)
26 Jun 13 UTC
Aaron Hernandez = so sad
A star pro athlete. Now charged with 1st degree murder. How hard is it to sit on your millions, enjoy your fiancee, baby, and career, and not do anything stupid?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Jun 13 UTC
NBA Draft
Anthony Bennett (who?) goes #1... and as Bonnie Tyler once said... WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD MEN GONE??!!!
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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
27 Jun 13 UTC
The Summer Road Trip
So how do you deal with "Are we there yet?"
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Jun 13 UTC
Ecuador
Seriously, the United States has gotten the finger from two tiny, hardly important nations in our typical affairs in the past week... this is awesome. All over one guy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/27/us-usa-security-ecuador-idUSBRE95Q0L820130627
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mlbone (112 D)
27 Jun 13 UTC
interest in a 17 player world gunboat tourney?
I was thinking anywhere from 5-8 games depending on the interest. 5 pts. 24 hour turns.

If interested, please pm me, and I can set up a tournament. This seems to be the only way to get rid of metas....
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LeonTrotsky (1188 D)
27 Jun 13 UTC
Need a new France! The game has not started yet
Hi, the France in this game got banned before he first move even went, and because France is such an important country, would someone please take over? The game is ruined without him especially at the beginning

gameID=121797
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redpanda (100 D)
27 Jun 13 UTC
What does "Canecel" mean?
I am not an native speaker of English.
Could you tell me what "Cancel" mean?
What difference is there between "Draw" and "Cancel" ?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
25 Jun 13 UTC
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A Question For My Not-So-Christian Chums
Are you tired of religion threads too?
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MeepMeep (100 D)
08 Jun 13 UTC
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I have two questions to ask.
1. If I don't like a player and don't want to pause the game per that person's request, can the Mod pauses the game for that person?

2. If a person does not want to work and I don't want to give the person's my spare changes, can the government tax me then give the other person some welfare?
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jcbryan97 (134 D)
19 May 13 UTC
New Gunboat Series
Not a tournament and no special rules. 36hr phases to avoid NMRs, but ready-up ASAP. 5 pt WTA games. I'll join as many as my points will allow. Last series was fun and hopefully this will be too. Anyone interested?
157 replies
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SYnapse (0 DX)
26 Jun 13 UTC
Kerbal Space Program
Check out this amazing indie space simulator.
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smoky (771 D)
27 Jun 13 UTC
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Premade!
classic live gb-wta in this game England and Germany are playing as premade and talk with each other.
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Laptop Recommendations
I want to buy a new notebook and I think a lot of people here are pretty knowledgeable about this stuff.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Jun 13 UTC
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Porn
Have fun with this one.

http://nesn.com/2013/06/boston-pornography-viewership-skyrocketed-immediately-after-bruins-stanley-cup-loss-photo/
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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
24 Jun 13 UTC
I AM A WEBDIPPER
join my tribe.
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kaner406 (356 D)
26 Jun 13 UTC
Yay!
Go Rudd!!!!
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Jack_Klein (897 D)
25 Jun 13 UTC
Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup
As a Chicagoan, I so rarely get to say this.
Chicago are the champions!
Amazing game.
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