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jbalcorn (429 D)
13 May 15 UTC
Get Off My Lawn!
For Old Timers
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arborinius (173 D)
13 May 15 UTC
RR gated games- minimum requirement or must be greater than?
It says on my profile that my RR is 85%, but I can't seem to join or create games that have an RR requirement of 85%. Anyone know what might be causing this?
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
13 May 15 UTC
Anon FP WTA needs players
A member has asked us to advertise this game: gameID=160531

24 hour turns, WTA, hidden draw votes, full press, 90% Reliability Rating. I believe there may also be good times and A+ allies.
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epiphoneboy2000 (183 D)
13 May 15 UTC
I have a game
Hello fellow diplomacy players I have the American Variant of Diplomacy setup for anyone who wants to join. The title is America! (Shotgun Boom).
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epiphoneboy2000 (183 D)
13 May 15 UTC
American Variant Game
Hey guys i need five more people for my America. variant game. the name: America! (Shotgun Boom)
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
13 May 15 UTC
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I
╔══════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ══════════════╗
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ +1 this if ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
you are a beautiful strong vowel ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~who don’t need no Ghug linguistics ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~
╚══════════════ ೋღღೋ ══════════════╝
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krellin (80 DX)
13 May 15 UTC
Laser Printer
Cheap, reliable, wireless, that won't cost me a &#^%#&^$ fortune in ink. I'm done with #$&#&^%*$@ inkjets.

What's y'all recommend?
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wjessop (100 DX)
13 May 15 UTC
Italy-Austria alliance success
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epiphoneboy2000 (183 D)
13 May 15 UTC
Settings
can you change the setting of a game (Ex. anonymous or not anonymous) that you already created and how
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Sandman99 (95 D)
11 May 15 UTC
My Will
I have decided to share my makeshift legal document involving my possession distribution with you people.
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
12 May 15 UTC
Anyone fancy a cheeky nando's?
Anyone feeling like a cheeky nandos and some topbanter with the lads? Absolute ledge.
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oscarjd74 (100 D)
12 May 15 UTC
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Drive-by shooting
Hey [your name]! You're a [random insult] for [whatever you did or said]. I hope [some horrific event] happens to you. Don't bother talking back to me though, because I'm gonna mute you now.
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
10 May 15 UTC
Games gated by reliability rating?
Is this something people still want? I haven't noticed many people setting games up with RR requirements - or have I just been looking in the wrong place?
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ssorenn (0 DX)
12 May 15 UTC
Chess
Looking for others who want to play on chess.com.

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CoachShack (223 D)
09 May 15 UTC
Support cut by attack
I know that if you attack a occupied territory that is trying to give support move or hold then that support is cut. However, when a single attack with no support on the attack happens and the unit giving support has support from another country/unit shouldn't the support still happen. For instance; Smyrna support move to Con - Armenia support hold Smyrna - Syria move to Smyrna no support. Shouldn't the support to Con stand?
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Octavious (2701 D)
07 May 15 UTC
Election Night!
No, not the vote for the UK's national bird... The other one!
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
08 May 15 UTC
"The commies"?? This isn't 1960.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 May 15 UTC
"If the Libertarians over here in the USA got 12.6% it would be earth-shattering."

No it wouldn't. Wouldn't do a damned thing.
Maniac (189 D(B))
08 May 15 UTC
UKIP second in 120 seats, they are building for the future, wonder how referendum will affect their support.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 May 15 UTC
Demand Instant Runoff Voting/Ranked Choice Voting.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
08 May 15 UTC
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Single Transferable Vote is what we need.
KingCyrus (511 D)
08 May 15 UTC
What if the/we did something with both? Could that work? Both the US and the UK have bicameral houses. What if the House or Reps was FPTP and the Senate was by party? That would give the individual people more control over their own representative, but the nations interests as a whole would be more reflected by senators.
Octavious (2701 D)
08 May 15 UTC
Dear Octavious,

This is not the email I wanted to be writing to you today. I am profoundly sorry for the defeat we suffered, and more grateful than I can express for the support that you have shown me, and our party, throughout this campaign.

I take full responsibility for the result of the election, and that’s why it’s absolutely right that I step down as Labour’s leader today.

Thank you again for everything, and please, keep on fighting too. The course of progress and social justice is never simple or straightforward, and change happens because people like us don’t give up.

Yours,
Ed
Octavious (2701 D)
08 May 15 UTC
A damned shame he couldn't write as well in the actual campaign...
Octavious (2701 D)
08 May 15 UTC
Although I really hate the fake personal touch. It was even worse when his wife was the supposed emailer
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 May 15 UTC
@KC: Slight Constitutional problem: "The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote."

The House is the better place for proportional representation because each state can choose how to apportion its allotment of representatives.

I think that STVIRV/RCV is really the way that things will change for the better. It is used in several places in California, most notably in the city of Oakland where Jean Quan won the 2010 election after starting out in second place after the initial vote.

http://www.acgov.org/rov/rcv/results2010-11-02/rcvresults_2984.htm
KingCyrus (511 D)
08 May 15 UTC
Jeff, in case you forgot... We changed that. A while ago. And it can be done again.
KingCyrus (511 D)
08 May 15 UTC
Amendment XVII

For your perusal JK:

"The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each state shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the state legislatures."

--- 17th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 May 15 UTC
Proportional representation doesn't make sense when electing a single office at a time.
KingCyrus (511 D)
08 May 15 UTC
But only two people to be representative to a diverse state doesn't seem like it would work either.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
08 May 15 UTC
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You're a Labour member who was cheering on a Tory victory, Octavious?
wjessop (100 DX)
08 May 15 UTC
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Dear Will,

I always expected this election to be exceptionally difficult for the Liberal Democrats, given the heavy responsibilities we have had to bear in government in the most challenging of circumstances.

But clearly the results have been immeasurably more crushing and unkind than I could ever have feared.

For that, of course, I must take responsibility and therefore I announce that I will be resigning as leader of the Liberal Democrats.

A leadership election will now take place according to the party’s rules. Our President, Sal Brinton, will be in touch with you later on today with details of that process.

For the last seven years it has been a privilege and an honour to lead a party of the most resilient, courageous and remarkable people.

The Liberal Democrats are a family and I will always be extremely proud of the warmth, good grace and good humour which our political family has shown through the ups and downs of recent years.

I want to thank every member, every campaigner, every councillor and every parliamentarian for the commitment you have shown to our country and to our party.

It is simply heart-breaking to see so many friends and colleagues who have served their constituents so diligently over so many years abruptly lose their seats because of forces entirely beyond their control.

In 2011, after a night of disappointing election results for our party, one of our candidates in Edinburgh, Alex Cole-Hamilton said that if his defeat was part-payment for the ending of child detention then he accepted it with all his heart.

Those words revealed a selfless dignity which is rare in politics but common amongst Liberal Democrats.

We will never know how many lives we changed for the better because we had the courage to step up at a time of crisis.

But we have done something that cannot be undone.

Because there can be no doubt that we leave Government with Britain a far stronger, fairer, greener and more liberal country than it was five years ago.

However unforgiving the judgement has been of the Liberal Democrats in the ballot box, I believe the history books will judge our party kindly for the service we sought to provide to the nation at a time of great economic difficultly and for the policies and values which we brought to bear on government – opportunity, fairness and liberty – which I believe will stand the test of time.

It is no exaggeration to say that in the absence of strong and statesmanlike leadership, Britain’s place in Europe and the world, and the continued existence of our United Kingdom itself, is now in grave jeopardy.

And the cruellest irony of all is that it is exactly at this time that British liberalism – that fine, noble tradition that believes that we are stronger together and weaker apart – is more needed than ever before.

We must keep fighting for it.

That is both the great challenge and the great cause that my successor will have to face.

I will always give my unstinting support to all those who continue to keep the flame of British liberalism alive.

On the morning after the most crushing blow to the Liberal Democrats since our party was founded it is easy to imagine that there is no road back.

But there is because there is no path to a fairer, greener, freer Britain without British liberalism showing the way.

This is a very dark hour for our party but we cannot and will not allow decent liberal values to be extinguished overnight.

Our party will come back. Our party will win again.

It will take patience, resilience and grit. But that is what has built our party before – and will rebuild it again.

Thank you, so much, for everything you have done.

Nick Clegg
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 May 15 UTC
@KC, right, which is why I mentioned that little constitutional obstacle. The Senate has a hard limit of 2 senators per state, normally elected at different times. The mechanism of PR won't yield a diverse result.

If California, for example, selected its 53 House Reps by PR, then there'd almost certainly be a few which represented parties other than Democrats or Republicans. PR is worth exploring but I don't think the Senate is the right place for it.
TrPrado (461 D)
08 May 15 UTC
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I went to bed and woke up to find a Conservative majority government. Congratulations to them and Cameron, and condolences to Maniac for not winning that seat.
yassem (2533 D)
08 May 15 UTC
@Jeff Kuta, what, the fuck, did I, just read...
I hate FPTP so much, it's incredible. But even I see the advantage of voting on a person rather than a party - you can really follow your representative's actions etc. You end up with a two-parties system all the time, the seats don't reflect the voting profile of the nation etc., but there are some advantages.
But then, if you try to use anything else than proportional voting in presidential elections, for example, you lose the huge advantage of final results being somewhat close to the actual voting profile, and instead:
a) are open to a random stuff like in Florida Bush v Gore
b) are open to gerrymandering
WTF is the logic by using anything else than PV in single office elections (except for tradition, which sucks btw)
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 May 15 UTC
@yassem: I'm not sure what your complaint is. ?
arborinius (173 D)
08 May 15 UTC
@yassem: The logic in the powers that be not switching away from FPTP is that many majority governments rely on FPTP to have as many seats that they do- without FPTP, they wouldn't be in power, so why would they get rid of FPTP?
TrPrado (461 D)
08 May 15 UTC
Jeff: Yes, I agree that it would work in the House, but not so well in states like Vermont, Montana, Delaware, North Dakota, and every other state with only one congressional district.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 May 15 UTC
Folks, just to be clear: I'm not the one advocating for PR. That'd be KC. I'm just pointing out that if you want to advocate for PR, the House is the place for it, not the Senate.

I'm totally good with defined district representation with elections conducted by IRV/STV/RCV.
Octavious (2701 D)
08 May 15 UTC
@ Hellenic Riot

Nope, I'm a member of the Conservatives. But Labour send those emails out to anyone.
TrPrado (461 D)
08 May 15 UTC
Oh, well I guess those are ammunition to throw. I'm on your side, Jeff.
Maniac (189 D(B))
08 May 15 UTC
Whilst I obv favour PR based on last nights vote we would end up with a Tory/UKIP govt with 49% of vote that would need support occasionally from DUP, so it isn't the panacea people think it is. I'm aware people may have voted differently under a different system. I still favour PR, I think we should move to PR gradually, first by using it locally then in voting for second chamber when we replace House of Lords.
KingCyrus (511 D)
08 May 15 UTC
Food for thought was all. Not really advocating for anything.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
08 May 15 UTC
So, the Tories got 39% of the vote and control of the government? Am I reading this right? What a sham
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
08 May 15 UTC
Sure, the result is bad either way, Maniac, but it's a hell of a lot fairer under PR. Also, it's very hard to predict what it'd have been under STV because that isn't like the easily-predicted MMS of Germany/Scotland (which I dislike due to party-lists).

I also don't support an elected House of Lords. Two elected chambers just leads to deadlock and filibustering like in America and Italy. Get rid of the bishops and the hereditary peers, but other than that, the House of Lords does a good job.
Maniac (189 D(B))
08 May 15 UTC
If the second chamber has a written constitution to mirror what House of Lords does now and is prevented from stopping bills indefinitely and has to pass monetary bills it could work. Problem with just getting rid of bishops and heritary peers is that it ends up being stuffed with appointed clones if not careful.

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Chumbles (791 D(S))
10 May 15 UTC
Words or uses of words you believe should be eradicated.
I admit it, I hate the misuse of language, or the creation of pseudo-words, especially when a public figure uses it in place of a perfectly functional alternative. I'll start with one that was used recently by a BBC (forsooth!) presenter:
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yassem (2533 D)
10 May 15 UTC
So there's this map...
...that I'm just gonna put here:
http://td-architects.eu/projects/show/walled-world/#txt
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ZS (211 D)
11 May 15 UTC
New game idea
I just randomly thought of this: it may just be me being....me but how is this:
Anonymous (otherwise defeats the point) games where each player plays 2 countries. It could work for maps with an even number of countries. I'm not sure how points and such would work though, maybe just add them. It would add a new way to stab someone lol.
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
11 May 15 UTC
Anon Gunboat advert
A user has asked us to advertise the following 24 hour gunboat: gameID=160250
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wjessop (100 DX)
11 May 15 UTC
Feedback Request on Game
Hi, I was wondering if someone could give me some feedback/advice on the following game please: gameID=160372
I was Austria and in the second half of the game I was really trying to work with Italy to stop Germany winning. But Italy never seemed to get it. Is there something more I could have done in this situation to guarantee a draw?
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
11 May 15 UTC
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Site update: RR requirements at game creation time
It's true. Now you can set RR restrictions when creating a game.
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Eadan (454 D)
11 May 15 UTC
Resignation
How does one "resign" a game? I see that stat on everyone's profile, but I see no mechanism within the game menu that allows me to resign. Can someone explain?
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wjessop (100 DX)
11 May 15 UTC
LIVE REPLACEMENT FRANCE NEEDED
The first 95% RR game has a CD:
A very good position France:
gameID=160372
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LeinadT (146 D)
09 May 15 UTC
Have we discussed the terrorist attack in Garland, Texas yet?
I mean, it's a big deal, right? Right. So I took it upon myself, formerly resident of Texas for over a decade and proponent of free speech, to make the thread.

Discuss away!
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Mapu (362 D)
10 May 15 UTC
Happy Mothers Day
To all the women and mothers who enjoy this fine site.
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wjessop (100 DX)
10 May 15 UTC
LIVE REPLACEMENT ITALY NEEDED
Please join:
gameID=160279
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wjessop (100 DX)
10 May 15 UTC
LIVE REPLACEMENT GERMANY NEEDED
Please join:
gameID=160279
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
10 May 15 UTC
non-live game advertising
Sparked by a different thread, I'd like to make known my disagreement with having non-live games advertised in a single thread.
I don't have the hard data, but I feel like there are less coordinated games, and those that are have their own thread (see abge or ssorenn's games for example)
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TrPrado (461 D)
07 May 15 UTC
Not "Who am I?," or "WHERE am I?," or "What am I?," but When am I?
For reals
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